[Texascavers] foremost caver

2010-02-21 Thread Mixon Bill
David, I actually followed one of your links. Nobody claimed the person was _the_ state's foremost caver. The article merely said he was _one of_ Alaska's foremost cavers. That could mean anything, especially considering how many cavers there are in Alaska. I could come up with names of

Re: [Texascavers] foremost caver

2010-02-21 Thread Don Cooper
I thought Foremost was pretty good milk. -WaV On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: David, I actually followed one of your links. Nobody claimed the person was _the_ state's foremost caver. The article merely said he was _one of_ Alaska's foremost cavers.

Re: [Texascavers] cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Matt Turner
Though not a surprise to anyone who knows me. I definitely would not have a problem with someone carrying a gun with them to a cave. Would I?  Probably not mainly from a logistical problem. I don't think as many cavers as you think have problems with guns. I mean just this weekend at See my

[Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Minton
While it might conceivably be useful to carry a gun _to_ a cave entrance (although not in my personal 40+ years experience), I cannot see any reason at all to carry a gun _into_ a cave. Firing a gun in a cave would risk serious personal injury due to the dangers of ricochet, not to mention that

RE: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Linda Palit
Might make a good mystery/shoot-'em-up book. From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@illinoisalumni.org] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:08 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns While it might conceivably be useful to carry a gun _to_ a cave entrance

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Fofo
Hmm, this is a good chance for mentioning this. A California caver just published a book that, yup, involves a gun in a cave. You can find it in Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/ygvllxr (and you'll see Bill Mixon's review of it at the page in Amazon) - Fofo Linda Palit wrote, on 21/2/10

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Don Arburn
Where the Sun Dont Shine by Fred L. Wefer Don's iPhone. On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Linda Palit lkpa...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Might make a good mystery/shoot-‘em-up book. From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@illinoisalumni.org] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:08 PM To:

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread JerryAtkin
Back in the day, Ronnie Fieseler carried a handgun with special wax bullets to use in cave entrances in case he encountered the odd rattlesnake. Worked quite well as I remember. The bullets had a good bit of hitting power yet melted on impact into harmless liquid that wouldn't ricochet

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Cobb
I have been caving in Arizona with cavers who carried guns while caving. It seems that other cavers are not too friendly to cavers they find in those caves that no one speaks of. Hopefully Texas won't get that way. Um, actually, I have never been caving in Arizona because they have no

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Pete Lindsley
Well, actually I have seen a few rattlers in caves and they occasionally rattled me a bit. Reloaders know that you can substitute #9 shot for the single big bullet and make your own loads like Ronnie's wax bullets. (Commercial Rat shot in a .22 rimfire doesn't do much and only makes them

Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave guns

2010-02-21 Thread Rod Goke
Yes, Jerry. I, too, remember Fieseler carrying a small handgun for snakes near cave entrances during a caving trip in west Texas back in the late 1980s. As best I can remember, the gun was a small revolver, probably a snub nose 38, loaded with some kind of ammo appropriate for shooting snakes at

[Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave trips March 13 and April 3

2010-02-21 Thread speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers, On February 13 we had a great turnout of properly equipped and spirited cavers to help deliver cave diving gear to the upstream HS sump, six hours of travel from the shaft entrance, of our state's longest cave. Thanks again to everyone who was there. However, we

Re: [Texascavers] a caver in the news

2010-02-21 Thread speleosteele
So how does one become recognized as a state's foremost caver? My guess would be by actually going in caves and not just talking about it. Bill David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This news article is from Saturday: http://www.sitnews.us/0210news/021810/021810_caving.html So

Re: [Texascavers] a caver in the news

2010-02-21 Thread Barb Coons (Capocy)
Hey David, Thanks!! Steve is a great friend of ours and indeed, an awesome caver (as is his wife Rachel). We've been missing them this season in Hawaii - they normally come on our for a few weeks to map lava tubes but this year things got a little quirky. Barb Coons -- Original

Re: [Texascavers] a caver in the news

2010-02-21 Thread Nico Escamilla
Amen! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:22 AM, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote: So how does one become recognized as a state's foremost caver? My guess would be by actually going in caves and not just talking about it. Bill David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This news article is from

texascavers Digest 21 Feb 2010 19:41:35 -0000 Issue 979

2010-02-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Feb 2010 19:41:35 - Issue 979 Topics (messages 13758 through 13783): Re: Lemons Ranch Cave 13758 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com 13762 by: Brian Riordan Bad air caves 13759 by: David 13760 by: Brian Riordan 13761 by: Stefan Creaser