Nancy Weaver said:
How on earth have bats managed to survive so long without thoughtful human intervention? Or any other part of nature? Good thing we can now remedy nature's poor planning.
It might not have been nature's poor planning. No one knows where WNS came from. We don't know if it
I sortof like the scenario of bats developing into a co-dependent
relationship with humans - like a parallel of the wolf's transformation
into dogs - how about Chiroptera Familiaris?
Imagine the range of Chihuahua to Great Dane
applied to flying mammals!
Look - I taught my bat to catch a
Hey,
Did anyone who spouted off on this actually read the article first?
It's about attempting to mitigate the effects of white-nose syndrome,
which is decimating bat populations and has seen a lot of discussion
on this list. I'm surprised to see cavers being derisively laissez-
faire
Some people have expressed doubts that the heated bat house proposal is worthwhile. Here is Jim Kennedy's response from the Texascavers email list. Jim works for Bat Conservation International in Austin.
I think it is more about feeling good, than actually doing good...
Absolutely not
Greetings, cavers! This is Crash, your manic Auctioneer, here to drum
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texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2009 16:58:01 - Issue 720
Topics (messages 10289 through 10309):
contacting Preston Knodell
10289 by: vauterb.aol.com
well rescue in Mexico
10290 by: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez
10291 by: Don Cooper
10292 by: Lyndon Tiu
PNW Forest
For other species, even the common cave myotis,
entire cave populations could be disappearing and we wouldn't even
know.
I agree, but that's not a very good statement about the environmental
importance of bats
--Mixon
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How on earth have bats managed to survive so long without thoughtful
human intervention? Or any other part of nature? Good thing we can
now remedy nature's poor planning. I wonder what the displacement
factor in the production of the heater boxes is - ie how many bats or
habitat does it
I think it is more about feeling good, than actually doing good...
Bill
Quoting Nancy Weaver nan...@io.com:
How on earth have bats managed to survive so long without thoughtful
human intervention? Or any other part of nature? Good thing we can
now remedy nature's poor planning. I wonder
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:39:54 -0600 Nancy Weaver nan...@io.com writes:
How on earth have bats managed to survive so long without thoughtful
human intervention? Or any other part of nature? Good thing we can now
remedy nature's poor planning. I wonder what the displacement factor in
the
Absolutely not Conservation money is in extremely short supply
right now, in this uncertain economy. Bat conservation is an even lower
funding priority than almost everything else I can think of. One of the
biggest hurdles in figuring out what is killing off 90% of all the bats
in the East
You mean this isn't about concealed carry for bats?T.
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Actually, there has been quite a bit of recent research about the
white fungus found on bats, and it's been published. Please see the
following article published in Science:
Originally published in Science Express on 30 October 2008
Science 9 January 2009:
Vol. 323. no. 5911, p. 227
DOI:
No problem, Bill. I wasn't singling you out. But WNS, and bat
conservation I general, is a serious business that is increasingly
difficult. It's not a problem to make appropriate jokes, as humor can
ease tensions in these stressful situations. But to insinuate that the
suggestions being made
Even
in Texas I can't tell you how many bats of what species we have in our
caves, because NO ONE IS DOING THAT RESEARCH. Even for the big,
popular
freetail caves that obviously contribute to our environmental well-
being
as well as our economic health, we only have a rough idea of numbers
This sounds like a great project idea, Jim!
Is there anything like this occurring?
Is this something the TSA could get involved in?
Sounds like a great program at the Convention, huh, Diane?
Mark
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From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Contact Meg Goodwin with the TPWD. She is the Texas Bat
Biologist. Even in here Houston there are several known bat roosts
that are monitored regularly by volunteers including me and some of
my students. There are two roosts within 3 miles of my home and
school.
There is also an educational
Meg has not worked for TPWD for about 2 years now.
From: wa5...@peoplepc.com [mailto:wa5...@peoplepc.com]
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 6:06 PM
To: TSA Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: heaters for bats
Contact Meg Goodwin with the TPWD. She is the Texas Bat
Thanks Jim, too bad, she is a great person. I have an alternative
person to contact for the lastest info. I'll get on that.
Later, ~F~
Meg has not worked for TPWD for about 2 years now.
From: wa5...@peoplepc.com [mailto:wa5...@peoplepc.com]
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 6:06 PM
To: TSA Cavers
http://darkfrontier.us/technology/
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Sent: Fri Mar 06 20:56:51 2009
Subject: [NMCAVER] Seamgrip for caving
the cave from pollution and development. Several of the cave's known
passages lie beneath the refuge.
_http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090306/ARTICLES/903065026/1011/NEWS?Title
=Cave-home-to-one-of-world-s-rarest-fish_
(http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090306/ARTICLES/903065026/1011/NEWS
100 uses of Seamgrip, the old caver standby. If it does all the things that
this says, it should be in the same class as duct tape and bailing wire.
http://mcnett.baron-co.com/images/editor/100Uses.pdf
- Jon Broholm
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Jon,
I am very concerned about you sharing secret male secret secrets with
non-males. I believe we may have to call a tribunal.
Ladies--please ignore Jon's demented blatherings about duct tape and bailing
wire. These products are have no use outside of taping ducts or bailing hay.
And there
yeah, what would we do if men stopped fixing things?
The recent male caver visitor I had from out east looked at me like I was crazy
when I mentioned JB Weld. now I know its just a conspiracy and he wasn't dumb.
argh, really I'll get back to packing and start driving soon Jon and Janae :)
In more traditional cultures, such as in the highlands of Papua New Guinea,
JB Weld is kept in the secret men's society hut with the sacred flutes, and
no woman is allowed to set eyes on any of these things. In fact, the women
are told that the sound of the flutes when they are played is actually
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