Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-13 Thread David Calvarese
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 10:01:31 PM, Bob Riley on TBBETA wrote: Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:53:13 PM, Maxim wrote: Hello Tbbeta, It should fix the problems with OTFE of previous beta, and should work faster than before. But this ALPHA is not yet well tested, please use it

Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-12 Thread David Calvarese
On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 5:56:53 PM, Maxim Masiutin on TBBETA wrote: Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 12:30:28 AM, you wrote: HMdB But when I tried to insert a smiley with the Insert Smiley button I got HMdB messages Canvas does not allow drawing. HMdB The program did not freeze but had to

Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-12 Thread David Calvarese
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:53:59 PM, Gary on TBBETA wrote: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:38:48 -0400 UTC (10/12/2006, 11:38 AM -0500 UTC my time), Gleason Pace wrote: G TB's Imap is looking very good these days. :yes: Not as long as it will not accept SSL certificates that I tell it too.

Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-12 Thread David Calvarese
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 1:21:56 PM, Gary on TBBETA wrote: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:04:51 -0400 UTC (10/12/2006, 12:04 PM -0500 UTC my time), David Calvarese wrote: Not as long as it will not accept SSL certificates that I tell it too. TB! is totally unusable to me currently. D Really

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-28 Thread David Calvarese
The Final Cut wrote: Hello On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 5:03:35 PM You wrote: The reason other players have good HTML support is that these other player also write browsers. They implement their browser into their e-mail product. Do I have anything against TB writing their own

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-28 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 01:23:50 GMT +0100 DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-28 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: DC IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail on multiple DC computers. It's like having 'webmail' features through your email DC client. Multiple folders and everything stored on the remote server. OK, OK, don't rub it in, I'm envious enough :) Not too

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Goncalo Farias wrote: It's really easy then. They could provide us users a way to choose between the HTML internal engine or the IE engine. That way, everyone would be happy! :) Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea.

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Hello Leif, Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod everyone else. I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said before, I agree that bug fixes

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Leif Gregory wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 13:15:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:15 AM where I live) you wrote: DC Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko DC (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea. Immensely accurate observation. None of us that want better HTML

Re: moving folders

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Cees wrote: But seriously: I keep running into things... like, I just changed one account to IMAP. My choice, but... I wanted to change the folder-order. That USED to be possible with the combination of ALT+left mouse button, and then drag but now: nothing happens! I'm

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 27 February 2005 at 21:02:53 GMT +0100 DC I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said DC before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. I know, and you are right

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis. It only appears if the message is html and requires images to be downloaded. You click it, the pretty pictures appear and then it defaults to off for the next message? Actually what we had talked

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Not too long ago my host implemented IMAP. I've never used it before but would like to see what all the fuss is about. Trouble is if I try it with a half working IMAP client I'm afraid it'll put me off of it for life. IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Hello Allie, A Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the A lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about, A wouldn't you? OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat here we come :) None of us want anything like that Tony. Really.

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
Paul Van Noord wrote: I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the problem? Unfortunately, I have at work. We have one vender that forces us to use HTML Email forms. Pain in the ass in my opinion, and it means we have to use a client that's capable of handling them

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
NetVicious wrote: The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of the current mail. And this should be made manually every time. That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's also the default way of operating in Thunderbird). -- Dave Calvarese

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
Mary Bull wrote: The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of the current mail. And this should be made manually every time. That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's also the default way of operating in Thunderbird). I would have no

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
Mary Bull wrote: Umm, no. I'd prefer if the button stay off with no option to force it on. That way, if you want to view the HTML/remote Images you have to click the button for each and every message. Especially since each message is different and you probably don't want it set to ON. :)

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: GF They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best, you GF seem to want a client tailored to your personal needs and tastes! Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all the bugs ironed out before any completely new untested extras are added. I won't disagree

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Paul Van Noord wrote: On 2/25/2005 The Final Cut wrote: TFC 3. peers? show me some and your sources Eudora, OE, Outlook, etc. Eudora MAYBE. Remotely. OE and Outlook no way! -- Dave Calvarese PGP Key Available at http://home.comcast.net/~dhcalva/DavidCalvarese-dh.asc signature.asc

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Paul Van Noord wrote: On 2/25/2005 Richard Wakeford wrote: A 1600x1200 picture reduced to 320x240 for viewing in a newsletter will look worse than the same picture taken at 640x480. Why waste the resources for an inferior product? Then go buy a sub 1 MP camera. I prefer to take better

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Dave Gorman wrote: Paul Van Noord wrote: We're simply talking about building software that will allow the end user options as to how best the software can suit his/her needs. We're talking about letting the end user have the control, instead of the software manufacturer taking on a

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Paul Van Noord wrote: 2/25/2005 2:25 PM Hi David, Conversely, POCO is missing much of TB's functionality and has had perpetual stability issues. I can't recall ever having a stability problem with Poco. Yes, Poco might be missing a lot of the advanced features... But it at least has all

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: And the reason TB is lacking it is because it's taken us years of campaigning to keep it that way. I don't see why your so adamant to get full html support. You keep comparing TB to all these other email clients, if they're that good and do what you want then use one

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: If TB! doesn't do what they want it to do and Poco or Thunderbird does then use that and join the relevant list and you can send html all day long without anyone moaning! Never said I wanted to send HTML email, I'm quite happy with text. I just want to be able to read it

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
DC Because TB! has at least 1 problem with GnuPG that I can't get around. No, it doesn't, you may have a problem but you can get around it. It won't let you select multiple keys to encrypt to with GnuPG. There are ways around it, setting up groups in the gpg.conf file, or using a 3rd party

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Sorry David and that other chap with the illegal copy of TB! but for the sake of a few mouse clicks to get exactly what you want I don't see the point in ruining a perfectly good email program. Oh, I don't mind the double click all that much, it'd be annoying if I had a lot

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: DC but I shouldn't have to. Why? If you need a tool to do a job then why shouldn't you use it if it does what you want it to do? I have a vacuum cleaner that cleans the carpet but I still have to push it up and down... But I shouldn't have to should I? They make

Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread David Calvarese
Tony Boom wrote: Hello David, Plug their self in, recharge themselves, cut the grass, hoover the carpet and then empty their selves as well do they? Wow! need to get me one of those :) Funny you should mention that, there are both Vacums and lawn mowers that do that... DC If TB! would get

Re: Double PGP sig

2005-02-24 Thread David Calvarese
Peter Meyns wrote: Hi all, on Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:18:20 +0100GMT, I wrote a message that was signed twice. I don't know why this occurred. Maybe I should stick to GnuPG, but the newer versions don't work from within TB!... 1.41rc2 works in TB! -- Dave Calvarese PGP Key Available at

Re: Quiet?

2005-02-23 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello David Calvarese everyone else, on 23-Feb-2005 at 00:33 you (David Calvarese) wrote: and the GnuPG support via Enigmail is better than the PGP support in TB! as well Then why's your message signed inline

Re: Priority of IMAP

2005-02-23 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michael Schneider wrote: Any words for this? RITlabs just prefers to code a new GUI but stabalize their product. Sorry, but I'm just mad about RITlabs and their behavior regarding IMAP :-( I'm a tad upset with them too. I've used (and

Re: Quiet?

2005-02-23 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello David Calvarese everyone else, on 23-Feb-2005 at 18:35 you (David Calvarese) wrote: Then why's your message signed inline and not PGP/MIME? :-) Because I prefer inline signing over PGP/MIME. :) Enigmail

Re: Quiet?

2005-02-23 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello David Calvarese everyone else, on 23-Feb-2005 at 19:05 you (David Calvarese) wrote: There is 'Inline HTML'. It's what Outlook Express uses by default. :) You know what I meant. Btw. now I know whats

Re: Quiet?

2005-02-23 Thread David Calvarese
AC Martin wrote: Hi David, On 23/02/2005 01:28 PM, you wrote: I'm working on that... I'm pretty new to Thunderbird and I haven't figured out how to do that yet. :) Other than compatibility, I struggle to think of a meaningful reason for using inline PGP signatures. If you send PGP/MIME

Re: Test from GMail

2005-02-22 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Tony Boom wrote: Hello Gmail, A reminder of what Gmail on TBBETA typed on: 22 February 2005 at 10:41:46 GMT +0100 G OK. If this works I need to work out how to sign using smime. Any G clues anyone? You need to get yourself a

Re: Quiet?

2005-02-22 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Tony Boom wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:03:10 +0100, Dick H wrote: By releasing a program in this embryonic state, there is a chance that it will disappoint a lot of people. Well I've got bored waiting so I'm playing with Poco. Poco's a

Re: TheBat and GMail: POP Question

2005-02-21 Thread David Calvarese
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:51:16 +0100, Martin Schoch wrote: MS Hi list MS Question (perhaps a little bit OT): MS Does somebody use TheBat to fetch the mail from the pop of GMail? MS No chance over here. MS POP Setup: pop.gmail.com MS TLS (secured to dedicated port): 995 MS User: [EMAIL

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-21 Thread David Calvarese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:43:28 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH I've got it working!! Well, *I* haven't; my sysadmin guys opened up SH the relevant holes in the firewall. I haven't had chance to change SH things to try and post via gmail to this

Re: TheBat and GMail: POP Question

2005-02-21 Thread David Calvarese
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 14:02:39 +0100, Martin Schoch wrote: MS Hi Francis MS On Monday, February 21, 2005 1:45:27 PM you wrote: And BTW, and really OT, I have got 50 invitations left (ask for it by private mail) MS Oh, I have an other 50 left ;-) Me too! I've got 50 on my gmail and 50 on

Re: TB! crashing on mail retrieval

2005-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 at 15:12:15 +0100, Krister Ekstrom wrote: KE Hi Bat! folks, KE I fear this has been discussed before, but what happens is this: I try KE retrieving my pop3 mail and i get one message then suddenly, TB! KE closes and i'm out on the desktop again. I don't know if there's any KE

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-16 Thread David Calvarese
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 at 09:12:24 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC Another possibility, if a giant PITA, is to leave TB running on his DC home machine and using remote desktop to connect to it to do his email DC and things. SH Dial up access only at home. Can you say phone bill? Ahhh. That crimps

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:32:37 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 AY Not a bad point, Kevin. Stuart, you could probably use the Gmail SMTP SH SMTP is blocked by the firewall. Gmail SMTP uses SSL ports, not standard ones. Do you know if that is

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:17:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 AM I have this sneaky feeling that Stuart's company sysadmins know about AM me and what I've been doing with his messages to the list. SH Do you think they're watching us now? Spooky!

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:55:29 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 DC In Gmail's case, SMTP is on port 465 and POP is DC on 995, but dedicated SSL ports. SH I tried those settings on a new TB! account with no luck. Ah well, it was worth a shot

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:22:14 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SH Hash: SHA1 DC Ah well, it was worth a shot anyway. Be sure you have 'Secure to DC Dedicated Port (TLS)' selected. SH Done that. It occurs to me that I've guessed the name of the SMTP/POP SH

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:35:48 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: AY No, it's pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com. SH sighTried that. Cannot connect to server/sigh Well, it was worth a shot... Did you enable pop access via the gmail website like I mentioned? Any possibility of running a local smtp

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:47:29 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote: Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I recall seeing a few free ones around someplace. AY If I am not mistaken, just about every lousy worm and spyware in AY circulation these days has its own SMTP server.

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:48:55 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I DC recall seeing a few free ones around someplace. SH I'd still have to get the mail out, wouldn't I? Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:08:50 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: AY FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email except receiving and sending AY messages to the tbbeta list. SH I haven't given up yet. I'm trying bribery on one of the sysadmins. If SH that doesn't work then I'll stick with what I've got.

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:45:49 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:32:46 +0100, MAU wrote: AM Good catch. :) Let's hope the filter works better, now that I've AM adjusted it. Let's see, shall we... M Like others have said, please take no offence in what I am going to say. M I have been following this sub-thread about your excessively

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:54:24 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from using an DC SMTP server other than theirs that using a local SMTP on my machine DC worked. Some ISPs even do that to you. SH Well I've tried that here to no avail. Looks

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:53:44 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH As I'm going through a firewall here I'm not sure how I'd set this up SH to find a DNS to point this software at. You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the information for your network connection. -- Best

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:22:46 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the DC information for your network connection. SH Can you say DHCP? 8-) SH Nothing set up here at all. It's all managed by those fiendishly SH clever bods upstairs. But the

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:27:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: DC rss2pop3 and UMX in SH Good, aren't they. The jury is still out on RSS2pop3... I think maybe firefox does a better job with it's 'live bookmarks' feature. I'm not sure what to make of UMX though. -- Best regards, David Using

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:39:04 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on 15-Feb-2005 at 15:42 you (David Calvarese) wrote: Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I recall seeing a few free ones around someplace. ASK What difference would it make? SMTP talks

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:45:52 +, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH Got the details, set 'em up. Tried to send myself a message both at SH work and on GMail and both times the free smtp server told me I was SH trying to send to an invalid recipient. Hrm. Not sure then. I've never used that

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:53:54 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on 15-Feb-2005 at 17:28 you (David Calvarese) wrote: But the DHCP server should be telling your machine what the DNS is... ASK In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server will be ASK local machine. Our lan

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 11:10:44 -0800, John Sherman wrote: SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the server). JS Actually Stuart, the SMTP

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:31:41 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote: SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the server). JS Actually Stuart, the SMTP

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:44:19 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote: Think we should move this to one of the other lists since this doesn't really concern any Beta version? AY Maybe. But then why stop a process where someone is getting immediate AY help for a problem that indirectly affects everyone on

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-15 Thread David Calvarese
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 22:10:51 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote: One alternative is to set up a remailer though. He sends a message containing his message to a remailer and the remailer sends it on sans the appended company sig. AY I believe that this is essentially the service that Allie is AY

Re: the next beta ? when ?

2005-02-13 Thread David Calvarese
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 at 17:46:14 +, Tony Boom wrote: TB Hello Claude, TB A reminder of what Claude Renaud on TBBETA typed on: TB 12 February 2005 at 17:20:30 GMT +0100 CR the next beta ? when ? TB 29th February, late afternoon. Now you all know, can you all stop asking and let TB us

Re: 3.0.2.11 beta download?

2005-02-13 Thread David Calvarese
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 at 22:51:20 +0300, Vadim Yavorsky wrote: VY Good evening, VY Sunday, February 13, 2005, 10:47:00 PM, you wrote: T the latest beta is 3.0.2.11, but I can't find a link for it. Did T search the archives but no luck. Last link I could find posted there T was to 3.0.2.10 and

Re[3]: The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 is now available

2004-03-10 Thread David Calvarese
Hello drifthat, Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 1:02:33 PM, you wrote: d Hello Zeynel, d Thursday, March 11, 2004, 1:25:39 AM, you wrote: ZA? Bug report: ZA? Please double click a word in message viewer. It can't select word ZA? properly. ZA? I am using XP SP1. d Confirm here. d win2k adv server

Re[2]: Pre-release version of Avast plugin for The Bat!

2003-11-26 Thread David Calvarese
Hello Tony, Sunday, November 23, 2003, 3:55:32 PM, you wrote: TB Hello Paul, TB A reminder of what Paul Cartwright typed on: TB 23 November 2003 at 15:26:12 GMT -0500 PC I'm not ready to get a DVD burner yet, I don't think they have PC the standards down yet. TB Which is why I bought one

Re[2]: anti spam software for The Bat: SpamPal

2003-02-19 Thread David Calvarese
Hello Richard, Wednesday , February 19, 2003, 7:13:14 PM, you wrote: RMN Hello David, RMN On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 7:03:19 PM, you wrote: D Yeah, I've heard about that. All of fastmail.fm seems to be D set that way. They're trying to get something done about it. RMN And then all of

Re[2]: Difficult to Learn?

2001-01-04 Thread David Calvarese
Hello Leslie, Thursday, January 04, 2001, 6:14:40 PM, you wrote: LC Interesting comments... Below are samples of some of the comments I am beginning to read on different Mailing Lists I belong to. It seems the word is out that TB! is a difficult Program to learn, and that the Help File is