Re: Surprise...

1999-11-23 Thread Ian Gore
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 3:07:40 AM, Steve wrote: > And the three letters were... ali. > Since TB! has autocompletion based on name it is, IMHO, very dangerously > and very incorrectly introducing false and misleading data into its own > database. Clearly Ali Martin's address is

Re: Original Message Date and time query

1999-11-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Ali, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 7:41:17 AM GMT+0800, Ali Martin wrote: AM> Isn't the macro for the original message date and time be taken from AM> the Kludges of the message sent ad verbatim? Why is the time AM> converted to my time zone when I'm replying. Wouldn't the recipient AM

Re: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)

1999-11-23 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Christopher, CJT> On Monday, November 22, 1999 Ali Martin wrote: >> Here it is attached for you and all the other new subscribers who >> haven'

Re[3]: %cursor was: Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-11-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Jast, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 6:03:17 AM GMT+0800, Jast wrote: >> That it would. I like the idea of a template definition, just not >> sure if I want to fully endorse another template macro which is >> nothing more than a toggle that is better served, IMHO, by >> checkboxes on the te

Re: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)

1999-11-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Christopher, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 5:14:38 AM GMT+0800, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: >> Here it is attached for you and all the other new subscribers who >> haven't yet gotten a copy. CJT> Unfortunatelly it doesn't say anything about Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L and CJT> Ctrl+Shift+Al

Surprise...

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
And the three letters were... ali. Since TB! has autocompletion based on name it is, IMHO, very dangerously and very incorrectly introducing false and misleading data into its own database. Clearly Ali Martin's address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet that is what my TB! completes to. --

Re: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 4:09:12 PM, Ali wrote: > Again it's all a matter of consistency. Those who complain are used to > the name and the address truly corresponding. They get confused when > they see a name with a discussion list address which is not the true > e-mail address of the person.

Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?

1999-11-23 Thread joshua allen r. day
Tuesday, November 23, 1999 SH> You must take a look the new logo in current beta (1.38 Beta 3), The SH> Bat with christmast cap ...wow... yeah, it's very well done... a beautiful piece of art... joshua http://jarday.com - 1.38 Beta/3 -- -

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Hal
Hello Mogens, Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 4:59:47 PM, you wrote: MH> The smptserver is spelled correctly, and I actually copied/pasted it to MH> Becky from The Bat! MH> Account name and password must be good too since I can receive OK. MH> I can telnet the smtpserver (got a nice goodby messa

Re: MS Exchange

1999-11-23 Thread Hal
Hello Syafril, H>> When I asked for compatibility with MS Exchange I guess I should have H>> mentioned "using MAPI". We don't use company e-mail to access the Internet. I H>> know, Neanderthal, but then I don't make policy. I just muddle through as best I H>> can. SH> Oops, I missundersto

Re: Original Message Date and time query

1999-11-23 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 23 Nov 99, at 18:41, Ali Martin wrote about "Original Message Date and time quer": > Isn't the macro for the original message date and time be taken from > the Kludges of the message sent ad verbatim? Why is the time > converted to my time zone when I'm replying. Wouldn't the

Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?

1999-11-23 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Giamma, On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 6:35:01 (GMT +07:00) you told us: G> for the nostalgics, I`ve found the old 1.19 Christmas version (I G> think, it`s31Dec)at G> ftp://ftp.sympad.net/pub/windows/internet/clients/mail/the_bat/obsol

Re: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: > To me it makes little sense to replace the generated reply name > (albeit in TB's own 'peculiar' styled combination of From: name and > Reply To: address) with a flat list address. But, as you say > Christopher, it is down to the individual. Ag

Original Message Date and time query

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Hi all, Isn't the macro for the original message date and time be taken from the Kludges of the message sent ad verbatim? Why is the time converted to my time zone when I'm replying. Wouldn't the recipient prefer the time as he/she sent it? -- * Ali Martin mailto: <[EMAIL P

Re[2]: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
On 23 November 1999 at 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: >> Don'tusetheautomatic reply address: Fred Huddle >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why not? >> Use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? CJT> This is something one could discuss. Personally, I like to have CJT> "reply-to" with

nostalgic for old Xmas logo?

1999-11-23 Thread Giamma
Ciao , for the nostalgics, I`ve found the old 1.19 Christmas version (I think, it`s 31 Dec) at ftp://ftp.sympad.net/pub/windows/internet/clients/mail/the_bat/obsolete/the_bat.exe.1.19 Maybe U are interested to collect it... -- Ciao! Gian Matteo icq:3946333

Re: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: >>> Delete the message from the Server: checked >> Either you are deleting the message from the server or you're >> downloading the message, sending it to the trash and deleting it. I >> wouldn't try to do both and that's probably where the problem lies. >>

Re: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: > Unfortunatelly it doesn't say anything about Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L and > Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ -- these are the two known unofficial key > combinations. The first one makes TB search mail directory for files > "messages.msb" that might have been lost

Re: question on line styles sening E-mail (Eureka!)

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 2:59:46 PM, Ali wrote: > it is more difficult than it should be, and one can't really do > anything about bad formatting in that situation. Sure. Bitch to the person who sent it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: question on line styles sening E-mail (Eureka!)

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Steve Lamb wrote: > Monday, November 22, 1999, 4:42:14 PM, Paula wrote: >> On Monday, November 22, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: >>> All, that I said earlier stands, in that, a badly formatted message will be >>> badly formatted when you get it and you can't really make it look any >>> better. >>

Re[3]: Mysterious wish-list

1999-11-23 Thread Jast
Morning Pasquale J. Festa Sr., > Well for my wish I like to see a zoom feature, for people (like me) > who have small monitors, or even for people who are vision impaired,( > like Opera has). I believe Windows comes with a Zoom function already. Besides it would bloat the program unnessesa

Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions

1999-11-23 Thread Claudius Regn
Hi, SL>> 2: The PGP interface should not use the default key. Instead TB! should keep SL>> separate KeyIDs for each account and request that KeyID. This is because some SL>> people *cough, myself, cough* have more than one key and use different keys SL>> for different accounts. OS> I second

Re: %cursor was: Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 2:03:17 PM, Jast wrote: > I prefer template macros. They are more versatile (in regard to > usability - you never know what functionality you could add to a > macro) and don't take up window space if you don't use it. Really, I > don't like long option lists. Of cou

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 1:59:47 PM, Mogens wrote: > The smptserver is spelled correctly, and I actually copied/pasted it to > Becky from The Bat! Did you completely delete it? I mean total paranoia delete where you try to delete spaces and stuff of that ilk. Also check your TB! netw

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Mogens, MH> I have since Nov 17 been unable to send mail with The Bat! I have MH> discussed it with my ISP, we have checked all settings and ha

Re[2]: %cursor was: Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-11-23 Thread Jast
Morning Steve Lamb, > That it would. I like the idea of a template definition, just not > sure if I want to fully endorse another template macro which is > nothing more than a toggle that is better served, IMHO, by > checkboxes on the templates. I prefer template macros. They are more versatile

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Mogens Holst
The smptserver is spelled correctly, and I actually copied/pasted it to Becky from The Bat! Account name and password must be good too since I can receive OK. I can telnet the smtpserver (got a nice goodby message from the server when I quit) I have reentered the name. I have deleted the ac

Re: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
On Monday, November 22, 1999 Ali Martin wrote: >> Delete the message from the Server: checked > Either you are deleting the message from the server or you're > downloading the message, sending it to the trash and deleting it. I > wouldn't try to do both and that's probably where the problem l

Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)

1999-11-23 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
On Monday, November 22, 1999 Ali Martin wrote: > Here it is attached for you and all the other new subscribers who > haven't yet gotten a copy. Unfortunatelly it doesn't say anything about Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L and Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ -- these are the two known unofficial key combinatio

Re: The TBUDL

1999-11-23 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
On Monday, November 22, 1999 Hal wrote: > Don't use the automatic reply address: Fred Huddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is something one could discuss. Personally, I like to have "reply-to" with a name. And I find it disturbing when someone has just a TBULD addr

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Mark Worsham
Hi Mogens - Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 1:46:02 PM, you wrote: MH> I have since Nov 17 been unable to send mail with The Bat! I have MH> discussed it with my ISP, we have checked all settings and have run out MH> of ideas. MH> I can receive all right, and it does not matter if the connectio

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 11:46:02 AM, Mogens wrote: > My ISP's supreme tech supporter finally suggested to download Becky > (buh!) and surprise, surprise - no problems. > Any ideas? Reenter the name of the SMTP server. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink

Re: Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, Tuesday, November 23, 1999, You wrote: > I can receive all right, and it does not matter if the connection is > open or not when I request a "send". It does not matter if it is > a combined send/receive or just a send mail alone. The "send" is never > executed and returns the same mess

Can't send mail - but receiving OK

1999-11-23 Thread Mogens Holst
I have since Nov 17 been unable to send mail with The Bat! I have discussed it with my ISP, we have checked all settings and have run out of ideas. I can receive all right, and it does not matter if the connection is open or not when I request a "send". It does not matter if it is a combined

Re: default mailer

1999-11-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
On 23 November 1999 at 17:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: gm> How to use Bat! to send email when i click on Netscape versiion 3 gm> browser mailto: link? I have already set the default mailer to gm> bat! but every address i click netscape use its own email program. gm> TIA You'll find the a

Macros

1999-11-23 Thread Nick Danger
Is there any sort of macro definition/example list or FAQ floating around the web or somebody's hard drive? A lot of them are fairly obvious but a little explanation of some of the more obscure ones sure would be nice. Then again obscurity is totally relative isn't it? -- - Nick Nick D

default mailer

1999-11-23 Thread george michael
How to use Bat! to send email when i click on Netscape versiion 3 browser mailto: link? I have already set the default mailer to bat! but every address i click netscape use its own email program. TIA __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at h

Re: %cursor was: Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, November 22, 1999, 7:26:01 PM, Paula wrote: > I would say that if the user has put a %SkipHeader macro in the > template, then TB shouldn't worry about whether or not there is anything > entered in the header, unless the intent is to allow the %SkipHeader > only if the TO is filled in. I d

Re: %cursor was: Re[2]: (No Subject)

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, November 22, 1999, 6:47:19 PM, Thomas wrote: > OK, so by default the cursor should always go into the header, even if > there is data (TO/Subject/...) already. Unless there is a %SkipHeader > macro. This defines the default as opposite to what I was thinking of, > but I get your point.

Re: question on line styles sening E-mail (Eureka!)

1999-11-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, November 22, 1999, 4:42:14 PM, Paula wrote: > On Monday, November 22, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: >> All, that I said earlier stands, in that, a badly formatted message will be >> badly formatted when you get it and you can't really make it look any >> better. > Yes, no matter what, some mes

Re: (COT) Moo-ah, Met-ah, Med-ah and all (un)related things...

1999-11-23 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 22 Nov 99, at 22:32, Soth wrote about "Re[2]: (SOT) Moo-ah, Met-ah, Med-ah": > > Well, well. AFAIK this summer there was a heated > > discussion in Oxford whether to teach their math students what > > "uniformly continuous function" is or NOT:-))) ROTFLMAO, as > > you say:

Re: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Ali, On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, at 20:27 you wrote: AM>Paula Ford wrote: >> The FAQ is unofficial, too, and on Leif's site. If you send the >> shortcut list to him, perhaps he'll add it to his page. AM> Has Leif mysteriously disappeared again? Nope, I'm here, but for some reason, the

Re[2]: Mysterious wish-list

1999-11-23 Thread Pasquale J. Festa Sr.
Hello Paula, Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 2:02:09 AM, you wrote: PF> On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> can I ask whether the developers have a copy? If yes, maybe they might >> send it to you. Did you ask them? >> If they don't have a copy, what's the point of the wish-l

Re: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: AM>> OK, I could rest it in my little webspace and provide a link in the AM>> future. > That would be more suitable a solution in view of the list rule of "no > attachments" ;-9. What double standard eh? I remember making a stink out of that with tracer. The shortc

Re: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM>> OK, I could rest it in my little webspace and provide a link in the AM>> future. > Hey now, that is very nice of you! Maybe a hint with the URL could > even be hidden somewhere on the Ritlabs page, or on the FAQ page. OK, the list is available for viewing at:

Re[2]: question on line styles sening E-mail (Eureka!)

1999-11-23 Thread Pasquale J. Festa Sr.
Hello Paula, Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 2:11:24 AM, you wrote: PF> On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: >> Hmm still happens to me, does monitor size have a connection, I >> basicly have a 9 inch viewing screen. PF> Monitor size has a connection only to the extent that

Re: Help File (Was: Clicking on a sender w/ alt & bringing back everyone else)

1999-11-23 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Paula Ford, On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 5:29:30 (GMT +07:00) you told us: t> Who volenteers the rewrite the help file (g) Paula I volunteer to beta test the new Help file for v.2. Where do Paula I sign up? t>>> Now obviously there is maybe a person qualified here if he

Re[2]: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
On 23 November 1999 at 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: >> Wouldn't it be neat to include this in the .zip file when people >> download TB from the web site? Or post it on the web site otherwise >> for anyone interested to download? - Just an idea. AM> OK, I could rest it in my little

Re[2]: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
On 23 November 1999 at 11:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: >> The FAQ is unofficial, too, and on Leif's site. If you send the >> shortcut list to him, perhaps he'll add it to his page. AM> Has Leif mysteriously disappeared again? No, he's around. I had a private message from him this mo

Re[2]: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Ali, On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 7:16:40 PM (GMT+0800), Ali Martin wrote: AM> AM>>> Here it is attached for you and all the other new subscribers who AM>>> haven't yet gotten a copy. >> Wouldn't it be neat to include this in the .zip file when people >> download TB from the web site?

Re: tray animation

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Jason Thompson wrote: > Howdy beautiful Bat fans, ;) > This has been bugging me. Is there a way to keep certain messages > (designated by folder perhaps?) from animating the tray icon when > they are unread? My dilemma is: I like the tray icon to animate on > all unread messages _e

Re: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Paula Ford wrote: > The FAQ is unofficial, too, and on Leif's site. If you send the shortcut > list to him, perhaps he'll add it to his page. Has Leif mysteriously disappeared again? -- * Ali Martin mailto: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ** OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to beco

Re: question on line styles sening E-mail (Eureka!)

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM> NB// Alt+L will not work if the cursor is positioned in the AM> text block area with the mouse. You have to position it with AM> the keyboard. > That's not quite correct. I always position the cursor with the > mouse. I have noticed that sometimes - not

Re[2]: Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor)

1999-11-23 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Sunday, November 21, 1999, Jast wrote to Paula Ford about Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor): J> Morning Paula Ford, >> I also never use the Folder View. I think it's reasonable to request >> a some key command that will go to the next new message in the next

Re: Threading

1999-11-23 Thread Ali Martin
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM>> Here it is attached for you and all the other new subscribers who AM>> haven't yet gotten a copy. > Wouldn't it be neat to include this in the .zip file when people > download TB from the web site? Or post it on the web site otherwise > for anyone interested to

tray animation

1999-11-23 Thread Jason Thompson
Howdy beautiful Bat fans, This has been bugging me. Is there a way to keep certain messages (designated by folder perhaps?) from animating the tray icon when they are unread? My dilemma is: I like the tray icon to animate on all unread messages _except_ unread messages from this and th