Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-12 Thread Bill Burnette
I don't think I stated my point very well. I don't mean an effective grip isn't important- of course a grip that allows you to get good tone, etc. is important. I just think there's a lot of different ways to achieve that. My grip is actually pretty close to the grip you describe Mike, though my fi

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-12 Thread mistertaterbug
Nay, Bill, Nay. The right hand is the hardest part for me. It's where all your emotional content is, your tone of voice, your expressiveness (or lack thereof) is, in my opinion. And I couldn't hold my pick the way some other people do either. There are some pretty ineffective grips out there. I thi

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Robin Gravina
Errr back to front I think. The tip of the thumb points towards my heart. Not a problem, just a provocation! 2010/1/11, Topher Gayle : > Erik, great story, and I think that way too. > > Robin, I dunno. I am sort of surprised it would be a problem. I > haven't run into it before. When you figure it

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Topher Gayle
Erik, great story, and I think that way too. Robin, I dunno. I am sort of surprised it would be a problem. I haven't run into it before. When you figure it out, let use know so we can offer all kinds of advice in the future! The only thing that I can think of is that the tip of your thumb might po

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread erik berry
On the subject of finding your own way, not necessarily directly about pick grip... I used to work in a bakery and the head baker had a helluva time teaching me how to roll out a loaf of dough. No matter how slow he showed me, it didn't make sense. "Whaddya mean just roll it out? Aren't I doing th

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Robin Gravina
It's curved away from the rest of the fingers, mainly in the top phalanx (is that the right word?) 2010/1/11, Topher Gayle : > Robin, > > Interesting question. Not sure what you mean. How is your thumb > curved? Up, down, sideways, in out, or what? > > Glad to hear you got such a useful gene, thou

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Topher Gayle
Bill, You're completely right. But there are some things that seem to work better for most people. I think it's good to try different grips, different picks, different ways of picking and then decide for yourself what's best for you. When I am trying to help a completely new person, I like to giv

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Bill Burnette
I think all this stuff about pick grip is much ado about nothing. Lots of great pickers hold their picks all different ways. I've never thought much about how I hold it- I had to look when this thread started. Seems to me to be an individual comfort thing... there's no way I could hold my pick the

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Topher Gayle
Robin, Interesting question. Not sure what you mean. How is your thumb curved? Up, down, sideways, in out, or what? Glad to hear you got such a useful gene, though. It must come in handy (har har). Topher On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Robin Gravina wrote: > Just a curious question. There

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-11 Thread Robin Gravina
Just a curious question. There are people with straight thumbs, and then those who have been lucky enough to get the gene for brains, charm, good looks and a curved thumb. Curiously enough, I am in the latter group. Do we curved thumbers do it different from our straight digit cousins? Just wonderi

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Linda
I thank yall for the advice and since I have a quiet weekend here I can try em out. The one thing from the article, that I need to try and pay more attention to is .. Mike says its best to learn a tune slow, then after a time speed it up. I do that but feel an enormous pressure to be able to play

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Topher Gayle
Here are some ideas for hitting both strings in a course. Lots of folks have trouble with this at first. If you're not sure if you are hitting both strings, tune one of them quite a bit flat. Then play some sort of exercise on that pair. The worse it sounds, the better you're picking. Try to make

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Dasspunk
When it's going good... real good... I'll blow off everything to keep it going. I try (in vain) to keep THAT in my muscle memory. Make THAT my habit. Mike would probably say he does the same thing but his worst days are still better than my best. He can be annoying in that way ;) Playing back by t

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Linda
I like the idea of the pencil eraser and will think on that some. The Tater says I am only playing the top string of two sometimes. He wants me to use the area just near the bridge more. I find it difficult to push through...push the pick through the strings in that spot. Am working on it. So

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread 14strings
Maybe the mental image of striking both strings with equal force and contemporaneously helps the process of digging in and keeping the pick on the stringS. Many of us have the poor technique (myself included) of catching just one string in a pair. That will give us half the volume and half the tone

Re: Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Dasspunk
Hey Jonas, I personally don't find the "doorknob" description useful. There's not much turning in the wrist per se. And because I am immature, Mike's use of the term "rubbing out" a note makes me giggle (I can't be alone on this can I?). That being said, it is definitely useful. I've been thinkin

Pick grip - Rubbing out the notes - Wrist driven hand motion

2010-01-09 Thread Jonas Mattebo
'Picking' this up from the interview thread... I think I get the notion of 'rubbing out the notes' with the pick as was stated in the Mandolin Cafe interview with MC. I also get the pick grip, and use it. I have also heard that the hand motion when picking the mandolin should be as when turning a