Re: [Texascavers] When flags are flying...

2009-03-24 Thread Nico Escamilla
Thomas You indeed got it a bit wrong, Ive always said that as long as you dont mess with the bad guys they will pretty much leave you alone at least thats how it works in places like this it might work a different way in border towns I'm not sure.. Getting kidnapped its a whole different animal, u

[Texascavers] When flags are flying...

2009-03-24 Thread Thomas Sitch
Interesting, I’m seeing and hearing two different things.   When it comes to the narco-traffickers and the violence I hear some folks saying something to the effect of “crime happens to other people,” “I went to Mexico and nothing bad happened, therefore there are no problems,” etc.   I consisten

Re: [Texascavers] Mexico 3

2009-03-24 Thread tbsamsel
Hell, there are folks who are afraid of living in parts of dirty S.A. for similar razones.. Anyone else read ASK A MEXICAN? He does youtube, ya ese!..   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpcmF-rKJHU   T.Mar 24, 2009 01:40:17 PM, gi...@worldnet.att.net wrote: At 01:24 PM 3/24/2009, shri...@cableone.n

[Texascavers] Mexico 3

2009-03-24 Thread Gill Ediger
At 01:24 PM 3/24/2009, shri...@cableone.net wrote: I agree with your statement, Gill. But, I do have to say that my uncle has lived in Harlingen for the last 30 years and he is now talking of moving to San Antonio because of all the trouble down there. They have had some drug war shootings do

[Texascavers] not just about caves 2

2009-03-24 Thread Gill Ediger
At 12:57 PM 3/24/2009, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Gill, the only thing is, everytime the list server gets too far off topic for too long, we see people leaving, others getting upset. Well, getting upset is its own punishment--so is going off-list. Things have been quiet around here and the list

Re: [Texascavers] not just about caves

2009-03-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Gill, the only thing is, everytime the list server gets too far off topic for too long, we see people leaving, others getting upset. Things have been quiet around here and the list has been slowly growing. There is a reason we setup the OT list, for the people who like to spam things to the main

Re: [Texascavers] Traval Advisory for Mexico 3

2009-03-24 Thread shri...@cableone.net
I agree with your statement, Gill.  But, I do have to say that my uncle has lived in Harlingen for the last 30 years and he is now talking of moving to San Antonio because of all the trouble down there.  They have had some drug war shootings down there as well.  He is worried and he never worries.

[Texascavers] not just about caves

2009-03-24 Thread Gill Ediger
At 12:42 PM 3/23/2009, bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: I completely agree that this is a virtual bonfire where we are all gathered and talking of different things that are of interest to cavers, not just about caves. I completely agree that this is a virtual bonfire where we are all gathered and t

[Texascavers] Traval Advisory for Mexico 3

2009-03-24 Thread Gill Ediger
At 02:17 PM 3/16/2009, Preston Forsythe wrote: Yap, out of control according to all of the news I see and read in the papers. I'd say avoid giving credibility to any information you receive through the popular media. They create misinformation both intentionally and unintentionally--but it's

[Texascavers] Travel Advisory for Mexico 2

2009-03-24 Thread Gill Ediger
At 11:22 AM 3/16/2009, Geary Schindel wrote: If you'll be traveling in Mexico, it might be a good idea to take some of the contact information located at the bottom of the advisory with you. I didn't read it yet but I just got back from 3 weeks in Mexico yesterday. Went in by myself through La

[Texascavers] Richard Smith

2009-03-24 Thread Sam Young
Richard Smith, who is known to some of you as one of the old timer UT grotto people has suffered a heart attack - two actually. We have had a difficult time getting information but this morning we got through to his sister who spoke to us from his bedside. He is in the ICU at Seton Hospital in