Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-05-03 Thread Akshay Vyas
I am not sure what caused this because i have fedora 17 beta installed on my old p4 pc and its working fine earlier i had fedora 16 installed i didn't faced any issue with selinux On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Sat, 201

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-05-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 2 May 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 23:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: What should I do about the messages? Would yum reinstalling some packages, e.g. selinux-policy-targeted, help? What are the consequences of just ignoring them? At this point I'd say file a b

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 23:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > What should I do about the messages? > Would yum reinstalling some packages, e.g. selinux-policy-targeted, help? > What are the consequences of just ignoring them? At this point I'd say file a bug against selinux-policy for that issue,

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:55 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Which of these should I worry about? [root@localhost ~]# grep -v stall install.log warning: fontpackages-filesystem-1.44-2.fc15.noarch: Header V

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:55 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >> I wouldn't be hugely worried about any of them. Try doing a full install > >> and I suspect a lot of the above 'weirdness' would go a

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: I wouldn't be hugely worried about any of them. Try doing a full install and I suspect a lot of the above 'weirdness' would go away. Will do. Done. Which of these should I worry about? [root@localhost

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 13:09 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: The problems that I am aware of so far: I seem to be stuck with KDE though I specified at least two other desktops. The login screen did not ha

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 13:09 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >> I wouldn't be hugely worried about any of them. Try doing a full install > >> and I suspect a lot of the above 'weirdness' would go aw

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: I wouldn't be hugely worried about any of them. Try doing a full install and I suspect a lot of the above 'weirdness' would go away. Will do. Done. The problems that I am aware of so far: I seem to

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> I've booted F16. > > >> My old-grub stanza: > >> title chainload to sda > >> kernel (hd1,1)/grub2/core.img > >> > >>

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-18 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I've booted F16. My old-grub stanza: title chainload to sda kernel (hd1,1)/grub2/core.img As I didn't expect it to work, I only installed the minimal version. There are a few things

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I've booted F16. > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 . > > > > As we understand it at present, you can't 'chainload' grub2 that way. > > The correct way to 'chainl

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
I've booted F16. On Tue, 17 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 . As we understand it at present, you can't 'chainload' grub2 that way. The correct way to 'chainload' grub2 is to load core.img as a 'kernel', as described in https://bugzilla.r

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 12:51 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: > > > On 04/14/2012 04:29 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > >> The next time, I made /boot sda2 and picked sda for the bootloader. > >> This time I got an install, but I'm not sure how to boot to it. >

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-14 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/14/2012 04:29 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: The next time, I made /boot sda2 and picked sda for the bootloader. This time I got an install, but I'm not sure how to boot to it. I'd rather not have to play with the BIOS every time I want to boot a differe

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-14 Thread mwesten
On 04/14/2012 04:29 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: So I tried again. I use grub's setup to put the bootloader on sdb and point it at sdb1. I updated BIOS settings to use sdb. Again anaconda labeled sdb partitons storage and sda partitions install. It had sda marked for the bootloader. It offered me

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-14 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: Alright, I looked at the pics you posted and it appears that you have reproduced this anaconda crash during the bootloader installation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796472 I was looking at the included exception report and it seems this pers

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Hennebry
Why can grub find one file and not the other? [root@localhost homes]# pwd /homes [root@localhost homes]# df / /homes Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1082582288 32223896 46163628 42% / /dev/sdb1 38456308 35386332 1116476 97%

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/12/2012 10:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: No selinux message, but Still no go. I took some pictures of the "Details" message, I'm not getting anything at that URL

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread mwesten
On 04/12/2012 10:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: No selinux message, but Still no go. I took some pictures of the "Details" message, but the three are >60KB a piece after processing, >2MB before. Should I send

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, cornel panceac wrote: this may be of help, too. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum I'm trying it, but I'm feeling fuzzy at Install the new fedora gpg key for the version you are updating to Would this command do it: rpm --import https://fedorproject

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: No selinux message, but Still no go. I took some pictures of the "Details" message, but the three are >60KB a piece after processing, >2MB before. Should I send them to the list? I put them on http://web.cs.n

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread mwesten
On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: No selinux message, but Still no go. I took some pictures of the "Details" message, but the three are >60KB a piece after processing, >2MB before. Should I send them to the list? I put them on http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-[123].pn

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: The description of that patch suggests that passing any one of these kernel parameters will prevent the problem. acpi=off processor.nocst=1 maxcpus=1 I'm getting to anaconda now. When I tried the upgrade, the

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/12/2012 11:52 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/11/2012 08:52 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Here is the final grub stanza: title Install Fedora16 from iso 11 15:34 root

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread mwesten
On 04/12/2012 11:52 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/11/2012 08:52 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Here is the final grub stanza: title Install Fedora16 from iso 11 15:34 root (hd0,2) kernel /isolinux16/vmlinuz rep

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: On 04/11/2012 08:52 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Here is the final grub stanza: title Install Fedora16 from iso 11 15:34 root (hd0,2) kernel /isolinux16/vmlinuz repo=hd:LABEL=/home1:/iso16 acpi=off processor.nocst

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-11 Thread mwesten
On 04/11/2012 08:52 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Here is the final grub stanza: title Install Fedora16 from iso 11 15:34 root (hd0,2) kernel /isolinux16/vmlinuz repo=hd:LABEL=/home1:/iso16 acpi=off processor.nocst=1 maxcpus=1 selinux=0 initrd /isolinu

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: If this is the kernel bug you are referring to, perhaps there is a workaround you could use to get your minimal CD running in order to do an install. The description of that patch suggests that passing any one

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: If this is the kernel bug you are referring to, perhaps there is a workaround you could use to get your minimal CD running in order to do an install. The description of that patch suggests that passing any one of these kernel parameters will prevent the pr

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-10 Thread mwesten
On 04/10/2012 01:37 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 21:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm pretty sure there must be a less strange and rarely-used way of > doing it that would be usa

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 12:37 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 21:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >> > I'm pretty sure there must be a less strange and rarely-used way of > >

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 21:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm pretty sure there must be a less strange and rarely-used way of > doing it that would be usable in your situation... If you know what it is,

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 21:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 17:08 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> It's now been moe than a month sicne I started trying to install F16. > >> Grrr. > > > > To be honest, I've mostly tuned

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 17:08 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: It's now been moe than a month sicne I started trying to install F16. Grrr. To be honest, I've mostly tuned out this thread because you seem to have become intent on doing it in a very co

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 17:08 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > It's now been moe than a month sicne I started trying to install F16. > Grrr. To be honest, I've mostly tuned out this thread because you seem to have become intent on doing it in a very complicated way, which some people have been t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 04:22:38PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > My next trick should be to fix the need for enforcing=0. > Should triggering an automatic relabeling do that? One of reasons why it is needed. > Why does SELinux need fixing? > Do its rules reference sectors, absolute or relat

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/09 16:22 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: My next trick should be to fix the need for enforcing=0. Should triggering an automatic relabeling do that? Why does SELinux need fixing? Do its rules reference sectors, absolute or relative? I suggest a thread on a users list on this s

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, cornel panceac wrote: this may be of help, too. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum Indeed it might. It looks hairier than preupgrade, but it avoids anaconda. That might avoid the land mine that causes crashes when I try to do an install. -- Michael

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/08 17:08 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: How about "cloning" your F15, and upgrading that to F16 with latest

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-09 Thread cornel panceac
this may be of help, too. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/08 17:08 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: How about "cloning" your F15, and upgrading that to F16 with latest fixes with Yum? I made a filesystem

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-08 Thread Michael Hennebry
It's now been moe than a month sicne I started trying to install F16. Grrr. On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: How about "cloning" your F15, and upgrading that to F16 with latest fixe

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 19:05 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_PreUpgrade Vey interesting. It seems that yum doesn't know about it either. So far as yum is concerned, it's just installing another boring package. I just hope that t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: How about "cloning" your F15, and upgrading that to F16 with latest fixes with Yum? I suppose I could clone my F15 by copying its partition, but I th

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: Like running an app in an xterm, otherwise invisible messages may provide a necessary clue to solving a problem. That means that from the command line, grub will emit messages that I would no

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 12:35 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe it's time to dispense with the script (menu.lst/grub.conf) CLUE ^^ CLUE :-) I don't understand how that

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 12:35 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe it's time to dispense with the script (menu.lst/grub.conf) CLUE ^^ CLUE :-) I don't understand how that would help. It seems to me that that wou

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/05 20:17 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: The pause commands are so I can tell how far booting gets before it craps out on me. 'Tis annoying to watch what little I might understand disappear before I can read it or even tell where it came

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/05 20:17 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: After the last pause, it reboots as if I had hit the reset button. Seems the expected result of there being no /felix17/initrd.img or /felix17/vmlinuz on the 3rd partition on the first BIOS

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/05 16:46 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: My most recent attempt to install F17, used the following grub stanza: title Felix17 find /felix17/vmlinuz pause find /felix17/vmlinuz kernel (hd0,2)/felix17/vmlinuz repo=http:/

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/05 16:46 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: My most recent attempt to install F17, used the following grub stanza: title Felix17 find /felix17/vmlinuz pause find /felix17/vmlinuz kernel (hd0,2)/felix17/vmlinuz repo=http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/fedora/develo

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Hennebry
My most recent attempt to install F17, used the following grub stanza: title Felix17 find /felix17/vmlinuz pause find /felix17/vmlinuz kernel (hd0,2)/felix17/vmlinuz repo=http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/fedora/development/17/i386/os noapic noacpi nolapic pause kernel

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:30:47AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >AFAIK 'askmethod' is no longer valid. Use repo=... Arrrg. Syntax!!! kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz repo=hd:LABEL=/home1:/iso

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
[corrected typo] I just installed 32 bit to 2.8GHz 1024 cache family 15 model 3 stepping 4 without NX on i915 using http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/development/17/i386/os/images/boot.iso Since yesterday I'd been trying to start install from HD using this Grub stanza: title Install Rawhide (hd0,

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
I just installed 32 bit to 2.8GHz 1024 cache family 15 model 3 stepping 4 without NX on i915 using http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/development/17/i386/os/images/boot.iso Since yesterday I'd been trying to start install from HD using this Grub stanza: title Install Rawhide (hd0,13) kernel

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:30:47AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > >AFAIK 'askmethod' is no longer valid. Use repo=... > > Arrrg. Syntax!!! > > kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz repo=hd:LABEL=/home1:/iso17/ > good? I really do not know i

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: Here is the grub stanza I used this time: title Install Fedora17 from iso root (hd0,2) pause have rooted (hd0,2) find /isolinux17/vmlinuz pause have finded kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz repo=h

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:05:50PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: This approximately what I'd been trying to do. This is what I'd been using to try to boot F17-alpha: title Install Fedora17 from iso

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:05:50PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: This approximately what I'd been trying to do. This is what I'd been using to try to boot F17-alpha: title Install Fedora17 from iso root (hd0,2) find /isolinux17/vm

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:05:50PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > This approximately what I'd been trying to do. > This is what I'd been using to try to boot F17-alpha: > title Install Fedora17 from iso > root (hd0,2) > find /isolinux17/vmlinuz > kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 04:53:32PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >>Is there an equivalent in grub 1? OK, so what do you really mean by "grub 1"? You either have grub-0.97-... or grub2-1.99-... a.k.a. grub2. I thought that by "grub 1" you meant t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 04:53:32PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >>Is there an equivalent in grub 1? OK, so what do you really mean by "grub 1"? You either have grub-0.97-... or grub2-1.99-... a.k.a. grub2. I thought that by "grub 1" you meant the former. > > I should have been more specifi

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 02:26:45PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >menuentry 'Anaconda' { >load_video >set gfxpayload=keep >insmod gzio >insmod part_msdos >insmod ext2 >linux (h

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 02:26:45PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > > >menuentry 'Anaconda' { > > load_video > > set gfxpayload=keep > > insmod gzio > > insmod part_msdos > > insmod ext2 > > linux (hd0,msdos2)/boota/vmlinu

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:49:56AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: My machine won't boot with a USB drive attached and my burner does not work. Can one boot using a partition that is an iso image? I've mounted such partitions, but that is not the sa

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:49:56AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > >On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:39:56 -0500, > > Michael Hennebry wrote: > >>On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>Can they be booted without media? > > > >Possibly, but I am n

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 1 April 2012 09:49, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:39:56 -0500, >>  Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> Can they be booted without media? >> >> >> Possibly, but I am not sure how t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:39:56 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Can they be booted without media? Possibly, but I am not sure how to do it. I usually use livecd-iso-to-disk to put images on flash drives a

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:39:56 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Can they be booted without media? Possibly, but I am not sure how to do it. I usually use livecd-iso-to-disk to put images on flash drives and boot from them. -- test mailing list test

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 01:26:26 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: In bugzilla bug 808300, Josh Boyer wrote: D865GBF is one of the motherboards that was broken due to an ACPICA change. It was fixed in an updated kernel, but the F16 media cannot be up

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 01:26:26 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: In bugzilla bug 808300, Josh Boyer wrote: D865GBF is one of the motherboards that was broken due to an ACPICA change. It was fixed in an updated kernel, but the F16 media cannot be updated. See bugs 73007 727865. Can you please t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
In my most recent efforts, I added noapci to the kernel command line. In the case of F17, the last line I could read before catatonia included "unpacking initramfs". F16 was similar, but it was to fast for me to read well. Here are the grub stanzas: title Install Fedora17 from iso root (hd

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
In bugzilla bug 808300, Josh Boyer wrote: D865GBF is one of the motherboards that was broken due to an ACPICA change. It was fixed in an updated kernel, but the F16 media cannot be updated. See bugs 73007 727865. Can you please try the nightly F17 live images, or the upcoming F17 beta? I can tr

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 08:47 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 20:34 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: > >> > >> > If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread James Wilkinson
Michael Hennebry wrote: > I'm not looking for NX. > I only mentioned it because in another thread someone suggested that > NX might be the reason I couldn't get the F16 installer to boot. Actually, I think you’ll find someone questioned whether PAE was necessary (it isn’t, but a Pentium 4s has PAE

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread John Reiser
> How do I find the most recent image? There is only one Release image ever made and distributed by Fedora, so if the checksum matches then you have the latest official image. Updates are distributed electronically via yum in the repository that is designated in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.r

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Hennebry wrote: > How do I find the most recent image? > I'd previously thought that that was the most recent image. Official images are made one time only. You will need to make a new install image yourself or try a Fedora 17 beta image. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Josh Boyer wrote: Actually, there was a change in the ACPICA code that broke a number of P4 motherboards entirely that went out with F16. That was in 2.6.39, and F16 shipped with 3.1, and it wasn't fixed until last month. I have no idea if that is the issue Michael is seei

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 20:34 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: >> >> > If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a >> > Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and e

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mar 29, 2012 9:34 PM, "Michael Hennebry" wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and even if it does, might not be support

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread mwesten
On 03/29/2012 11:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 20:34 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and even if it does, might no

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 20:34 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: > > > If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a > > Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and even if it does, might not > > be > > supported by your BIOS

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mar 29, 2012 9:34 PM, "Michael Hennebry" wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: > >> If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and even if it does, might not be supported by your BIOS or any available upgra

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: If you want NX for your existing motherboard you'd probably have to find a Prescott 478, which may never have existed, and even if it does, might not be supported by your BIOS or any available upgrade for it. I'm not looking for NX. I only mentioned it

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/03/29 17:29 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: Stepping doesn't say anything useful without family& model for context. I'm looking at two different Hyperthreading P4 cpuinfo screens ATM, stepping of 3 on one, 5 on the other, but one is mo

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/03/29 14:30 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: What kind of Pentium IV. There were several versions and also multiple motherboards all of which will affect whether this question can be answered. Stepping 9.

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:25:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: Has F17 been tested to see whether it will install on a Pentium 4? Recently I installed F15 because I could not get the F16 installer to boot. I can get the F13, F14 and F15 installers to boot without media. The F16 installer was

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/03/29 14:30 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: What kind of Pentium IV. There were several versions and also multiple motherboards all of which will affect whether this question can be answered. Stepping 9. Stepping doesn't say anything useful wi

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 29 March 2012 11:25, Michael Hennebry wrote: Has F17 been tested to see whether it will install on a Pentium 4? Recently I installed F15 because I could not get the F16 installer to boot. I can get the F13, F14 and F15 installers to boot with

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 29 March 2012 11:25, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Has F17 been tested to see whether it will install on a Pentium 4? > Recently I installed F15 because I could not get the F16 installer to boot. > I can get the F13, F14 and F15 installers to boot without media. > The F16 installer was a no go, bot

F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
Has F17 been tested to see whether it will install on a Pentium 4? Recently I installed F15 because I could not get the F16 installer to boot. I can get the F13, F14 and F15 installers to boot without media. The F16 installer was a no go, both without media and with a minimal CD. In both cases, I