Good evening Ricardo,
It was foretold that on 19-8-2002 11:45:41 GMT-0300 (which was
16:45:41 where I live) Ricardo M. Reyes spread these wise comments:
RMR well, if the problem now is just a 'loading time problem' then there
RMR must be something different in the DOM implementation of
DH Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so
DH swell! - and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed
DH in Opera than developers tell us.
ACM Yes. It's so swell that it masks the fact that the FAQ page ~100kb
ACM is reloaded each time you try to navigate through
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Hi Ricardo,
@19-Aug-2002, 11:45 -0300 (15:45 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie:
RMR well, if the problem now is just a 'loading time problem' then
RMR there must be something different in the
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Hi Dierk,
@17-Aug-2002, 19:33 +0200 (18:33 UK time) Dierk Haasis [DH] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
DHI haven't been to the FAQ for some time, and visited them today
DH (I was looking for the rogues gallery which
stupidest browser identification*.
No, i have Opera 6.05 idetified as Opera and the Faq works :-)
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Hello Marck!
On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 10:06:06 PM you wrote:
The rogues gallery is plain vanilla HTML They'll work with any
browser. It's just the main How to pages that won't work on Opera,
as will all the ancillary essay (Macros, templates, etc.) pages and
the new Library page.
Hello Luc!
On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 10:14:41 PM you wrote:
No, i have Opera 6.05 idetified as Opera and the Faq works :-)
Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so swell!
- and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed in Opera than
developers tell us
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Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:'
DH Sorry, my fault. It *is* the FAQ that works correctly with Opera
DH 6.05 - in MSIE mode as in Opera mode.
Not quite correctly. Each BrainStorm published document is loaded as
Good evening Dierk,
It was foretold that on 17-8-2002 22:45:19 GMT+0200 (which was
22:45:19 where I live) Dierk Haasis spread these wise comments:
snipped a bit
DH shows me that DOM is far more developed in Opera than developers
DH tell us.
Yep, i believe so. But then again, us
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:'
DH Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so
DH swell! - and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed
DH in Opera than developers tell us.
Yes.
Hello Allie!
On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 11:47:29 PM you wrote:
Browsing the BrainStorm published FAQ's with Opera and a dial-up
connection would be miserable. This is the lack of DOM support that
Marck has been referring to.
Ah, that explains it, with 2 Mbit/s I don't have any probs
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Hi Ottar,
On 07 January 2002 at 06:35:28 +0100 (which was 05:35 where I live)
Ottar Grimstad wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:
... So if you can get rid of this top part that only is
confusing.
There is no top part.
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
... So if you can get rid of this top part that only is
confusing.
There is no top part. There is no code to produce it that way. It
doesn't appear in Mozilla or in IE, only in Opera. Ergo, it is the
lack of correct DOM support in
users and
mailboxes and prevents combining mail download to one area?
Elaine
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From: Ottar Grimstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ETM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: The faq and Opera
Isn't it just as easy to change account names in The Bat
Hello Ottar,
06. januar 2002, 9:58:55, you wrote:
OG But it does not read the faq at
OG http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html very well. Clicking on
OG the = signs does nothing. To whom should I complain, Marck or Opera?
I'd say complain to Marck, as the page doesn't work in
Kär Ottar,
--- Ottar Grimstad / Sonntag, 06.01.2002, 09:58:55
The faq and Opera
I am changing my web-browser to Opera (www.opera.no). I like the interface, it is
quick, it is made in Norway, it is not Microsoft and therefore not so
easily attacked by nimbda and all
Hello Ottar,
6 Jan 2002, 09:58:55, you wrote:
OG To TBUDL,
OG But it does not read the faq at
OG http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html very well.
OG Clicking on the = signs does nothing. To whom should I complain,
OG Marck or Opera?
It's the same with me, using Opera 6.0 -
Hello Eddie,
6 Jan 2002, 10:30:40, you wrote to TBUDL:
EC Under File|Preference (Alt-P) go to 'Network' and at top left you
EC can choose the 'Browser Identification'. If you set it to MSIE 5.0
EC it could work.
It was already set to that by default. I changed it to Opera with no
change in
Hello ETM,
6 Jan 2002, 10:05:06, you wrote to TBUDL:
E some features in OE are mighty nice (including the ability to so
E easily change account names and have all accounts filter to the
E same folders).
Isn't it just as easy to change account names in The Bat?
And filter can filter mail to
Hello Ottar,
6 Jan 2002, 11:20:22, you wrote to TBUDL:
OG But suddenly I discover something: When I scroll down the page,
OG the first section is repeated, but here the click on = works.
OG Strange.
This only happens when I let the browser identify itself as Opera.
When it identifys
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Hi Ottar,
On 06 January 2002 at 09:58:55 [GMT+0100] (which was 08:58 where I
live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to TBDUDL and made these points:
I am changing my web-browser to Opera (www.opera.no). I like the
interface, it is quick, it is made in
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Hi Ottar,
On 06 January 2002 at 11:20:22 [GMT+0100] (which was 10:20 where I
live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to Eddie Castelli and made these points:
Attention Marck - I think you should look into this one.
I have - it's Opera's implementation of
Hello Marck,
06. januar 2002, 11:31:40, you wrote:
MDP The opera implementation of JavaScript isn't up to it. Only IE has a
MDP full and proper implementation. Even NetScape, the original specifiers
MDP of the language, don't have an implementation that works as
MDP advertised.
It's not
Hello Jernej,
6 Jan 2002, 12:11:57, you wrote to TBUDL:
JS It's not JavaScript/EcmaScript's fault - Opera has full support
JS for it. But Opera is lacking DOM support - it only supports a few
JS basic functions. Now that the Unicode is finally supported,
JS they'll start working on DOM.
What
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Hi Jernej,
On 06 January 2002 at 12:11:57 [GMT+0100] (which was 11:11 where I
live) Jernej Simonèiè wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these
points:
MDP The opera implementation of JavaScript isn't up to it. Only IE
MDP has a full and proper
Hello Ottar!
On 6 Jan 2002 at 09:58:55 you wrote:
But it does not read the faq at
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html very well. Clicking on
the = signs does nothing. To whom should I complain, Marck or Opera?
Welcome to the wonderful world of Opera!
I just about half an
Hello Marck,
06. januar 2002, 12:33:49, you wrote:
MDP That makes sense. It is likely to work once they have support for DOM.
MDP Most of the reveal aspects of the pages work by document object state
MDP manipulation.
MDP In the interim, it looks like I'll have to revert to a flat form
MDP
Hello Ottar,
06. januar 2002, 12:26:02, you wrote:
OG What is DOM?
Document Object Model.
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The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its
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It was foretold that on 6-1-2002 @ 09:58:55 GMT+0100 (which was 9:58
where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote and spread these wise comments on
The faq and Opera:
the = signs does nothing. To whom should I complain, Marck or Opera?
I suggest you
On 1/6/2002 at 12:58 AM, Ottar Grimstad wrote:
To TBUDL,
I am changing my web-browser to Opera (www.opera.no). I like the interface, it is
quick, it is made in Norway, it is not Microsoft and therefore not so
easily attacked by nimbda and all the present worm/virus fauna.
But it
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It was foretold that on 6-1-2002 @ 11:25:03 GMT-0800 (which was 20:25
where I live) Don Zeigler wrote and spread these wise comments on The
faq and Opera:
A glance at the page's source code seems to indicate that it was
written with tags specific
Sunday, January 06, 2002, 2:35:36 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
I have - it's Opera's implementation of JavaScript that's the problem.
I can't code around it.
Sure you can.. Use regular old HTML instead of JavaScript. Or, instead
of having to click the = make the text a link to the page as
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Hi Luc,
On 06 January 2002 at 18:14:47 [GMT+0100] (which was 17:14 where I
live) Luc wrote to Don Zeigler and made these points:
A glance at the page's source code seems to indicate that it was
written with tags specific to Internet Explorer,
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Hi Alan,
On 06 January 2002 at 11:05:17 [GMT-0800] (which was 19:05 where I
live) Alan Poulton wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:
I have - it's Opera's implementation of JavaScript that's the
problem. I can't code around it.
Hello Marck,
06. januar 2002, 22:28:25, you wrote:
MDP It's not a page. It's revealing hidden document objects. Opera has no
MDP Document Object Model code, so it doesn't work. I can't code round it.
MDP I have to rewrite the pages in flat HTML and lose all drill down
MDP functionality
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Hi Jernej,
On 06 January 2002 at 22:57:56 [GMT+0100] (which was 21:57 where I
live) Jernej Simonèiè wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these
points:
Did you check the examples at http://www.cross-browser.com/? You
may find something there...
Hello Marck,
06. januar 2002, 23:08:44, you wrote:
Did you check the examples at http://www.cross-browser.com/? You
may find something there...
MDP I'm not so sure it will be of any help. The code works 100% with the
MDP DOM in IE and Mozilla. Once Opera add DOM support, I have no doubt
MDP
in.
As mentiones previously: My Opera was set up to present itself as
IE5.0. When I changed that to make it present as Opera, the faq
pages _did_ change. The first page is identical to the IE5.0 version
and the = do not work. But you can scroll down to a second copy of
the page and there the = works
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