Re[6]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : >> Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative! >> "Mailing List Abuse" - where is the so called abuse? It was a >> PRIVATE EMAIL and nothing to do with the list. I> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of I> the list by (1) not postin

Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse) REQUEST FOR MODERATION

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are RG> Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers I believe you should be responding to Paul Van Noord. Nevertheless, posting the headers demonstrates nothing, I believe. -- Best regards, Gonc

Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse))

2007-08-25 Thread Indie_Dev
Saturday, August 25, 2007, 8:02:25 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Indie_Dev, > On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:47:43 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 1:47, where I live), > you wrote: ID>> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of the > When a thread gets dead horsed, it's closed for everybody. Sor

Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse))

2007-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Indie_Dev, On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:47:43 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 1:47, where I live), you wrote: ID> I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of the When a thread gets dead horsed, it's closed for everybody. Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers a

Re[5]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Indie_Dev
Saturday, August 25, 2007, 6:51:13 PM, you wrote: > In reply to : GP>> The point being that Rit can take full advantage of whatever GP>> useful suggestions that might be made without anybody responding GP>> to what might feel like provocative remarks. Such responses are GP>> unnecessa

Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse))

2007-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Goncalo, On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:39:25 +0100GMT (26-8-2007, 0:39, where I live), you wrote: GF> Thank you for wording my point of view so eloquently. After a message has been moderatied, it's not done to keep on replying to that moderator message. Especially not when it's rather off topic.

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse) REQUEST FOR MODERATION

2007-08-25 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Goncalo On Saturday, August 25, 2007 you wrote: > In reply to >>> His totally unfounded accusations against >>> Ritlabs and CIFNet are Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers Do you work for RItlabs that you can make such a statement on behalf of the company? RG>> How wa

Re[4]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GP> The point being that Rit can take full advantage of whatever GP> useful suggestions that might be made without anybody responding GP> to what might feel like provocative remarks. Such responses are GP> unnecessary, and counterproductive to what we are trying t

Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : >> His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are >> _very_ serious and should not have been tolerated, under _any_ >> circumstances. It seems obvious to me that what is RG> How was it determined that they were unfounded? If you have proof RG> of that t

Re[3]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll" RG>> For the record I do not know "Indie" outside of Ritlabs i.e. we RG>> are not "buddies" PVN> I thank you for taking the time to

Re[3]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Gleason Pace
Paul, RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in this context to mean RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but baits others into it. RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll" The point

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Paul On Saturday, August 25, 2007 you wrote: RG>> to another list or in the forums. Getting RG>> an off list email by someone RG>> trying to hide NEEDS to be addressed. RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in RG>> this context to mean RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but RG

Re[3]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Gleason Pace
Paul, RG>> I had always understood the word "troll" in this context to mean RG>> someone who not only starts trouble but baits others into it. RG>> Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with RG>> your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a "troll" As time

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Rick, > It is the easy and irresponsible way to deem someone a "troll" then > conspire to ignore that person. > > Indie had genuine concerns although some would have been better posted > to another list or in the forums. Getting an off list email by someone > trying to hide NEEDS to be address

Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/25/2007 11:51 AM Hi Rick, On 8/25/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG> It is the easy and irresponsible way to deem someone a "troll" then RG> conspire to ignore that person. RG> Indie had genuine concerns although some would have been better posted RG> to another list or in the forums. Getting an

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Rick Grunwald
>>Garbage In, Gospel Out. > And unlike our physical worlds, all we have to deal with here is words on a > screen. The > effective way to deal with a troll is to not respond to his postings in any > way. Of > course, this does require a certain level of agreement, which can remain > unspoken o

Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Gleason Pace
Goncalo, >Garbage In, Gospel Out. Some of us don't have a gospel to out, but it is true that a lot of what comes in is garbage, and the one thing we have a say in is what comes out. And unlike our physical worlds, all we have to deal with here is words on a screen. The effective way to deal

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Gleason Pace
Roelof, Fate: Protects fools, little children, and echo moderators. Memories of bygone years when there were such things as Fido, BBS's and echos. Apparently they are still alive and well in some places. -- Gleason

Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Please, gag the man. RO> RO> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not RO> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have RO> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Goncalo. RO> )<)))'> RO> Please do not post me

Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Goncalo, On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:23:09 +0100GMT (25-8-2007, 8:23, where I live), you wrote: GF> Please, gag the man. Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't f