Thanks...learning when to say no is a valuable lesson :)
Laura
Sergio Vandekier wrote:
> Laura says: "Oh rats! I have to put up with this rude behaviour in Europe,
> and now I discover that I will have to put up with it when I visit B.A. since
> I'll be a foreigner. Of all the codes, the cabace
Laura says: "Oh rats! I have to put up with this rude behaviour in Europe, and
now I discover that I will have to put up with it when I visit B.A. since I'll
be a foreigner. Of all the codes, the cabaceo is the one that makes the most
sense to me across cultures. I use it as much as possible,
Sergio Vandekier wrote:
> 3- Some men may ask foreign ladies for a dance going to her table because
> they have been told that is the custom in their countries.
>They would not impose themselves on any Argentine lady in that fashion
> unless they are very good friends.
Oh rats! I have to pu
1- Cabeceo and other milonga codes are alive and are in use at most milongas in
Buenos Aires. They are not always used at Practicas or in certain specific
milongas.
2- The custom of asking permission to a male companion of a lady to request a
dance from her is always used.
3- Some men may a
On 19/08/2010 22:32, Ruben Malan wrote:
> and milongas
> where everyone is topless.
Believe me, you wouldn't want me to attend
a milonga like that if you were there ;).
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Sergio wrote:
To think that anyone, on this tango-list, that has been a member for
sometime and has been dancing tango for a certain period, in possession
more or less of an average intelligence could believe that in a metropolitan
area like Buenos Aires with a population of about 12 million, ther
"Claiming that just about anything having to do with tango is "oneparticular
way" in Buenos Aires is ludicrous."
I agree.
To think that anyone, on this tango-list, that has been a member for sometime
and has been dancing tango for a certain period,
in possession more or less of an averag
Claiming that just about anything having to do with tango is "one
particular way" in Buenos Aires is ludicrous.
Not that people don't do make that claim. One good ex-pat friend who
lives in Buenos Aires once told me "What they do over at [that place]
is not tango," with which I'm pretty sure my po
Thursday, 19 August 2010 1:06 AM
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> Subject: [Tango-L] Socio-ethical behavior and protocol
>
> This behavior is considered very poor manners. The invitation to dance
> must
> be done with a stare and a nod (cabeceo).
>
> Only poor dance
Vince wrote:
The traditions are generally as Sergio explained them, not just exceptions at
certain milongas, as you have observed. What has happened over the last 10-15
yrs with the advent of nuevo tango, which is more performance oriented, is a
looser protocol about dress and customs and m
Vince Bagusauskas wrote:
From: Vince Bagusauskas
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Socio-ethical behavior and protocol
To: "'Tango-L List'"
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:28 AM
Sergio,
The manners you highlight, must be reserved to certain milongas in BsAs and
for the locals. It was not
in some milongas.
Vince
In Melbourne
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This behavior is considered
Myk says: "Perhaps most, but certainly not all, as is made clear by the
discussion about couples attending milongas separately, pretending not to be in
a relationship, in order to dance with others."
Hi Myk, Argentine couples do not come to the milonga and sit separately,
Only visiting c
Vince says: "Sergio, maybe not all men from your parts approach tango in a
scholarly and with a pureness of the heart way adhering to some mythical
codigo. Someapproach it as a pick-up joint, hitting upon visitors in within a
very shorttime. I have read literature about this "shark" behaviour
Myk says: " Maybe the Argentineans need to make up their minds one way or the
other ".
"There's a serious logical disconnect between these two points. If people
go to tango just for dancing, with no "picking up" involved, then there
would be no reason not to dance with a lady who is romantic
It is obvious that we dance tango for many different reasons.
Tango allows the masculine and feminine roles to be played.
I had the privilege and the pleasure of dancing with Trini many times, so I
know what she is talking about.
I think that we described different milongas. I for one, desc
Although it appears to mean that, milonguero does not "just" mean someone who
spends a lot of time at the milongas. I think that is a definition that many
non-Argentines, especially N. Americans, assume from it's more or less literal
translation. The Argentines I have known over the years I h
--- On Fri, 8/13/10, Charles Roques wrote:
> btw the term milonguero and milonguera are almost never
> used outside of Buenos Aires, or at least shouldn't
> be. They refer to the older longtime dancers who have
> reached a certain status in the clubs there. Never for
> an American or foreigner.
nicetune wrote:
> Recently, I went to a milonga with my ex-girlfriend, (an experienced
> milonguera) in this city in mid Florida. We both knew most of the other
> dancers and they
> were familiar with us and our relationship except for few (3 or 4) new
> guests. That night, I got to dance only
rcgimmi wrote:
It's not a strategy as much as it is a common practice. Often couples arrive
together but split up in two sides. Some milongas are designated for couples
only on certain nights (Gricel has a couples night, or used to) so if you were
to go solo that night, you probably wouldn'
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