Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
There may be no hibernating bats now in CaCa, but it absolutely does not rule out the use of the cave by other species who do hibernate. There are a number of caves in the Guads where bats will do a stopover for one or a few nights, despite their roosting in another cave. And in at least one in

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
There may be no hibernating bats now in CaCa, but it absolutely does not rule out the use of the cave by other species who do hibernate. There are a number of caves in the Guads where bats will do a stopover for one or a few nights, despite their roosting in another cave. And in at least one in

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
There may be no hibernating bats now in CaCa, but it absolutely does not rule out the use of the cave by other species who do hibernate. There are a number of caves in the Guads where bats will do a stopover for one or a few nights, despite their roosting in another cave. And in at least one in

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread William Tucker
There is a colony of Fringed Myotis of approximately that size that hang around near Lake of the Clouds at the back of Left Hand Tunnel - the deepest known part of the cave. Though a hibernating species, they are there in the summer months and are not hibernating. Cave Myotis can also be found t

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread William Tucker
There is a colony of Fringed Myotis of approximately that size that hang around near Lake of the Clouds at the back of Left Hand Tunnel - the deepest known part of the cave. Though a hibernating species, they are there in the summer months and are not hibernating. Cave Myotis can also be found t

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread William Tucker
There is a colony of Fringed Myotis of approximately that size that hang around near Lake of the Clouds at the back of Left Hand Tunnel - the deepest known part of the cave. Though a hibernating species, they are there in the summer months and are not hibernating. Cave Myotis can also be found t

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread jen .
I had Stan introduce me to the biologist a few years ago and she stated that there are no hibernating bats in Carlsbad Caverns. There is a book from the 50's that stated there were hibernating bats, but she told me it was wrong. If you have any references to hibernating bats in NM, plea

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread jen .
I had Stan introduce me to the biologist a few years ago and she stated that there are no hibernating bats in Carlsbad Caverns. There is a book from the 50's that stated there were hibernating bats, but she told me it was wrong. If you have any references to hibernating bats in NM, plea

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread jen .
I had Stan introduce me to the biologist a few years ago and she stated that there are no hibernating bats in Carlsbad Caverns. There is a book from the 50's that stated there were hibernating bats, but she told me it was wrong. If you have any references to hibernating bats in NM, plea

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
It is my understanding that there used to be, perhaps still is, a small hibernating colony in Carlsbad Cavern. Species I'm not sure of, but numbers ranged from 150 to under 300. Enough of them (>30) to qualify for BLM's closure list. Since CaCa is managed by NPS, and since they gain gobs of fe

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
It is my understanding that there used to be, perhaps still is, a small hibernating colony in Carlsbad Cavern. Species I'm not sure of, but numbers ranged from 150 to under 300. Enough of them (>30) to qualify for BLM's closure list. Since CaCa is managed by NPS, and since they gain gobs of fe

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Evatt
It is my understanding that there used to be, perhaps still is, a small hibernating colony in Carlsbad Cavern. Species I'm not sure of, but numbers ranged from 150 to under 300. Enough of them (>30) to qualify for BLM's closure list. Since CaCa is managed by NPS, and since they gain gobs of fe

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
The more I stare at that paragraph, the more I think it's a general statement about show caves. I've heard owners of some of them complain about the bad publicity over cave closures and the public thinking they are closed, calling the cave and asking if they're open, or worse, calling the

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
The more I stare at that paragraph, the more I think it's a general statement about show caves. I've heard owners of some of them complain about the bad publicity over cave closures and the public thinking they are closed, calling the cave and asking if they're open, or worse, calling the

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
The more I stare at that paragraph, the more I think it's a general statement about show caves. I've heard owners of some of them complain about the bad publicity over cave closures and the public thinking they are closed, calling the cave and asking if they're open, or worse, calling the

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Kenneth Ingham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 Their last paragraph reads: Experts said white-nose syndrome has hurt cave in the East that use bats as tourist attractions. They said it could have a similar effect on Carlsbad Caverns if the disease reaches New Mexico. It sounds li

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Kenneth Ingham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 Their last paragraph reads: Experts said white-nose syndrome has hurt cave in the East that use bats as tourist attractions. They said it could have a similar effect on Carlsbad Caverns if the disease reaches New Mexico. It sounds li

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread Kenneth Ingham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 Their last paragraph reads: Experts said white-nose syndrome has hurt cave in the East that use bats as tourist attractions. They said it could have a similar effect on Carlsbad Caverns if the disease reaches New Mexico. It sounds li

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
Really. That last statement puzzled me. What cave are they talking about? Peter Quoting Kenneth Ingham : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 I cannot figure how they got their last paragraph (the one Jen complained about) from anything anybody said at the meeting last night. I

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
Really. That last statement puzzled me. What cave are they talking about? Peter Quoting Kenneth Ingham : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 I cannot figure how they got their last paragraph (the one Jen complained about) from anything anybody said at the meeting last night. I

Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media

2013-02-07 Thread wnsliaison
Really. That last statement puzzled me. What cave are they talking about? Peter Quoting Kenneth Ingham : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 I cannot figure how they got their last paragraph (the one Jen complained about) from anything anybody said at the meeting last night. I