[ot_caving] cave food

2008-07-02 Thread David
This is for you almond lovers out there. Blue Diamond sells oven-roasted almonds that are not cooked in oil. They are covered lightly in a natural vanilla. They come in a sturdy plastic container with a screw on lid. They are very delicious and healthy. I believe I found them at Walmart.

[ot_caving] economics

2008-07-02 Thread David
Do you remember a time when Americans used to travel to places because they could have a whole lot of fun for the money at those places. They could go to some poor country and stay in the finest hotels and have servants and live like royalty for a few days. Now America is becoming the 3rd

[Texascavers] Vermont cave in the news

2008-07-02 Thread David
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS02/807020351/1003/NEWS02 What is next, a cave rescue in Nebraska? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr

[Texascavers] Vermont cave

2008-07-02 Thread Mixon Bill
Hey, there's a whole book on caves of Vermont. The cave where the rescue occurred is Falls (not False, as in the article) Cliff Cave in Bennington County. The 2010 NSS Convention will be in Vermont. -- Bill Mixon -- You may reply to the address

[Texascavers] Yes, Virgina, Vermont has caves Re: [Texascavers] Vermont cave in the news

2008-07-02 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
2008 12:02:49 -0500 From: David e-mail: dlocklea...@gmail.com http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS02/807020351/1003/NEWS02 What is next, a cave rescue in Nebraska? - Visit our website: http

[ot_caving] simple things to cook around base camp

2008-07-02 Thread David
Check out this delicious recipe: http://www.gatewayno.com/cuisine/recipes/lite/greenbeancranwalnut.html I prefer to use a mixture of green beans, and throw in some fire-roasted baby carrots from the camp-fire. Use some flaxseed oil in the skillet.Top it off with some low-fat

[Texascavers] measuring total darkness

2008-07-02 Thread David
Shouldn't your cave map note the normal threshold boundary of total darkness? Here is an e-mail I received from a company that sells a gadget that could measure light intensity in a cave passage and possibly determine the boundary line of total darkness in a cave:

RE: [Texascavers] measuring total darkness

2008-07-02 Thread Stefan Creaser
For $1385 I'll walk into a cave and tell you when I can't see anymore :-) Cheers, Stefan From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Shouldn't your cave map note the normal threshold boundary of total darkness? Here is an e-mail I received from a company that sells a gadget that could measure

Re: [Texascavers] measuring total darkness

2008-07-02 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
1. What about the light beam from an entrance. 2. Which time? If the entrance faces West or East??? Just search on lux meters and you will get a lot of hits. This place has a kit one for under $60 - www.electronickits.com/index.htm They even have a tube amplifier kit! Just what you need for your

Re: [Texascavers] measuring total darkness

2008-07-02 Thread John Brooks
I think I would hold out until they make an automated one with robotic features and the ability to uplink to a satellitesort of like those Martian Roversbecause to ever get precise data...you would probably have to leave the thing in the cave and let it move around for a year to find

[Texascavers] and it's stamp size! Re: [Texascavers] Vermont cave

2008-07-02 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
Bill, There may be a whole book on the caves of Vermont but it's stamp sized! One of the Vermont caver T shirts says That's not my business card, it's a cave map. Nigel You wrote on: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:56:52 -0500 From: Mixon Bill e-mail: bmixon...@austin.rr.com Hey, there's a whole book on

[ot_caving] An option to drilling OIL

2008-07-02 Thread Don Cooper
I heard mention of this the other day on Earth and Sky radio programette. It sounds to me like a very fine alternative to importation of crude from the mideast or alchemy of turning coal into oil. Sulfur, I believe, is virtually non-existent in natural gas (well, except maybe for YOUR natural gas)

[Texascavers] Florida cave diving incident, Austin, TX victim

2008-07-02 Thread Johnson, Russ (ATX)
There is a front page article in today's Austin American Statesman about an Austinite in a coma after a Florida cave diving incident; few caving/diving details. http://www.statesman.com/search/content/news/stories/local/06/28/0628rou ndup.html Russ COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL: This e-mail and

RE: [Texascavers] Florida cave diving incident, Austin, TX victim

2008-07-02 Thread RD Milhollin
Try this link. Very talented young lady from all accounts, hope she recovers. www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/28/0628roundup.html -Original Message- From: Johnson, Russ (ATX) [mailto:russ.k.john...@westonsolutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:55 PM

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Sproul
Even for those who can afford the high cost of gasoline, they (we) should not be putting billions of our dollars in the pockets of OPEC... Then WTF *should* we be doing, Fritz? Walking? There'll be no tipping the balance of where the oil comes from in the next couple of decades at a minimum.

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Louise Power
Our congressman, Greg Walden, is proposing a new bill in the House called the Security and Energy for America Act, which he says would cut dependence on foreign oil and fund timber payments. To hear what he has to say, go to http://www.kdrv.com/article.aspx?id=43420 From: imoca...@comcast.net

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Fritz Holt
Hey Alex, Better late than never in responding to my posts of June 19 to Louise, ET AL. You may have misinterpreted what I was trying to get across. I am aware that the US (and many others) will be dependant on OPEC and others for the foreseeable future. But, do we still want to be in that

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Sproul
Better late than never in responding to my posts of June 19 to Louise, ET AL. Well, I'll admit that I found that digest (for reasons unexplained) in my spam folder, but I'd swear it was from 29 June, not 19 June, or I would have left well enough alone... I

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Fritz Holt
Alex, I won't put my uneducated guess up against your semi-educated guess as there are a lot of ifs which are beyond our control. I believe that US industry can do almost anything if they want to but unlike at the beginning of WW 2 when the incentive was patriotism and saving our way of life,

RE: [ot_caving] FW: Oil Drilling Petition to sign

2008-07-02 Thread Alex Sproul
Fritz -- ...unlike at the beginning of WW 2 when the incentive was patriotism and saving our way of life, the incentive now is purely monetary. So, indeed the question may be not if they can but will they? The giant companies may make millions in charitable (tax

[Texascavers] LED lights unhealthy?

2008-07-02 Thread David
I knew there had to be a catch with LED lights. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007SPIE.6426E..66S - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional

[ot_caving] darn LEDs can't cave roast them nuts! Re: [ot_caving] cave food

2008-07-02 Thread Nigel Dyson-Hudson
Dave, Darn LEDs can't cave roast them nuts! Now if you had a carbide lamp, not only could you have cave roasted hot peanuts. Or make those roasted, sugar coated, almonds, even better. You could even fresh roast coffee beans and use one of them camp stove espress/capicino makers! Campmor.com,