On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 10:01:31 PM, Bob Riley on TBBETA wrote:
Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:53:13 PM, Maxim wrote:
Hello Tbbeta,
It should fix the problems with OTFE of previous beta, and should work
faster than before.
But this ALPHA is not yet well tested, please use it
On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 5:56:53 PM, Maxim Masiutin on TBBETA wrote:
Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 12:30:28 AM, you wrote:
HMdB But when I tried to insert a smiley with the Insert Smiley button I got
HMdB messages Canvas does not allow drawing.
HMdB The program did not freeze but had to
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:53:59 PM, Gary on TBBETA wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:38:48 -0400 UTC (10/12/2006, 11:38 AM -0500 UTC my
time), Gleason Pace wrote:
G TB's Imap is looking very good these days. :yes:
Not as long as it will not accept SSL certificates that I tell it too.
On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 1:21:56 PM, Gary on TBBETA wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:04:51 -0400 UTC (10/12/2006, 12:04 PM -0500 UTC my
time), David Calvarese wrote:
Not as long as it will not accept SSL certificates that I tell it too. TB!
is totally unusable to me currently.
D Really
The Final Cut wrote:
Hello
On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 5:03:35 PM
You wrote:
The reason other players have good HTML support is that these
other player also write browsers. They implement their browser into
their e-mail product. Do I have anything against TB writing their
own
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello David,
A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on:
28 February 2005 at 01:23:50 GMT +0100
DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable
DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download
DC feature
Tony Boom wrote:
DC IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail on multiple
DC computers. It's like having 'webmail' features through your email
DC client. Multiple folders and everything stored on the remote server.
OK, OK, don't rub it in, I'm envious enough :)
Not too
Goncalo Farias wrote:
It's really easy then. They could provide us users a way to choose
between the HTML internal engine or the IE engine. That way, everyone
would be happy! :)
Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko (From
Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea.
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Leif,
Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat
before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod
everyone else.
I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said
before, I agree that bug fixes
Leif Gregory wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 13:15:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:15 AM where
I live) you wrote:
DC Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole? Gecko
DC (From Firefox/Mozilla) would be a better idea.
Immensely accurate observation.
None of us that want better HTML
Cees wrote:
But seriously: I keep running into things... like, I just changed one
account to IMAP. My choice, but... I wanted to change the folder-order.
That USED to be possible with the combination of ALT+left mouse button, and
then drag but now: nothing happens!
I'm
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello David,
A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on:
27 February 2005 at 21:02:53 GMT +0100
DC I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said
DC before, I agree that bug fixes should come first.
I know, and you are right
Tony Boom wrote:
How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis.
It only appears if the message is html and requires images to be
downloaded. You click it, the pretty pictures appear and then it defaults
to off for the next message?
Actually what we had talked
Tony Boom wrote:
Not too long ago my host implemented IMAP. I've never used it before but
would like to see what all the fuss is about. Trouble is if I try it
with a half working IMAP client I'm afraid it'll put me off of it for
life.
IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Allie,
A Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the
A lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about,
A wouldn't you?
OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat here we come :)
None of us want anything like that Tony. Really.
Paul Van Noord wrote:
I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the
problem?
Unfortunately, I have at work. We have one vender that forces us to use
HTML Email forms. Pain in the ass in my opinion, and it means we have
to use a client that's capable of handling them
NetVicious wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default way of operating in Thunderbird).
--
Dave Calvarese
Mary Bull wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default way of operating in Thunderbird).
I would have no
Mary Bull wrote:
Umm, no. I'd prefer if the button stay off with no option to force it
on. That way, if you want to view the HTML/remote Images you have to
click the button for each and every message. Especially since each
message is different and you probably don't want it set to ON. :)
Tony Boom wrote:
GF They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best, you
GF seem to want a client tailored to your personal needs and tastes!
Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all the bugs ironed out before any
completely new untested extras are added.
I won't disagree
Paul Van Noord wrote:
On 2/25/2005 The Final Cut wrote:
TFC 3. peers? show me some and your sources
Eudora, OE, Outlook, etc.
Eudora MAYBE. Remotely. OE and Outlook no way!
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Dave Calvarese
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Paul Van Noord wrote:
On 2/25/2005 Richard Wakeford wrote:
A 1600x1200 picture reduced to 320x240 for viewing in a newsletter
will look worse than the same picture taken at 640x480. Why waste the
resources for an inferior product?
Then go buy a sub 1 MP camera. I prefer to take better
Dave Gorman wrote:
Paul Van Noord wrote:
We're simply talking about building software that will allow the end
user options as to how best the software can suit his/her needs. We're
talking about letting the end user have the control, instead of the
software manufacturer taking on a
Paul Van Noord wrote:
2/25/2005 2:25 PM
Hi David,
Conversely, POCO is missing much of TB's functionality and has had
perpetual stability issues.
I can't recall ever having a stability problem with Poco. Yes, Poco
might be missing a lot of the advanced features... But it at least has
all
Tony Boom wrote:
And the reason TB is lacking it is because it's taken us years of
campaigning to keep it that way.
I don't see why your so adamant to get full html support. You keep
comparing TB to all these other email clients, if they're that good and do
what you want then use one
Tony Boom wrote:
If TB! doesn't do what they want it to do and Poco or Thunderbird does then
use that and join the relevant list and you can send html all day long
without anyone moaning!
Never said I wanted to send HTML email, I'm quite happy with text. I
just want to be able to read it
DC Because TB! has at least 1 problem with GnuPG that I can't get around.
No, it doesn't, you may have a problem but you can get around it.
It won't let you select multiple keys to encrypt to with GnuPG. There
are ways around it, setting up groups in the gpg.conf file, or using a
3rd party
Tony Boom wrote:
Sorry David and that other chap with the illegal copy of TB! but for the
sake of a few mouse clicks to get exactly what you want I don't see the
point in ruining a perfectly good email program.
Oh, I don't mind the double click all that much, it'd be annoying if I
had a lot
Tony Boom wrote:
DC but I shouldn't have to.
Why? If you need a tool to do a job then why shouldn't you use it if it
does what you want it to do?
I have a vacuum cleaner that cleans the carpet but I still have to push it
up and down... But I shouldn't have to should I?
They make
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello David,
Plug their self in, recharge themselves, cut the grass, hoover the carpet
and then empty their selves as well do they? Wow! need to get me one of
those :)
Funny you should mention that, there are both Vacums and lawn mowers
that do that...
DC If TB! would get
Peter Meyns wrote:
Hi all,
on Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:18:20 +0100GMT, I wrote a message that was
signed twice.
I don't know why this occurred. Maybe I should stick to GnuPG, but
the newer versions don't work from within TB!...
1.41rc2 works in TB!
--
Dave Calvarese
PGP Key Available at
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Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Hello David Calvarese everyone else,
on 23-Feb-2005 at 00:33 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
and the GnuPG support via Enigmail is better than the PGP support in TB!
as well
Then why's your message signed inline
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Michael Schneider wrote:
Any words for this?
RITlabs just prefers to code a new GUI but stabalize their product.
Sorry, but I'm just mad about RITlabs and their behavior regarding IMAP :-(
I'm a tad upset with them too. I've used (and
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Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Hello David Calvarese everyone else,
on 23-Feb-2005 at 18:35 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
Then why's your message signed inline and not PGP/MIME? :-)
Because I prefer inline signing over PGP/MIME. :) Enigmail
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Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Hello David Calvarese everyone else,
on 23-Feb-2005 at 19:05 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
There is 'Inline HTML'. It's what Outlook Express uses by default. :)
You know what I meant.
Btw. now I know whats
AC Martin wrote:
Hi David,
On 23/02/2005 01:28 PM, you wrote:
I'm working on that... I'm pretty new to Thunderbird and I haven't
figured out how to do that yet. :)
Other than compatibility, I struggle to think of a meaningful reason for
using inline PGP signatures. If you send PGP/MIME
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Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Gmail,
A reminder of what Gmail on TBBETA typed on: 22 February 2005 at
10:41:46 GMT +0100
G OK. If this works I need to work out how to sign using smime. Any
G clues anyone?
You need to get yourself a
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Tony Boom wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:03:10 +0100, Dick H wrote:
By releasing a program in this embryonic state, there is a chance
that it will disappoint a lot of people.
Well I've got bored waiting so I'm playing with Poco.
Poco's a
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:51:16 +0100, Martin Schoch wrote:
MS Hi list
MS Question (perhaps a little bit OT):
MS Does somebody use TheBat to fetch the mail from the pop of GMail?
MS No chance over here.
MS POP Setup: pop.gmail.com
MS TLS (secured to dedicated port): 995
MS User: [EMAIL
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 11:43:28 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
SH I've got it working!! Well, *I* haven't; my sysadmin guys opened up
SH the relevant holes in the firewall. I haven't had chance to change
SH things to try and post via gmail to this
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 14:02:39 +0100, Martin Schoch wrote:
MS Hi Francis
MS On Monday, February 21, 2005 1:45:27 PM you wrote:
And BTW, and really OT, I have got 50 invitations left (ask for it by
private mail)
MS Oh, I have an other 50 left ;-)
Me too! I've got 50 on my gmail and 50 on
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 at 15:12:15 +0100, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
KE Hi Bat! folks,
KE I fear this has been discussed before, but what happens is this: I try
KE retrieving my pop3 mail and i get one message then suddenly, TB!
KE closes and i'm out on the desktop again. I don't know if there's any
KE
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 at 09:12:24 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC Another possibility, if a giant PITA, is to leave TB running on his
DC home machine and using remote desktop to connect to it to do his email
DC and things.
SH Dial up access only at home. Can you say phone bill?
Ahhh. That crimps
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:32:37 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
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AY Not a bad point, Kevin. Stuart, you could probably use the Gmail SMTP
SH SMTP is blocked by the firewall.
Gmail SMTP uses SSL ports, not standard ones. Do you know if that is
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:17:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
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AM I have this sneaky feeling that Stuart's company sysadmins know about
AM me and what I've been doing with his messages to the list.
SH Do you think they're watching us now? Spooky!
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 13:55:29 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
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SH Hash: SHA1
DC In Gmail's case, SMTP is on port 465 and POP is
DC on 995, but dedicated SSL ports.
SH I tried those settings on a new TB! account with no luck.
Ah well, it was worth a shot
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:22:14 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
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DC Ah well, it was worth a shot anyway. Be sure you have 'Secure to
DC Dedicated Port (TLS)' selected.
SH Done that. It occurs to me that I've guessed the name of the SMTP/POP
SH
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:35:48 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
AY No, it's pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com.
SH sighTried that. Cannot connect to server/sigh
Well, it was worth a shot... Did you enable pop access via the gmail
website like I mentioned?
Any possibility of running a local smtp
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:47:29 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
AY If I am not mistaken, just about every lousy worm and spyware in
AY circulation these days has its own SMTP server.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:48:55 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
DC recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
SH I'd still have to get the mail out, wouldn't I?
Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:08:50 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
AY FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email except receiving and sending
AY messages to the tbbeta list.
SH I haven't given up yet. I'm trying bribery on one of the sysadmins. If
SH that doesn't work then I'll stick with what I've got.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:45:49 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com
SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:32:46 +0100, MAU wrote:
AM Good catch. :) Let's hope the filter works better, now that I've
AM adjusted it.
Let's see, shall we...
M Like others have said, please take no offence in what I am going to say.
M I have been following this sub-thread about your excessively
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:54:24 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from using an
DC SMTP server other than theirs that using a local SMTP on my machine
DC worked. Some ISPs even do that to you.
SH Well I've tried that here to no avail.
Looks
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:53:44 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
SH As I'm going through a firewall here I'm not sure how I'd set this up
SH to find a DNS to point this software at.
You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the
information for your network connection.
--
Best
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:22:46 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the
DC information for your network connection.
SH Can you say DHCP? 8-)
SH Nothing set up here at all. It's all managed by those fiendishly
SH clever bods upstairs.
But the
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:27:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC rss2pop3 and UMX in
SH Good, aren't they.
The jury is still out on RSS2pop3... I think maybe firefox does a
better job with it's 'live bookmarks' feature. I'm not sure what to
make of UMX though.
--
Best regards,
David
Using
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:39:04 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK on 15-Feb-2005 at 15:42 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
ASK What difference would it make? SMTP talks
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:45:52 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
SH Got the details, set 'em up. Tried to send myself a message both at
SH work and on GMail and both times the free smtp server told me I was
SH trying to send to an invalid recipient.
Hrm. Not sure then. I've never used that
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:53:54 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK on 15-Feb-2005 at 17:28 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
But the DHCP server should be telling your machine what the DNS is...
ASK In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server will be
ASK local machine.
Our lan
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 11:10:44 -0800, John Sherman wrote:
SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
JS Actually Stuart, the SMTP
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:31:41 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
SH OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
JS Actually Stuart, the SMTP
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:44:19 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
Think we should move this to one of the other lists since this doesn't
really concern any Beta version?
AY Maybe. But then why stop a process where someone is getting immediate
AY help for a problem that indirectly affects everyone on
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 22:10:51 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
One alternative is to set up a remailer though. He sends a
message containing his message to a remailer and the remailer sends it
on sans the appended company sig.
AY I believe that this is essentially the service that Allie is
AY
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 at 17:46:14 +, Tony Boom wrote:
TB Hello Claude,
TB A reminder of what Claude Renaud on TBBETA typed on:
TB 12 February 2005 at 17:20:30 GMT +0100
CR the next beta ? when ?
TB 29th February, late afternoon. Now you all know, can you all stop asking
and let
TB us
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 at 22:51:20 +0300, Vadim Yavorsky wrote:
VY Good evening,
VY Sunday, February 13, 2005, 10:47:00 PM, you wrote:
T the latest beta is 3.0.2.11, but I can't find a link for it. Did
T search the archives but no luck. Last link I could find posted there
T was to 3.0.2.10 and
Hello drifthat,
Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 1:02:33 PM, you wrote:
d Hello Zeynel,
d Thursday, March 11, 2004, 1:25:39 AM, you wrote:
ZA? Bug report:
ZA? Please double click a word in message viewer. It can't select word
ZA? properly.
ZA? I am using XP SP1.
d Confirm here.
d win2k adv server
Hello Tony,
Sunday, November 23, 2003, 3:55:32 PM, you wrote:
TB Hello Paul,
TB A reminder of what Paul Cartwright typed on:
TB 23 November 2003 at 15:26:12 GMT -0500
PC I'm not ready to get a DVD burner yet, I don't think they have
PC the standards down yet.
TB Which is why I bought one
Hello Richard,
Wednesday , February 19, 2003, 7:13:14 PM, you wrote:
RMN Hello David,
RMN On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 7:03:19 PM, you wrote:
D Yeah, I've heard about that. All of fastmail.fm seems to be
D set that way. They're trying to get something done about it.
RMN And then all of
Hello Leslie,
Thursday, January 04, 2001, 6:14:40 PM, you wrote:
LC Interesting comments...
Below are samples of some of the comments I am beginning to read on
different Mailing Lists I belong to. It seems the word is out that TB! is a
difficult Program to learn, and that the Help File is
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