Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

2007-11-01 Thread Ted Samsel
Too many adverbs very relatively is a tad ambiguous.. T. -Original Message- From: "Minton, Mark" Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:34 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving From

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

2007-11-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu
IMHO, Caving is safe provided you have: 1) Proper training 2) Proper equipment 3) Proper planning as with anything else ... On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:02:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) tbsam...@infionline.net wrote: Too many adverbs very relatively is a tad ambiguous.. T. -Original

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Vreeland
I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving, it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of dangerosity. This doesn't include cave diving, which would skew the numbers, as diving

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

2007-11-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu
People get injured or killed playing golf?!@#$% On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:06:56 -0500 cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote: I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving, it falls somewhere between Soccer and

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

2007-11-01 Thread Gregg
Dangerosity os a great word. Chris Vreeland wrote: I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving, it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of dangerosity. This doesn't include cave

Re: [Texascavers] OT - a personal post

2007-11-01 Thread Charles Goldsmith
David, you didn't indicate if this is something that you are happy about or not, but if so, congratulations is in order. I, for one, will miss your postings about led's and such. Good luck in your new endeavor and keep us posted please. Charles On 10/30/07, David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Energy Issues

2007-11-01 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:24:40 -0700 (PDT) stephen...@yahoo.com wrote: King Hubbert accurately predicted in 1956 that US oil production would peak in 1970, which it did. However, his model is generally considered to have failed since, as his predicted bell shaped decline has been more of a

[Texascavers] Psst! Hey, buddy! Wanna buy a town?

2007-11-01 Thread mark . alman
Yes, you too, can be the owner of a whole town in Texas and the past site of the 2007 TSA Spring Convention. Here's the link: http://www.alberttexas.com/home/owntown.php TSA Land Fund purchase, perhaps?! 8^) Later, Mark A.

RE: [Texascavers] Psst! Hey, buddy! Wanna buy a town?

2007-11-01 Thread Louise Power
Wow! If I had $2 million +, I'd buy it and move back in a minute. To h*** with the planned improvements, I'd just want to live there with no interruptions. We've got enough Disneylands. Louise From: mark.alman@l-3com.comDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:46:10 -0500To:

[Texascavers] Whirlpool tomorrow!

2007-11-01 Thread Túček
I'm planning a beginners trip to Whirlpool Cave in Austin tomorrow (Nov 2) meeting at 7:15pm. I still have spots for 4 or 5 people, so if you want to come, drop me a line off-list! -Heather Tucek htu...@gmail.com (512)773-1348

[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

2007-11-01 Thread Marvin Lisa
Just a reminder that the November karst project weekend at Government Canyon State Natural Area is scheduled for the 17th and 18th. Directions to the gate of GCSNA. Find the intersection of U.S. 16 and Loop 1604 in northwest Bexar County (clearly shown on any state highway map). Drive 2

[Texascavers] RE: Dangers of caving

2007-11-01 Thread Minton, Mark
Chris Vreeland said: caving, it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of dangerosity. This doesn't include cave diving, which would skew the numbers, as diving appears to be quite a bit more dangerous. I really like dangerosity! :-) Even the kind of dry caving you

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Dangers of caving

2007-11-01 Thread John P Brooks
People get injured or killed playing golf?! Killed probably not, but injured, sure. Golfer's elbow, for example. What about the risk of being struck by lightening while playing golf? That is probably more likely to occur than having a caving accident. And of

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Dangers of caving

2007-11-01 Thread mark . alman
Golf is a good walk spoiled. Mark Twain From: John P Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:01 AM To: Minton, Mark; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Dangers of caving

[Texascavers] Dangers of golfing

2007-11-01 Thread gille
-- Original message -- From: Minton, Mark mmin...@nmhu.edu Lyndon Tiu said: People get injured or killed playing golf?! Killed probably not, but injured, sure. Mark Minton A lot of golfers get killed every year by lightning. I don't know about

[Texascavers] TSA Officer Elections

2007-11-01 Thread Linda Palit
Ballots for the TSA officers were sent out today. Running for President is John Brooks, Secretary is Mark Alman, Vice-President is Robert Bisset, and Treasurer is Darla Bishop. There is also room for write in candidates. Deadline for returning your ballot is November 20. Please watch of

[Texascavers] TSA Officer Elections

2007-11-01 Thread Linda Palit
Ballots for the TSA officers were sent out today. Running for President is John Brooks. Running for Secretary is Mark Alman. Running for Vice-President is Robert Bisset. And running for Treasurer is Darla Bishop. There is also room for write in candidates. Deadline for returning your ballot