Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-21 Thread Mark Minton
I've seen two examples of ropes left in caves near flowing water becoming completely encased in calcite. The first was a rope I had left hanging in a small waterfall in Spring Creek Cave. When Bill Steele went back there about 20 years alter, the rope had a calcite coating up to a qua

[Texascavers] Report just in from British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
News just in from the British expedition to Sistema Huautla: The divers are back on the surface after a week spent camping on the far side of the two long sumps located at the bottom of the cave system. They found about 1.5 km of new passage and the Sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450m in at

texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 -0000 Issue 1726

2013-03-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 - Issue 1726 Topics (messages 21477 through 21490): Re: NSS News 21477 by: Mimi Jasek 21484 by: Geary Schindel Re: BOG proposal to end printed NSS News 21478 by: Louise Power 21480 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 2148

[Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks for the update, Bill. A pretty hardcore dive. Too bad it didn't turn up more dry borehole. And the new depth of Huautla ends the weirdness of Cheve being #1 and Huautla #2 based on a difference of only 9 meters in depth, when neither survey was likely to have been that accurate. A de

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: "Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive." Appears it was Jason Mallinso

[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

2013-03-21 Thread Marvin and Lisa
There will be no project at Government Canyon SNA in the month of April. I will be at the spring convention on the first weekend of the month, tending the map salon and giving an update to the project as one of the presentations. Hope to see everyone there. The next trip will take place on the 2n

[Texascavers] The 19th TCC CAVE DAY - April 13, 2013

2013-03-21 Thread mikewaustin
On Saturday, April 13, 2013, the Texas Cave Conservancy will host our 19th Public Education tours to Avery Ranch Cave & Dies Ranch Treasure Cave. We expect to have 500 to 600 visitors at each cave. The Dies Ranch Indian Shelter Cave will also be available. If you can come out to t

[Texascavers] caves in the news

2013-03-21 Thread David
I have no idea if this month old story below has been on this forum or any others. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16962764-cave-full-of-weapons-discovered-by-california-deputies?lite http://brightcove04.o.brightcove.com/13293232001/13293232001_1962605222001_8561B5365FE84D0B9F53EEE380B

[Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Gill Edigar
What Mixon said! But rather than complain and take measures which will decrease membership even further I offer an all too simple solution to solve it--and that lies in the Grottos. From where I sit I can see an NSS membership that is growing old and Grotto activity mirrors that. Traditionally, Gro

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Mimi Jasek
As usual, Gill, you have hit the nail squarely on the head, and voiced issues of membership that I mentioned to Bill Putnam, NSS Director of Membership and Fundraising I think. When I started caving, joining the TSA and the NSS were two things that were pretty much expected to really embrace t

Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-21 Thread Mark Minton
I've seen two examples of ropes left in caves near flowing water becoming completely encased in calcite. The first was a rope I had left hanging in a small waterfall in Spring Creek Cave. When Bill Steele went back there about 20 years alter, the rope had a calcite coating up to a qua

[Texascavers] Report just in from British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
News just in from the British expedition to Sistema Huautla: The divers are back on the surface after a week spent camping on the far side of the two long sumps located at the bottom of the cave system. They found about 1.5 km of new passage and the Sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450m in at

texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 -0000 Issue 1726

2013-03-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 - Issue 1726 Topics (messages 21477 through 21490): Re: NSS News 21477 by: Mimi Jasek 21484 by: Geary Schindel Re: BOG proposal to end printed NSS News 21478 by: Louise Power 21480 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 2148

[Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks for the update, Bill. A pretty hardcore dive. Too bad it didn't turn up more dry borehole. And the new depth of Huautla ends the weirdness of Cheve being #1 and Huautla #2 based on a difference of only 9 meters in depth, when neither survey was likely to have been that accurate. A de

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: "Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive." Appears it was Jason Mallinso

[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

2013-03-21 Thread Marvin and Lisa
There will be no project at Government Canyon SNA in the month of April. I will be at the spring convention on the first weekend of the month, tending the map salon and giving an update to the project as one of the presentations. Hope to see everyone there. The next trip will take place on the 2n

[Texascavers] The 19th TCC CAVE DAY - April 13, 2013

2013-03-21 Thread mikewaustin
On Saturday, April 13, 2013, the Texas Cave Conservancy will host our 19th Public Education tours to Avery Ranch Cave & Dies Ranch Treasure Cave. We expect to have 500 to 600 visitors at each cave. The Dies Ranch Indian Shelter Cave will also be available. If you can come out to t

[Texascavers] caves in the news

2013-03-21 Thread David
I have no idea if this month old story below has been on this forum or any others. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16962764-cave-full-of-weapons-discovered-by-california-deputies?lite http://brightcove04.o.brightcove.com/13293232001/13293232001_1962605222001_8561B5365FE84D0B9F53EEE380B

[Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Gill Edigar
What Mixon said! But rather than complain and take measures which will decrease membership even further I offer an all too simple solution to solve it--and that lies in the Grottos. From where I sit I can see an NSS membership that is growing old and Grotto activity mirrors that. Traditionally, Gro

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Mimi Jasek
As usual, Gill, you have hit the nail squarely on the head, and voiced issues of membership that I mentioned to Bill Putnam, NSS Director of Membership and Fundraising I think. When I started caving, joining the TSA and the NSS were two things that were pretty much expected to really embrace t

Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-21 Thread Mark Minton
I've seen two examples of ropes left in caves near flowing water becoming completely encased in calcite. The first was a rope I had left hanging in a small waterfall in Spring Creek Cave. When Bill Steele went back there about 20 years alter, the rope had a calcite coating up to a qua

[Texascavers] Report just in from British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
News just in from the British expedition to Sistema Huautla: The divers are back on the surface after a week spent camping on the far side of the two long sumps located at the bottom of the cave system. They found about 1.5 km of new passage and the Sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450m in at

texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 -0000 Issue 1726

2013-03-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Mar 2013 18:46:23 - Issue 1726 Topics (messages 21477 through 21490): Re: NSS News 21477 by: Mimi Jasek 21484 by: Geary Schindel Re: BOG proposal to end printed NSS News 21478 by: Louise Power 21480 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 2148

[Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks for the update, Bill. A pretty hardcore dive. Too bad it didn't turn up more dry borehole. And the new depth of Huautla ends the weirdness of Cheve being #1 and Huautla #2 based on a difference of only 9 meters in depth, when neither survey was likely to have been that accurate. A de

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: "Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive." Appears it was Jason Mallinso

[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

2013-03-21 Thread Marvin and Lisa
There will be no project at Government Canyon SNA in the month of April. I will be at the spring convention on the first weekend of the month, tending the map salon and giving an update to the project as one of the presentations. Hope to see everyone there. The next trip will take place on the 2n

[Texascavers] The 19th TCC CAVE DAY - April 13, 2013

2013-03-21 Thread mikewaustin
On Saturday, April 13, 2013, the Texas Cave Conservancy will host our 19th Public Education tours to Avery Ranch Cave & Dies Ranch Treasure Cave. We expect to have 500 to 600 visitors at each cave. The Dies Ranch Indian Shelter Cave will also be available. If you can come out to t

[Texascavers] caves in the news

2013-03-21 Thread David
I have no idea if this month old story below has been on this forum or any others. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16962764-cave-full-of-weapons-discovered-by-california-deputies?lite http://brightcove04.o.brightcove.com/13293232001/13293232001_1962605222001_8561B5365FE84D0B9F53EEE380B

[Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Gill Edigar
What Mixon said! But rather than complain and take measures which will decrease membership even further I offer an all too simple solution to solve it--and that lies in the Grottos. From where I sit I can see an NSS membership that is growing old and Grotto activity mirrors that. Traditionally, Gro

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Membership

2013-03-21 Thread Mimi Jasek
As usual, Gill, you have hit the nail squarely on the head, and voiced issues of membership that I mentioned to Bill Putnam, NSS Director of Membership and Fundraising I think. When I started caving, joining the TSA and the NSS were two things that were pretty much expected to really embrace t