Re: SOT: Use of Smilies (Was: Webmail, that threads correctly)

2005-07-02 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 2/07/2005 22:55 +0300 Avi wrote: Clive, it seems that your position is a bit extreme for me. Well, perhaps I put my case a little too starkly! I don't actually object to the occasional use of smilies at the end of a paragraph or message to indicate mood but I do find it quite offensive

Re: Draft Folder

2005-07-02 Thread David Elliott
Hello MAU, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 10:28:25 PM, you wrote: >> Ok there did this come from. I have now got a [Draft] folder but only on >> one of my accounts. > If it is named [Draft], with the brackets, it is a Virtual Folder and I > wouldn't think it was spontaneously created by TB. I think th

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 2:10:09 PM [GMT -0500], Kevin Amazon wrote: >> - I no longer use the ticker. I may revisit this since I haven't tried >> it in a long time. > I use it. It works fine Really? I just tried it and have to assume that you use it only as an indicator that new messages ha

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 8:38:33 PM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: > do you ever get to negative numbers, such as -7? No. I've managed to get to a -3. :) I see this when I'm browsing and marking messages read when the message count is reasserting itself. Usually, the counter goes to 1

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 8:37:19 PM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: > Why this has to do with the filtering topic is that I have tried using > TB! filters and they only filter at the inbox, and only when one opens > the inbox. Therefore, if one creates filters to move mail at home, > that

Re: Webmail, that threads correctly

2005-07-02 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hi Avi > if you are some kind of switch-hitter Merely a humble button-pusher. > "don't ask, don't tell". If you don't want to tell, I certainly wouldn't dream of imposing on your privacy by asking. ;) >> A fish by any other name would smell as neat. > Now that's really perverted. :-) A trout

Re[2]: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Dwight A Corrin
Hello Allie, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 11:56:55 AM, you wrote: > - I start TB! and there are for example 5 messages in the Inbox. > - I select the Inbox and start reading/deleting mail. > - The Inbox counts do not reflect the changes even though the deleted > messages disappear from the list and

Re[2]: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Dwight A Corrin
Hello Manuel, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 10:52:29 AM, you wrote: >> - I don't filter much with TB! > I filter nothing with TB!, because that's one of the things that brought me > many duplicates... IMAP us good because when I read mail at home and some at the office, and some on the road. It's nic

Re[2]: Selective download, Manual filter only

2005-07-02 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, >> Sorting Office, Selective Download filters, Options pane: >> Use this filter for manual re-filtering only... >> Isnt it a bug? I mean how can someone invoke a Selective download >> filter? And why would he do that? > Bug or overlooked not needed tick box. It is not needed because whe

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 4:40:07 PM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: > Just rename it for a quick test. After some reshuffling around, I managed to make it stick where I want it. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- In mathematics

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 4:40:07 PM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: >> It probably does. But I don't wish to go through another cycle of >> having to delete the file and reconfigure all my shortcuts etc. > Just rename it for a quick test. You're right. It's tbuser.def It's proving to be q

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, July 02, 2005, 5:48 PM, you wrote: < snipped interesting and helpful answers and explanations > > [1] http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php#rethread+messages > Attachments: > 1. Add_Remove_Reference.txt Thank you so very much. This will help me. I have a number o

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, July 2, 2005, at 15:59:15 [UTC-0500] (Saturday, July 2, 2005 22:59 my local time) Mary Bull wrote: >> You can make many things using such trick, e.g., repair threads, use HTML >> templates, modify different parts of message or even substitute or delete >> attachments. > I am very int

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > It probably does. But I don't wish to go through another cycle of having > to delete the file and reconfigure all my shortcuts etc. Just rename it for a quick test. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4

Re: Add address submenu in AB is gone/not working

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello Melanie, > Okay, done! > http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4871 Confirmed and added note to BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current bet

Re: Draft Folder

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello David, > Ok there did this come from. I have now got a [Draft] folder but only on > one of my accounts. If it is named [Draft], with the brackets, it is a Virtual Folder and I wouldn't think it was spontaneously created by TB. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using

Re: Selective download, Manual filter only

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, > Sorting Office, Selective Download filters, Options pane: > Use this filter for manual re-filtering only... > > Isnt it a bug? I mean how can someone invoke a Selective download > filter? And why would he do that? Bug or overlooked not needed tick box. It is not needed because when

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, July 02, 2005, 3:36 PM, you wrote: > You can make many things using such trick, e.g., repair threads, use HTML > templates, modify different parts of message or even substitute or delete > attachments. I am very intrigued. Would it be practical to set this up as a Qui

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, July 2, 2005, at 19:25:26 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, July 2, 2005 19:25 my local time) Roelof Otten wrote: RO>> According to RFC2822 (and that's the law concerning e-mails) a message RO>> should contain the sender's address in the From header and when that's RO>> not the case the Resent-Fr

SOT: Use of Smilies (Was: Webmail, that threads correctly)

2005-07-02 Thread Avi Yashar
On 7/2/05, Clive Taylor wrote: > PLEASE join my club. Acronym in footer. > ... > Clive Taylor CASE > (Campaign Against Smilies in Email) Clive, it seems that your position is a bit extreme for me. I was introduced to smilies along with my first email client, Pegasus Mail. In the well-written and i

Draft Folder

2005-07-02 Thread David Elliott
Hello All, Ok there did this come from. I have now got a [Draft] folder but only on one of my accounts. This is something that I have been asking for since I stared using tb back in version 1.3 something. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin - On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, at 08:23:10 [GMT -0500] (which was 6:23 AM where I live) you wrote: After a long absence, I decided to play with the latest build of TB. To my surprise, it appears to be significantly more robust that any previous r

Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 12:31:30 PM [GMT -0500], Raymund Tump wrote: > Well, no wonder it takes so long. It needs to download all messages to > localhost before exporting. It has to do the same to copy to a local folder, so it should take about the same time. However, the export tends to go

Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Allie! > When doing the export, you'll have to be patient. There's no feedback on > the progress of the export operation. So you think it's not happening or > that it's hung in the process of doing it. However, it's usually > underway and eventually the save dialog appears. Well, no wonder it

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof, On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 18:39:04 +0200GMT (2-7-2005, 18:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO> IMO TB should not allow you to drop the Resent-From header, unless it RO> would be replaced by a Sender header, but that would cause similar RO> problems for you. RO> According to RFC2822 (and

Re: address book AVs

2005-07-02 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Friday, July 1, 2005, at 09:19:51 [UTC-0500] (Friday, July 1, 2005 16:19 my local time) Gary wrote: > I just added a new entry in the AB, and receive cascading AVs. In > addition, both the new and reply templates in the AB would not work at all. > They also would not work for some other old e

Re: address book AVs

2005-07-02 Thread Gary
Hi Alexander, On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:36:19 +0200 UTC (7/1/2005, 1:36 PM -0500 UTC my time), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> addition, both the new and reply templates in the AB would not work at >> all. They also would not work for some other old existing address entries >> that I have. A> I can't co

Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 9:30:17 AM [GMT -0500], Raymund Tump wrote: > I still trying to move my mails from the server folder to a local one. I long since gave up on that method. I export the messages to Unix file and then import them to the local folder. When doing the export, you'll have

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 10:52:29 AM [GMT -0500], Manuel Breitfeld wrote: > What's so curious about your inbox? Why does it differ from other > folders? And what works better with an empty inbox? It's a curious problem. - I start TB! and there are for example 5 messages in the Inbox. - I s

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill, On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:12:31 -0500GMT (2-7-2005, 18:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM> Nothing, but adding a Resent-from line causes filter BM> problems. An example may be helpful. Ah, I see. You're problem is not that TB adds identifying headers, but that they cause filtering p

Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi, as Manuel pointed out, I forgot to attach the picture... So here it is... -- So long folks, Raymund imapfolders.PNG Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDL

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sat 2-Jul-05 2:38am -0500, Roelof Otten wrote: > Hallo Bill, > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:16:46 -0500GMT (2-7-2005, 4:16 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: > BM>> TB! violates this. For example, it adds identifying BM>> headers to outgoing email that can't be changed without BM>> an external tool

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi Allie, On Saturday, 02 Juli 2005 at 3:23 PM you (Allie Martin) wrote: > - I avoid working with large mailboxes, i.e., no more than 4000 messages > per mailbox. This may be even less if I end up having say 5 or more > folders with a large amount of messages. That's right. The same applies for

Re: IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi Raymund, On Saturday, 02 Juli 2005 at 4:30 PM you (Raymund Tump) wrote: > This seems to work with small bunches at once, but that's a bit > annoying if you have to copy 23,869 mails. Yes, no way here. Even with a fast connection at my university (~ 2 MB per second) it hangs. This appears on

IMAP: Move mails to folder

2005-07-02 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello TBBETA, I still trying to move my mails from the server folder to a local one. This seems to work with small bunches at once, but that's a bit annoying if you have to copy 23,869 mails. What happened after I selected all mails (and waited that the message content of some was loaded) and dr

Re: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 2/07/2005 08:23 -0500 Allie wrote: However, with all that, I still somewhat prefer what it's doing now to Mulberry I admire your tenacity, Allie. How much of a bat masochist can you become before you start screaming? As far as I'm concerened TB! has become like a Ming vase - something t

IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all, I've been using TB! IMAP quite comfortably. However, I'm now having an Inbox problem that doesn't seem to affect other mailboxes. I'm therefore considering a workaround. It's then that it struck me that I use a lot of workarounds with TB!. I'll list them here so that others and the develop

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 5:13:58 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: > Yes, weird. I still think it has something to do with tbuser.def. It probably does. But I don't wish to go through another cycle of having to delete the file and reconfigure all my shortcuts etc. -- -= Allie Martin =-

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, July 02, 2005 at 5:06:02 AM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote: > Yes, I always forget that IMAP exists and that things are (may be) > different there. I don't mind singing that odd note here and there for you. :) -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aim

Re: Autoreply filter - possible bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Terry, On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:52:56 +0100GMT (2-7-2005, 13:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> I tested it over here and the message got in my 'sent mail' just fine T> This is an IMAP account. Is yours IMAP or POP3? As it says in my sig: pop3 ;-) Does it matter whether you use in the fi

Re[2]: Autoreply filter - possible bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Terry
Hi Roelof, On 02 July 2005 at 09:29, Roelof wrote: > No common outgoing filters? None at all, either in common or any other account. > Are you using the %Account= macro? I've tested it with and without the %ACCOUNT macro. It doesn't make a difference. > I tested it over here and the message

Re[2]: Add address submenu in AB is gone/not working

2005-07-02 Thread Melanie
Hello Miroslav, am Samstag, 2. Juli 2005 um 12:23 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> since version 3.5(.0).31 the "Add address" submenu is gone or not working. >> (in the window named "Pick e-mail addresses") MF> confirmed. MF> Do you open a BT? I will confirm it. Okay, done! http://www.ritlabs.com/b

Re: Add address submenu in AB is gone/not working

2005-07-02 Thread Avi Yashar
On 7/2/05, Melanie wrote: > since version 3.5(.0).31 the "Add address" submenu is gone or not working. > (in the window named "Pick e-mail addresses") > > If you open the message editor to write a new mail and click on the AB-Icon > to select an address, there was an option to select the additiona

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Peter, > Works just fine here, see attachment. you used the wrong PNG file. For 16x16, you need only the file 'minimal-small.png' instead of 'minimal.png' and naturally the appropriate XML file - see [1]. Is the guidance (readme.txt) unclearly written? -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAI

Re: Add address submenu in AB is gone/not working

2005-07-02 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Melanie, > since version 3.5(.0).31 the "Add address" submenu is gone or not working. > (in the window named "Pick e-mail addresses") confirmed. Do you open a BT? I will confirm it. Something is wrong with your sig delimiter. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu

Re: Editor Toolbar will not go back where I put it

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > Go figure. Yes, weird. I still think it has something to do with tbuser.def. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.36

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > This will not work for an IMAP user since imported messages are imported > to the local cache and not to the actual mailbox. Yes, I always forget that IMAP exists and that things are (may be) different there. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

Add address submenu in AB is gone/not working

2005-07-02 Thread Melanie
Hello tbbeta, since version 3.5(.0).31 the "Add address" submenu is gone or not working. (in the window named "Pick e-mail addresses") If you open the message editor to write a new mail and click on the AB-Icon to select an address, there was an option to select the additional mailaddresses for a

Re: Autoreply filter - possible bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Terry, On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:09:49 +0100GMT (2-7-2005, 10:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> My first guess would be that you've an outgoing filter that moves >> the message somewhere else. T> Brand new account with no other filters. :( Guess I'll open a bug T> report. Thanks for th

Re: Autoreply filter - possible bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Terry
Roelof penned: > My first guess would be that you've an outgoing filter that moves > the message somewhere else. Brand new account with no other filters. :( Guess I'll open a bug report. Thanks for the reply. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.5.36 Pro on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service

Re: another reason for the ability to edit incoming mail

2005-07-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill, On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:16:46 -0500GMT (2-7-2005, 4:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM> TB! violates this. For example, it adds identifying BM> headers to outgoing email that can't be changed without BM> an external tool. What do you consider identifying about Date, Message-ID or