texascavers Digest 14 Jun 2010 06:56:06 -0000 Issue 1080

2010-06-13 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 14 Jun 2010 06:56:06 - Issue 1080 Topics (messages 15112 through 15120): Re: carbide vs LED (attempt 2) 15112 by: Bill Walden 15113 by: Chris Vreeland 15114 by: Don Cooper Carbon Dioxide and Low Oxygen in Texas Caves. 15115 by: SS 1

Re: [Texascavers] a cave question

2010-06-13 Thread JerryAtkin
Using metal strips or tags was once a popular method of marking stations in Texas caves. You can still find them in some of the caves that were surveyed back around the 1960s. I still use colored aluminum tags for permanent stations that I want to easily relocate. Jerry. In a message

Re: [Texascavers] Carbon Dioxide and Low Oxygen in Texas Caves.

2010-06-13 Thread JerryAtkin
Elevated CO2 is a common occurrence in Texas caves with the highest levels typically being found in caves developed in the Ellenburger or Austin Chalk formations. Both of these formations have low permeabilities, and it is conjectured that this impedes the ability of CO2, once it accumulate

[Texascavers] caver music ?

2010-06-13 Thread David
Is this a French version of the Terminal Siphons ? http://musikplease.com/theant-sporto-kantes-speleology-11470 Whatever, it is they stole the idea from the old Buck Rogers movie ( 1979 ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHG29QjqYZ8&feature=related

[Texascavers] a cave question

2010-06-13 Thread David
I have a question, or questions. Do cavers still place numerical metal tags at caves? Do any caves still have the old metal tags around them ? My memory seems to recall seeing a round tag a little bigger than a quarter with a number on it at a cave I once went to. I can't remember if I saw that

[Texascavers] more new LED stuff

2010-06-13 Thread David
There are a bunch of new LED flashlights and headlamps to talk about, but the only one really interesting to me is this one: http://www.brightguy.com/products/Energizer_Night_Strike_Handheld_Light_3AA_ENSHH31L.php I played with it at Gander Mountain today. I think they wanted $ 77 for i

[Texascavers] Carbon Dioxide and Low Oxygen in Texas Caves.

2010-06-13 Thread SS
Someone ought to post more on this subject because of the potential for Hazardous levels of Carbon Dioxide in many areas of Texas. We seem to have been blessed with a lot of karst (Ellenberger primarily) prone to generating high levels of CO2 in the warmer months. I can tell you that it can certa

Re: [Texascavers] carbide vs LED (attempt 2)

2010-06-13 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Phillip, what client do you use to do email? Swiching to text only (turning off HTML or RTF modes) may resolve the problem. Charles Sent via C=64 Mobile On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Philip L Moss wrote: Mark Alman wrote: "Wow, after reading all of these near-death incidents caused by or

Re: [Texascavers] carbide vs LED (attempt 2)

2010-06-13 Thread Don Cooper
Very similar experience in Midnight cave about 12 years ago on an aborted trip. I was first down. It seemed awful dank from the beginning but near touchdown on the garbage pile, it got so bad I was having trouble breathing - I could "feel" hyperventilation coming on . (No CO2 monitor, no lighter

Re: [Texascavers] carbide vs LED (attempt 2)

2010-06-13 Thread Chris Vreeland
The only time I ever rappelled into Deadman's hole, I had an experience like this. I went down slowly, expecting possible co2 because the caves in the Ellenberger in that area are known for it, but still, I was very surprised by how stratified it was. Where I stopped on rope when the air st

Re: [Texascavers] carbide vs LED (attempt 2)

2010-06-13 Thread Bill Walden
While surveying a cave in southern Kentucky years ago, well decades ago, I developed a headache. After a few more shots down and into a room with a huge pile of rotting leaves, my carbide lamp started acting up. For some reason I climbed up high and onto a ledge to change carbide. The lamp still

texascavers Digest 13 Jun 2010 13:22:10 -0000 Issue 1079

2010-06-13 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 13 Jun 2010 13:22:10 - Issue 1079 Topics (messages 15107 through 15111): Pennsylvania cave rescue 15107 by: David 15108 by: David [texascavers] Mexican Gang Takes Gas Well 15109 by: Simon Newton a cave web-site from England 15110 by: David

Re: [Texascavers] carbide vs LED (attempt 2)

2010-06-13 Thread Philip L Moss
Mark Alman wrote: "Wow, after reading all of these near-death incidents caused by or around carbide, it makes me wonder why anyone would consider not switching to 100% LED use! Mark Well, I could quibble about whether or not carbide caused all the incidents or whether the propane leak might h

[Texascavers] a cave web-site from England

2010-06-13 Thread David
I am only posting this because the web-site below shows some of the interesting cultural differences between cavers over here and cavers in places like England: http://www.darfarpc.org.uk/ Note some of the language differences, like "Rob broke through into 2m of open draughting passa

[Texascavers] [texascavers] Mexican Gang Takes Gas Well

2010-06-13 Thread Simon Newton
Looks like the Mexican gangs are diversifying... http://www.pennenergy.com/index/petroleum/display/9399672301/articles/pennenergy/petroleum/exploration/2010/06/armed-men_take_control.html June 10, 2010 By Phaedra Friend Troy According to a report