Re: [Texascavers] Re: PSN vs GPS

Reminds me of the old times when we set out to find some black hole in the El Abra based on aerial photos. If we were lucky, there was a topo map of the area but that wasn't a lot of help once you were on top of the range. You plotted out the best course based on the available maps and

Re: [Texascavers] New Thread - Over reliance on GPS is causing our brains to shrink

Isn't that why we have Google Maps, to exercise our hippocampusses?-Original Message- From: mark.al...@l-3com.com Sent: Dec 16, 2009 3:05 PM To: Gill Edigar , Stefan Creaser Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] New Thread - Over

[Texascavers] James River Bat Cave

A short article appeared in the MASON COUNTY HARD TIMES newspaper http://www.masoncountynews.com/news/article/16123

texascavers Digest 17 Dec 2009 18:54:44 -0000 Issue 925

texascavers Digest 17 Dec 2009 18:54:44 - Issue 925 Topics (messages 13059 through 13077): Re: Facebook 13059 by: Sheryl Rieck 13069 by: Rod Goke 13072 by: Rod Goke TSA project curious question 13060 by: Lyndon Tiu 13061 by: Gill Edigar 13062

[Texascavers] Caving with Wooden Hand Paddles

Here is a technique you may want to try in Honey Creek. From an internet Ad on the Yucatan-- I tend to remember vividly things that are new to me. And neither my girlfriend, Ginny, nor I had ever done anything like what we did at Xplor on the Riviera Maya. I suppose you'd call Xplor an

RE: [Texascavers] Facebook

Is that one on Snopes, too? -Original Message- From: Sheryl Rieck shri...@cableone.net Sent: Dec 16, 2009 6:30 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Facebook I confess. I laughed right out loud! Sheryl -Original

RE: [Texascavers] Facebook

Those of you interested in Facebook privacy issues might be interested in what Clark Howard said about it on his website, including a link to an article on this subject in The Financial Times of London. See: http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2009/12/15/17325/ Rod

[Texascavers] recent caver fatalities

It seems that the 2 recent caver fatalities could have been prevented if the novice caver that died had had some basic information about the cave hazards of that particular cave. I would propose that a list of Texas cave hazards be published on CaveTex or in the Texas Caver, or in a special

Re: [Texascavers] recent caver fatalities

Naw, David. There's a natural selection process in place that you shouldn't mess with. Let those fools remove themselves from the gene pool. You take on a great responsibility when you start putting up obstacles to their self-destruction and allow them to procreate. I could cite several examples.

RE: [Texascavers] recent caver fatalities

Gil, Hair color I can change, but you have to have something to work with first. LOL. Geary From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:18 AM To: David Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] recent caver

RE: [Texascavers] recent caver fatalities

And you can always nominate them for the appropriate category in The Darwin Awards. From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: gi...@att.net; dlocklea...@gmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:22:52 -0600 Subject: RE:

RE: [Texascavers] recent caver fatalities

I'm glad my once blonde hair is now gray/white. F. From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:55 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] recent caver fatalities And you can always nominate them for the

[Texascavers] a tentative caver party

I have an opportunity to host a caver party on the evening of May 22nd. The owners of a private camp have offered to let me use their beautiful 60 acres and their facilities for $ 250 for a 3 day weekend. This camp is something I have talked about before on Cavetex. It is just south of Lake

[Texascavers] Cave Tex and texascavers archives

29,860 messages sent to Cavetex and Texascavers since 1997, Wow! This one will make 29,861 total to date. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Tex and texascavers archives

I'm trying to cut down. --Ediger On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: 29,860 messages sent to Cavetex and Texascavers since 1997, Wow! This one will make 29,861 total to date. - Visit our

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

I have yet to have a piece of paper run out of batteries. On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Gill Edigar wrote: GPS is OK if you have coordinates, etc handy. But still not nearly as handy, while talking on the phone, as a pencil and a note in the margin: SB 37, Smithson exit, 1.2 m, L Concho St,

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

I don't know about y'all, but my NSS News Texas Caver live on the toilet tank for a few weeks as browsing material during my peaceful moments on the throne. I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Don's iPhone. On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.com

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

And after you've finished reading them on the toilet, how do use them? Just curious, but not sure we really want to know, Rod -Original Message- From: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com Sent: Dec 17, 2009 11:34 PM To: Cc: texascavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re:

[Texascavers] TSA project curious question

I suggested in the early days of the CBSP and other Projects that they charge everybody $1 every time. It's no burden on the caver but it builds up pretty fast when you have 20 or 30 cavers each time. There are always supplies and equipment that are needed: new surveying gear, ropes, GPS, map

[Texascavers] Why join TSA?

The question has come up before: Why should I join the TSA? The statement has been made: If it weren't for The TEXAS CAVER there would be no reason for me to be a TSA member. Both questions are destined to be asked again--and fairly soon, I think. Yet way before publication of The TEXAS CAVER was

RE: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

As I have stated on more than one occasion, with or without The Caver, there are numerous reasons that being a TSA member is worth much more to me than the annual dues. It is mostly the enjoyable times spent with other cavers with like interests and a love of the outdoors. If you aren't already

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Gill, I'm a current TSA, TCMA and NSS member, as well as member of 4 grottos. I didn't join the TSA because of the newsletter, and the same way with the NSS or the others. I enjoy the newsletters, but that's not why I'm a member. I joined all of the above organizations to help them monetarily,

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Thanks there, Wokka. That's exactly what I'm looking for. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Gill, I'm a current TSA, TCMA and NSS member, as well as member of 4 grottos. I didn't join the TSA because of the newsletter, and the same way with the

RE: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Why do I get the feeling you have decided this many times, and many years ago? And does this mean we are taking this discussion off the list for awhile? From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:11 PM To:

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Better yet--if I volunteer to pay your dues, Gill, will you just join the TSA and stop writing really long email messages that clog up my inbox? Diana On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Why do I get the feeling you have decided this many times, and many years ago? And does

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Well, I have my own reasons for supporting the TSA for 40 years, but I was hoping to develop some positive reasons that other cavers join the TSA. I already know why I belonged and will again, but I have had a hard time getting other cavers to tell me why and what they would tell new cavers were

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

Oh, it's not about the money, Diana. Remember that I'm gonna make a further $100 donation when I do rejoin. It's about making a positive change in Texas caving. But don't forget to consider that when I join the TSA I might just be compelled to write even more really long email messages since I

Re: [Texascavers] Why join TSA?

I'll pay half, Diana. Diana Tomchick wrote: Better yet--if I volunteer to pay your dues, Gill, will you just join the TSA and stop writing really long email messages that clog up my inbox? Diana