[Texascavers] Fw: Education News from the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum

2008-12-11 Thread Jules Jenkins
FYI if anyone is interested --- On Wed, 12/10/08, The Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum educat...@thestoryoftexas.com wrote: From: The Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum educat...@thestoryoftexas..com Subject: Education News from the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum To:

texascavers Digest 11 Dec 2008 14:50:26 -0000 Issue 665

2008-12-11 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 11 Dec 2008 14:50:26 - Issue 665 Topics (messages 9640 through 9647): Re: Refrigeration over fire? 9640 by: Andy Zenker 9642 by: Gill Ediger 9643 by: Fritz Holt Refrigeration over Fire 9641 by: Andy Zenker Harry Walker 9644 by:

[Texascavers] Man breaks leg in New Braunfels cave

2008-12-11 Thread CWAN
My Mom called me at 7:30 this morning to tell me that someone broke their leg in a cave in New Braunfels. I looked it up and it's there in the Herald Zeitung. He is 50 years old. He slid 50 feet then fell 25. That's all the information their giving out. This happened yesterday, who is it? I guess

Re: [ot_caving] Re: huge flat screen TV

2008-12-11 Thread CaverArch
They are supposed to be spreading all over LA, too, due to a glitch loophole in a billboard ordnance there. Roger In a message dated 12/10/08 14:03:13 Central Standard Time, imoca...@comcast.net writes: It is not really a TV, but at 19 feet by 34 feet, it is a flat screen billboard. Imagine

RE: [ot_caving] Re: huge flat screen TV

2008-12-11 Thread Louise Power
They've even gotten to rural southwestern Oregon. We've got a truck driving around Medford with those screens on each side. I almost ran up over a curb the first time it pulled up beside me in traffic. There's also an auto dealership in town that has a double sided flat screen billboard.

RE: [Texascavers] Harry Walker

2008-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
Jenny's politics (and that of her sister) fit right in with the caving fraternity's. Where did I go wrong? I love them anyway. Their Dad From: Jenny Holt [mailto:jhol...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:55 AM To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org;

Re: [Texascavers] Harry Walker

2008-12-11 Thread CaverArch
I have to second Jenny Holt's thoughtful comments regarding David's post on Harry, as well as his actual help to Harry and Dorothy in the wake of Ike. David catches a bit of kidding for his posts (which do sometimes fall into the too much information category), but his posts on (and devotion

[Texascavers] OT - another good cheap LED flashlight

2008-12-11 Thread David
Walgreens of all places has a new LED flashlight that I can recommend. It has 17 LED's, fits in the palm of your hand, and has a dimming switch to operate on just 6 LED's to save your batteries. It only cost $ 9.99 plus tax. I tested it last night, and it is has good quality construction and

[NMCAVER] Jim White Jr.

2008-12-11 Thread William Tucker
Bob Hoff is reporting on his Carlsbad Caverns History blog that Jim White Jr. has passed away. Here is a link to the latest entry on the blog: http://carlsbadcavernshistory.blogspot.com/2008/12/jim-white-jr-passes-away.html William___ NMCAVER mailing

texascavers Digest 12 Dec 2008 00:02:15 -0000 Issue 666

2008-12-11 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 12 Dec 2008 00:02:15 - Issue 666 Topics (messages 9648 through 9659): Re: Harry Walker 9648 by: Fritz Holt 9650 by: CaverArch Man breaks leg in New Braunfels cave 9649 by: CWAN.boernenet.com Cave accident in New Braunfels 9651 by: Jon

[Texascavers] Cave accident in New Braunfels

2008-12-11 Thread Jon Cradit
http://herald-zeitung.com/story.lasso?ewcd=40742c686e3b489b-session=Her aldZeitung:4830E2641d9141C487tNU2444D85 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For

Re: [Texascavers] Cave accident in New Braunfels

2008-12-11 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
Maybe he was... Jacq. - Original Message - From: Jim Kennedy jkenn...@batcon.org To: Jon Cradit jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org; texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Cave accident in New Braunfels Doncha just LOVE misplaced

Re: [Texascavers] Cave accident in New Braunfels

2008-12-11 Thread Matt Turner
That is pretty awesome. Didn't you get the memo, to make the newspapers more money, we're to make sure all cave incidences include at least one broken bone? Seriously though do we know this person? It says they where looking for caves so I would think so.  Matt Turner It is the mark of an

RE: [Texascavers] Cave accident in New Braunfels

2008-12-11 Thread George Veni
The description of the cave is not very good in the report, and is probably exaggerated and wrong in some parts due to the usual translation issues from non-cavers to the media. Little Gem and Little Gem Annex have long been known in that area, but don't have entrances that would require a tripod

[Texascavers] TV Show tonight

2008-12-11 Thread Geary Schindel
On the DSC channel on cable, there is a program titled How Stuff Works which has a segment on Water. It airs at 7PM central time. It says it has some information on caves. I was told that George and I were on TV other night so this might be the same show. If they don't give our names, you can

[Texascavers] Harry Walker - part 2

2008-12-11 Thread David
Harry's obituary has already appeared on-line. http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=7be4776ef852dbd6-session=TheDailyNews:C6401EC11d9142ED67sOY28770F1 I forgot to mention that he climbed the Matterhorn. I recall that one of his acheivements was canoeing a nearly virgin river thru the

Re: [Texascavers] Harry Walker - part 2

2008-12-11 Thread Preston Forsythe
Mountain Climbing , Caving and Canoeing...Harry did it all!! Preston in Outer Browder - Original Message - From: David dlocklea...@gmail.com To: Texascavers Mailing List texascavers@texascavers.com; Emily McGowan

[Texascavers] Harry Walker--p 2, more

2008-12-11 Thread Gill Ediger
At 07:31 PM 12/11/2008, David wrote: I forgot to mention that he climbed the Matterhorn. He also accompanied us in 1977 on the first through trip of the Purificacíon System, a 21 hour trip--at the age of 56. --Ediger -

[Texascavers] Cave accident (long and involved diatribe)

2008-12-11 Thread Gill Ediger
At 06:02 PM 12/11/2008, Matt Turner wrote: Seriously though do we know this person? It says they where looking for caves so I would think so. There's always the chance, Matt, that some caver somewhere knows him. But there is sometimes a concept that all cavers know each other. They think

Re: [Texascavers] Cave accident (long and involved diatribe)

2008-12-11 Thread Preston Forsythe
Gill, Great Essay. Preston - Original Message - From: Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Cave accident (long and involved diatribe) At 06:02 PM 12/11/2008, Matt

[ot_caving] Bad TV On the Internet Tonight - or whenever you want

2008-12-11 Thread Don Cooper
Ah, trailer parks. As I'm writing this, on My Name is Earl the set is a trailer park. But that's not what I'm writing about. While trying to fall asleep (WAY before my usual bedtime) in Houston a while back at my brother's house over thanksgiving, channel-surfing - I snagged on a movie called The

[Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread David
I saw gas for $ 1.34 yesterday. I heard one analyst say that if the economy continues at its current pace, that gas could fall to 99 cents per gallon in some places. Where I live, there does not appear to be a decrease in demand for gas, so to me the huge price drop of $ 2.50 per gallon seems

RE: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
Oil companies are complaining because oil has dropped from $140. a barrel to below $50. Some years back when oil was at or below $20. they said if only the price could get back to $30. Although, I have read where the oil companies/refiners do not make a higher percentage of profit when oil

[ot_caving] RE: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Louise Power
I am so envious. We here in Medford are running between $1.73 (Costco, of course) to $1.89 (Chevron, et al.) Of course, this time last year it was running over $4.00/gal. I don't ever expect to see $.99 in this state again. Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:25:44 -0600 From: dlocklea...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Brian Riordan
It all depends. A classic Texas gusher takes nothing to get a lot. Deepwater fields cost a certain amount to initiate, produce and transport, if the current price doesn't offset that, they lose, while the Texas gusher may still make money. Canadian Oil Sands require even more to upgrade the oil

RE: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Fritz Holt
I was generally referring to imported oil prices and profit margins as that is where most of it comes from. Fritz From: Brian Riordan [mailto:riordan.br...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:43 PM To: Fritz Holt Cc: David; Texascavers Mailing List

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Don Cooper
My thinking is that part of the reason it's so low now is because so many financial hedge funds were betting that it would stay high. Part of the reason it's cheap now is because it was paid forward when it was so unreasonably high. When we were all getting ripped off where did all that money

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Simon Newton
Athabasca oil sands have a lifting cost of $22/bbl. So it's economic at a bit over that.Athabasca jobs pay nicely and generally comes with 4+ weeks vacation. How many jobs in the US do you get 4 weeks vacation to start? It may be remote, but it's only about 5 hours driving to Edmonton and most

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Three evenings ago on 60 minutes, an interview with the Saudi Oil Minister and the Aramco CEO. They mentioned that Saudi needs $20 average per barrel to break even. $55 per barrel to run the whole country. -- Lyndon Tiu -

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:21:46 -0600 csnew...@gmail.com wrote: and most people who work there can afford flights out. I heard companies actually fly their folks out (R/T) to their hometown on a regular basis as part of their compeansation package. Don't know if that is still true with the

Win an auction to name a bat

2008-12-11 Thread mpearson
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