Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Stuart Cuddy, On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, you wrote: JA>> Sure, it makes perfect sense... kinda ;) > You misunderstand. The 5.74 MB was the first screeshot. I waited for > it to finishing syncing with the server, took the screenshot, and then > ran folder maintenance and took the second scree

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Clive Taylor
Hello Keith, > So how's TB! working for you now, with 3.60.02? My main gripe with TB all along has been it's core performance and speed with IMAP making it unusable in the real world. Until this particular beta it's not been unusual to have to wait for a full minute for the message base to sort i

Re: 3.60.02 and BayesIt

2005-08-23 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, Feli. You wrote 20.08.2005 @ 14:31 in using mailer: The Bat! (v3.60.01) Professional FW> I cannot run this new version with BayesIt 0.0.8.1 enabled. As soon as I FW> activate the plugin, TB stops without any notice. The splash screen FW> comes up, I can see for a moment the BayesIt log

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Stuart. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 12:17:44 PM, you wrote: > I am not sure what has happened here, but my IMAP is > actually slower than it was. I keep getting the "no message loaded" > message and it sits and waits until I get it to do something else and > then select the message again.

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Clive. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 12:28:26 AM, you wrote: > I was on the verge of uninstalling TB! from my machines and > concentrating on Mulberry, which I find suits my needs very well. I > might just delay that for a little while though. So how's TB! working for you now, with 3.60.02

Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 6:20:00 PM [GMT -0500], Stuart Cuddy wrote: C>> Do you run the 'check integrity/repair' option as well? > I was doing it, yes. C>> If so, then try running maintenance without it. > Tried it and it worked without the error. Then tried it again with the > option and

Re[2]: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2005 6:54 PM Hi Vili, On 8/23/2005 Vili wrote: V> Compression at exit: NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use that. Make manual V> compressions. :((( You scare me Vili. I have been using compression on exit for POP accounts for some years and have been very pleased. What are your

Re[2]: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Curtis, A reminder of what Curtis typed on: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 17:46:11 GMT -0500 C> Do you run the 'check integrity/repair' option as well? I was doing it, yes. C> If so, then try running maintenance without it. Tried it and it worked without the error. Then tried it again

IMAP Logging

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbbeta, Has anyone tried logging using the new protocol logging in your account settings. I just tried using my fastmail IMAP account and received the following in the IMAP log file: *** Session started : 8/23/2005 4:21:15 PM,

Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, at 02:33 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > I have been experimenting with my IMAP accounts. I just renamed all > my .tbb and .tbi files so that my messages in TB would be rebuilt > from the server. > I then ran folder maintenance on the newly created folders with the > sizes

Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, at 03:49 PM, Vili wrote: > This compression thing is still buggy. I just had a user yesterday, > who lost his mails. "Corrupted inbox. Would you like to fix it?" And > TB! trimmed away half of his emails after answering yes. Is your problem with compression or with re

Re[2]: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Jonathan, A reminder of what Jonathan Angliss typed on: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 16:23:55 GMT -0500 JA> Sure, it makes perfect sense... kinda ;) Okay, you said you renamed JA> the .tbi/.tbb files. That means TB's cache from the server is JA> nonexistent. Chances are, you opened the f

Re[2]: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 16:49:43 GMT -0400 >> Notice the difference in size in The Bat folder. 28 KB vs 5.74 MB . V> The size of 1408 mail is rather 5.74 MB. Not 28 kB (20 byte/mail? :)). I think I see what is happening now. When I ran folder

Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Stuart Cuddy, On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, you wrote: > I have been experimenting with my IMAP accounts. I just renamed all > my .tbb and .tbi files so that my messages in TB would be rebuilt > from the server. > I then ran folder maintenance on the newly created folders with the > sizes of th

Re: IMAP - File sizes

2005-08-23 Thread Vili
Hello Stuart, > I then ran folder maintenance on the newly created folders with the > sizes of the folders as noted in screenshot001. After running folder > maintenance I launched folder maintenance again and took > screenshot002. > Notice the difference in size in The Bat folder. 28 KB vs 5.74 MB

Re[3]: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stuart, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 1:17:44 PM, you wrote: SC> Confirmed. I am not sure what has happened here, but my IMAP is SC> actually slower than it was. I keep getting the "no message loaded" SC> message and it sits and waits until I get it to do something else and SC> then select the m

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Keith Russell & everyone else, on 23-Aug-2005 at 20:28 you (Keith Russell) wrote: > No, I mean two messages with the subject "Wahoo! I'm back", which I > typed and sent separately, and both of which eventually showed up in both > Sent Mail and in my TBBETA folder. I'm glad you only got

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Marck. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 12:31:52 PM, you wrote: KR>> 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing KR>> threads? I don't see them anywhere! > These are as they ever were - -, -, > - And what if I wanted to change them? -- Keith Russell ...When a New Yorker l

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2005-08-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 12:54 -0600 (23-Aug 19:54 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: KR>>> 2. Where do I find the shortcuts for expanding and collapsing KR>>> threads? I don't see them anywhere! >> These are as they ever were - -, -, >> - KR> And what if I wan

Re[2]: Menu items have disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Marek, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 9:25:24 AM, you wrote: >> This customise system still seems to be flaky. MM> I had this problem already, developers know about this and it should MM> be fixed soon. Was looking in some of the files found in my IMAP mailbox and when I came back into TB all

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2005-08-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 12:24 -0600 (23-Aug 19:24 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: KR> 1. How does one find existing keyboard assignments? I can think KR> of three ways: wading through the Customize dialog, digging into KR> tbuser.def, and just entering a keyb

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Curtis. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 4:45:52 AM, you wrote: > It likely was never sent and hence the absence of the duplicate. But it was there later >> So I typed the message in again and hit Send. Several minutes later, >> as far as I could tell, neither message existed. Eventually

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Thanks a lot for clearing this up, Marck. > They have been usurped by the new king ... "Customise...". All menus > and toolbars can now be customised and shortcuts are assigned that > way. Sadly, old redefinitions have been completely discarded in the > changed method. That isn't a big problem fo

Re[2]: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Keith, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 1:12:17 PM, you wrote: KR> Thanks. It really is interesting to see how differently it KR> performs for different users, and how dramatically different are KR> the consequences of any changes. Confirmed. I am not sure what has happened here, but my IMAP is ac

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Curtis. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 4:42:52 AM, you wrote: > IMAP is behaving about the same for me as for the last several releases. > But I'm happy to see that things have improved dramatically for those > who still found it unusable. :) Thanks. It really is interesting to see how diff

Re: The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available

2005-08-23 Thread Bernd Distler
Just now (on 08/23/2005 at 12:54) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BD>> RegEx still doesn't work right :-( > Could you confirm fix of it in 3.60.02? Yes it is fixed. Seems to work :-) -- Adios, Bernd An excerpt from Jim Hankinson: "Philosophy is concerned with the undermining and questioning of dogma

Re: Editor not remembering repositioning of attachment bar.

2005-08-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Curtis, On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:00:58 -0500 GMT (23/08/2005, 18:00 +0700 GMT), Curtis wrote: C> Since introducing configurable positioning of the attachment bar, I've C> not been able to make my configuration of its position and thickness C> stick between uses of the editor. Each time the at

Re: Menu items have disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, August 22, 2005, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > Has anyone else experienced this. (see attached screenshot) > It may have been after I made a change to a Hidden menu item, not in > the displayed menu, but in the View menu. > None of the missing items have hidden checked, but they all

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 6:25 AM, you wrote: > Thanks for consulting with me. I'm going to install the 3.60.01 rar > over 3.60.02 and see what happens. So, I did that. Header Details showed in the Message Dispatcher. Then I decided to double-check whether the install of 3.60.02 w

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Paul! On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 6:43 AM, you wrote: > I am impressed with this version except for the glyphs. With my aging > eyesight it is almost impossible to see if I have replied to a > message. I wish it had the old v.1 envelope system and the yellow > folder icons. They were so ea

Re[2]: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/23/2005 7:35 AM Hi Mary, On 8/23/2005 Mary Bull wrote: MB> I'm pretty sure it's some glitchy thing local to me, now. As you can see below, I have finally moved away from 3.0.2.10! I installed this version yesterday with a clean install. (didn't clean registry though) and the dispatcher works

Re: Format menu in Micro-Ed

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Curtis, On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 you wrote in C> It's quite easy to enable and check. Open the editor and hit Alt-O-F-T. C> :) It toggles on the HTML editor for only that session. Yes but I was too stupidly lazy to check the HTML editor before I removed everything. My fault completely. C> So,

Re: Format menu in Micro-Ed

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 6:12:53 AM [GMT -0500], Richard Wakeford wrote: > Dunno 'cos I never enabled the HTML editor It's quite easy to enable and check. Open the editor and hit Alt-O-F-T. :) It toggles on the HTML editor for only that session. C>> You specifically removed the 'A' from th

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 6:18 AM, you wrote: >>> Working fine here. Are you sure you have 'Header autoview' selected? >> Yes. It is on and the Details pane below the double blue horizontal >> line is visible. >> But no headers are shown. The pane is empty. > May be a stupid quest

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, >> Working fine here. Are you sure you have 'Header autoview' selected? > > Yes. It is on and the Details pane below the double blue horizontal > line is visible. > > But no headers are shown. The pane is empty. May be a stupid question but, are you selecting any message? > This was

Re: Format menu in Micro-Ed

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 2:06:42 AM [GMT -0500], Richard Wakeford wrote: > I have the format toolbar permanently on display in my message editor > and, with all versions prior to this one, all that was shown was the > text alignment icons. Now there is a greyed out "A" icon to the left > wit

Re: [Search] What's new in 3.60?

2005-08-23 Thread 9Val
Hi Marek, MM> doesn't work - I have decrypted one of messages, copied text from it, MM> then opened Finde, marked this option, entered this string and started MM> searching - no message found. BTW searching was finished too fast, I MM> am not sure, if there message decrypted. Could anyone check

Re: [Search] What's new in 3.60?

2005-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 9Val wrote: MM>> doesn't work - I have decrypted one of messages, copied text from it, MM>> then opened Finde, marked this option, entered this string and started MM>> searching - no message found. BTW searching was finished too fast, I MM>> am not sure, if the

Re: Format menu in Micro-Ed

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Curtis, On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 you wrote in C> A whole raft of stuff? Are you referring to all those other formatting C> options that appear when you enable the HTML editor? Dunno 'cos I never enabled the HTML editor C> That 'A' is for text colour and I'm not sure why it's visible when C> M

Re: [Search] What's new in 3.60?

2005-08-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 9Val wrote: MM>> yes, scrollbar, I wrote it too fast to check it yet. > Isn't it fixed in 3.60.02? yes, thanks. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build

Re: Editor not remembering repositioning of attachment bar.

2005-08-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Curtis! On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 6:00 AM, you wrote: > Since introducing configurable positioning of the attachment bar, I've > not been able to make my configuration of its position and thickness > stick between uses of the editor. Each time the attachment bar is opened > on addition o

Editor not remembering repositioning of attachment bar.

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
Hi all, Since introducing configurable positioning of the attachment bar, I've not been able to make my configuration of its position and thickness stick between uses of the editor. Each time the attachment bar is opened on addition of an attachment, it opens in the default configuration. -- -

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 4:52 AM, you wrote: >> Is this empty details pane in the Message Dispatcher happening to >> anyone else? > Working fine here. Are you sure you have 'Header autoview' selected? Yes. It is on and the Details pane below the double blue horizontal line is vis

Re: The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available

2005-08-23 Thread 9Val
Hi Bernd, BD> RegEx still doesn't work right :-( Could you confirm fix of it in 3.60.02? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silv

Re: [Search] What's new in 3.60?

2005-08-23 Thread 9Val
Hi Marek, MM> yes, scrollbar, I wrote it too fast to check it yet. Isn't it fixed in 3.60.02? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 1:43:04 AM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: > Sorry about the duplicate post. It appears there are still some > glitches to be ironed out Unless the listserv got rid of it, I haven't seen a duplicate post from you. > I wrote the message, then minimized it (or

Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available

2005-08-23 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter, PF> Has it been reported that the text in the headers pane is now flushed PF> left instead of flushed right as in previous versions? Yes, and it is fixed now -- 9Val

Re: Wahoo! I'm back....

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005 at 1:00:09 AM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: > Then, couple of days ago, I started reading raves about IMAP > performance in 3.60.02, so I decided to try AGAIN and installed the > new beta on Saturday. (Still hadn't ever been able to give this > addiction up!) I've b

Back after a long absence

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Hemming
Not me but my mail ticker. Go figure. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. What's the definition of a will? (It's a dead giveaway.) pgpWdWSyb

Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available

2005-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello Michael, > Filters act quite crazy here. Sometimes filters apply automaticaly > like they should. Sometimes I can motivate them to apply by > refiltering and in some cases even this doesn't work and I have to > move mails manually to the destination folders. No problem with filters here so

Re: Details info in Message Dispatcher has disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > Is this empty details pane in the Message Dispatcher happening to > anyone else? Working fine here. Are you sure you have 'Header autoview' selected? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2005-08-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Keith, @23-Aug-2005, 00:18 -0600 (23-Aug 07:18 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: KR> Can anyone tell me what happened to Edit Shortcuts? I've had so KR> many problems over the past few months that I've never gotten to KR> the shortcuts, and now I cant find

Re: Menu items have disappeared

2005-08-23 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello. SC> Hello tbbeta, SC> Has anyone else experienced this. (see attached screenshot) SC> It may have been after I made a change to a Hidden menu item, not in SC> the displayed menu, but in the View menu. SC> None of the missing items have hidden checked, but they all semm to SC> have an "m

Re: Is the Beta Site down?

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Stuart. On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 1:57:37 AM, you wrote: > I can't get to it? It was up earlier, but does seem to be inaccessible now -- Keith ...Oxymoron: Still Life. Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB.

Is the Beta Site down?

2005-08-23 Thread Stuart Hemming
I can't get to it? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Why does Superman stop bullets with his chest, but ducks when you throw a revolver at him? pgpK8CETdaUaO

Format menu in Micro-Ed

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello, No one else has brought this up so am I the only one seeing it? I have the format toolbar permanently on display in my message editor and, with all versions prior to this one, all that was shown was the text alignment icons. Now there is a greyed out "A" icon to the left with a little sele