[ot_caving] funny video game

2008-06-20 Thread David
Have you seen this video game where you are an archer with a bow, and you have to shoot an apple off of some guys head? http://www.officegamespot.com/officegames/appleshooter.htm Use the mouse to raise or lower the bow. Aim a little high our your buddy dies. It is strange

[Texascavers] Laguna de Sanchez trip (need rider)

2008-06-20 Thread Ron Rutherford
I could use a rider in my truck to Laguna de Sanchez. Anyone want to come along? We are leaving Sat morning and I will be coming back Wed the 25th. -- Ron Rutherford

[ot_caving] a yogurt story

2008-06-20 Thread David
I have been drinking yogurt smoothies almost daily for the past few months. I don't know if it has done me any good or not. Here is an interesting story about the guy who invented the yogurt smoothie that is advertised to have all the pro-biotic ingredients:

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Canned cave food- Gourmet or gourmand?

2008-06-20 Thread Ted Samsel
I heard it went: gourmetgourmandglutton.. T -Original Message- From: Andy Gluesenkamp a...@gluesenkamp.com Sent: Jun 19, 2008 3:16 PM To: Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Canned cave food- Gourmet or gourmand? WaV, I

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Canned cave food- Gourmet or gourmand?

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
OINK! -Original Message- From: Ted Samsel [mailto:tbsam...@infionline.net] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:32 AM To: Andy Gluesenkamp; Don Cooper Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: Canned cave food- Gourmet or gourmand? I heard it went:

[ot_caving] movie related

2008-06-20 Thread David
a few days ago, a posted something about a good DVD movie, and I subtly mentioned Kiera Knightley's breast. Today, her breast are headline news: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369509,00.html I have heard that she was only 16 when she filmed the semi-nude sex scene in the remake of

RE: [ot_caving] movie related

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
Kiera is almost as beautiful as Salma Hyack. Fritz, the supreme judge of beautiful women. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:37 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] movie related a few days ago, a posted something

Re: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread David
I keep hearing everybody who is jumping on the bandwagon say Its our oil, lets drill it. I say, it is NOT our oil! It is our kid's oil, our grandkids oil, and if it were conserved properly; it will be our great-grandkids oil. Unfortunately, our great-grandkids will be paying $ 100 a gallon

[ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Alex Sproul
Even sadder is that the majority of the voting public is too lazy to become informed on the issues or their representatives position on the issues and continue to vote them into office to their own detriment. Gee, sounds remarkably like the NSS! Alex

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
I don't pretend to be either, just an opinionated geezer. I accomplish a lot. More maintenance chores at home(s) than selling insurance. Fritz From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:42 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject:

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
David, You are overreacting. You watch too many doomsday movies. If what I have heard is true there are enough oil reserves and other fossil fuels to at least supply our great grandchildren in the future. There must be some legislative changes to take advantage of these minerals. Fritz

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
Louise, You are now elevated to Editor In Chief and feel at liberty to correct my inability to punctuate properly. Fritz From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:33 PM To: Fritz Holt; CaverArch Cc: o...@texascavers.com

Re: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread David
Fritz is right. Soylent Green is my favorite movie. I highly recommend it if you haven't ever seen it. Last week John McCain said something like this we are just one natural disaster away from a crisis. Those were not his exact words, but it is pretty close. If San Fransisco were to fall

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Louise Power
I say put more money in decent public transportation so that we can all share the cost more equitably. That's one lesson we could learn from the european countries. Their gas is $6-8/gal. Here in southern oregon, we have no choice but to drive. Crappy public transportation at best.

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
America would be better off if Greater Los Angeles would fall off of California. David, may we please swap electric service bills? Fritz -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:02 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving]

Re: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread David
Louise, Public transportation in Houston is dangerous. You are more likely to get robbed or worse waiting on a bus here. And at night, some of the bus stops are in unpopulated areas and are dark. Terrible things could happen to you or to someone that you love. Also, we have

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Fritz Holt
Damned, David. You should move from this hell hole. That would be doing something. An old geezer who is living dangerously and on borrowed time. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:26 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re:

RE: [ot_caving] RE: Oil prices rise, demand declines - DEFINATELY POLITICAL

2008-06-20 Thread Louise Power
David, I lived in Houston for about 15 years and did not find Houston public transportation in particularly good condition--it was dirty and half the time the air conditioning didn't work. But whose fault is that? I really don't know. It was servicable, however, and got me where I wanted to

[ot_caving] My solar cell set up

2008-06-20 Thread Bill Bentley
http://www.caver.net/images/solar%20and%20battery%201.JPG - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com

Re: [ot_caving] My solar cell set up

2008-06-20 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Very nice Bill, what are the plans for it? On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: http://www.caver.net/images/solar%20and%20battery%201.JPG

Re: [ot_caving] My solar cell set up

2008-06-20 Thread Don Cooper
You might have seen pictures I've posted of him standing in a 15 foot hole in his back yard in NW Houston outskirts (for concrete anchors for upcoming heavy tower to support 10 to 15 kW wind turbine). This is my brothers array - he generally pulls in about 2kW with these panels - about 8 hours a

Re: [ot_caving] My solar cell set up

2008-06-20 Thread Bill Bentley
For emergency communications for my Amateur Radio station...It is all DC and will pretty much power anything I got. Bill - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net Cc: o...@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:18 PM

[ot_caving] Re: Public Transportation

2008-06-20 Thread quinta
I know we have a good transit system here for the size of the town/ city. 100,000 is that cut off and I do not know which we fit in. Wichita Falls has worked hard to upgrade the buses here. Some 3 or 4 years ago they put in cameras in all buses and keep a month of files - digital I think. It

[Texascavers] [In case you are interested in the T.C.M.A., don't know already!]

2008-06-20 Thread Don Arburn
The TCMA now has a member and interested party list server for the latest news and information about the TCMA. An e-mail is typically sent out monthly. If you'd like to subscribe to the news list, please sent a blank e-mail to: tcma-list-subscr...@tcmacaves.org. The subscription is

[ot_caving] crime in the city

2008-06-20 Thread David
Louise, In 1976, I used to walk 2 miles to elementary school in the snow all by myself. I crossed private property, hopped fences, chased wild animals, entered sewer tunnels, took short cuts across industrial work zones.Those were different times, or maybe I was extremely lucky to

RE: [ot_caving] crime in the city

2008-06-20 Thread Louise Power
You're right about the population. In 2000, there were just about 530,000 people in PDX, making it the most populous city in Oregon and the third most populous city in the Northwest--we're not all that big up here. The demographics, however, are extremely varied (per Wiki,

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-20 Thread CaverArch
Fritz, I believe that the credit for wind farm proliferation in Texas can actually be credited to the State (as well as to a lot of wind). Texas has some significant incentives for wind power. I once read how many households could be lit if the state's full potential was realized, and it was