texascavers Digest 16 Sep 2013 16:05:00 -0000 Issue 1845

2013-09-16 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 16 Sep 2013 16:05:00 - Issue 1845 Topics (messages 22693 through 22697): Discovery Well Cave Preserve Insident 22693 by: Mike Walsh 22694 by: Don Cooper 22695 by: Leslie Bell Re: Solo Caving 22696 by: Louise Power Re: [SWR] Guadalupe

[Texascavers] book review: 1850s book on Postojnska Grotto

2013-09-16 Thread Mixon Bill
John Oliver's Postojnska Jama of 1856, with an introduction by Trevor Shaw. ZRC Publishing House, Ljubljana, Slovenia; 2013. ISBN 978-961-254-472-0. About 16.5 inches wide by 11.7 high, 183 pp. Free 73 MB PDF file from www.zrc-sazu.si/en/node/. This is a color photographic reproduction of

[Texascavers] Traditional Remote Observation Vehicles

2013-09-16 Thread Josh Rubinstein
Ahh, the stories. I once had a certain kind of madness named Tony Hopkins as my digging partner. He had the bad judgement to bring his eight year old son along with us. As happens often, I came to a place were I could see beyond. I could smell it. I could taste it. But, i just couldn't fit.

texascavers Digest 16 Sep 2013 22:17:11 -0000 Issue 1846

2013-09-16 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 16 Sep 2013 22:17:11 - Issue 1846 Topics (messages 22698 through 22709): book review: 1850s book on Postojnska Grotto 22698 by: Mixon Bill Re: Solo Caving 22699 by: Bill Bentley 22700 by: Diana Tomchick 22701 by: James Jasek 22702

[Texascavers] solo cave sitting

2013-09-16 Thread Mixon Bill
When she was living and caving in Belize, I have the impression that Barb MacLeod was into staying alone in a cave for a day or so as a sort of sensory deprivation, mind-altering experience. This is based mainly on her 1973 song Forever on a Flowstone Moëbius Strip, which wraps up: Turn

Re: [Texascavers] solo cave sitting-Barb MacLeod

2013-09-16 Thread Logan McNatt
On 9/16/2013 6:47 PM, Mixon Bill wrote: When she was living and caving in Belize, I have the impression that Barb MacLeod was into staying alone in a cave for a day or so as a sort of sensory deprivation, mind-altering experience. This is based mainly on her 1973 song Forever on a Flowstone

[Texascavers] Re: last message links

2013-09-16 Thread Logan McNatt
Sorry, looks like those links don't work. Just go to Mesoweb and search for keywords. http://www.mesoweb.com Original Message Subject:[Texascavers] Re: solo caving, cave meditation Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:32:45 -0500 From: Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com

texascavers Digest 17 Sep 2013 00:47:19 -0000 Issue 1847

2013-09-16 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 17 Sep 2013 00:47:19 - Issue 1847 Topics (messages 22710 through 22717): Re: Solo 22710 by: Jim Kennedy 22711 by: Pete Lindsley 22715 by: James Jasek solo cave sitting 22712 by: Mixon Bill Forever on a Flowstone Mo�bius Strip

[SWR] Fwd: Guadalupe Mountains National Park News Release - Storm Closure Update

2013-09-16 Thread Carol Belski
Begin forwarded message:From: "Pierce, Karl" karl_pie...@nps.govSubject: Guadalupe Mountains National Park News Release - Storm Closure UpdateDate: September 13, 2013 4:48:57 PM MDTTo: undisclosed-recipients:;Bcc: bels...@valornet.comNational Park Service Guadalupe Mountains400

[Texascavers] Re: solo caving, cave meditation

2013-09-16 Thread Logan McNatt
Forwarded on behalf of Barbara MacLeod: These were carefully-planned experiments in sensory isolation, set far into a familiar but then seldom-visited, beautifully decorated cave that was used by the Classic Maya to propitiate earth and rain gods. Ancient human bones and pottery were found

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread Louise Power
Was it 10 hours because you were having a good time or because you couldn't find your way out? From: ca...@caver.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:42:32 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Solo Caving Done a whole bunch in Amazing Maze Cave back in the mid 80's.

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread Bill Bentley
Pure Fun! - Original Message - From: Louise Power To: Bill Bentley ; texas cavers Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: Solo Caving Was it 10 hours because you were having a good time or because you couldn't find your way out?

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
I don't get much time to discuss caving with people where I work, but last week I had someone in my office that was admiring the Speleoprojects postcards I had posted on my outer door (I save these from their calendar every year, and post them in rotation as my mood changes). It turned out that

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread James Jasek
Thank you for the interesting history of you past and early caving years. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Diana Tomchick diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu wrote: I don't get much time to discuss caving with people where I work, but last week I had someone in my office

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread Phil Winkler
Many, many years ago (1973?) I was in Waynesville MO over the Christmas holiday on leave from the Army. I didn't know any cavers there anymore, but did want to visit Christmas Cave which is listed in J. Harlan Bretz' Caves of Missouri. Since it was a horizontal cave I figured I could at least

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread James Jasek
Thanks. Cool account if the solo trip. Made me feel as if I was there. This is more or less the type if cave I was asking about as to a easy cave to do a solo trip. Others have contributed solo trips I feel are well beyond what I was asking about. Being alone in the water crawl is an easy

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread Amy Jasek
It isn't *really* solo, but the only time I have been in the cave at Kiwi I explored a little by myself. One of the diggers working inside was kind enough to tell me what to expect. I headed for an upper room and ended up belly crawling in wet muck - I was so hungover I felt like I was going to

Re: [Texascavers] Solo Caving

2013-09-16 Thread James Jasek
Thank you. I raised you right. I was there when you crawled into this hell hole of mud in tight breakdown in Kiwi. Your mom and me were helping with the dig. When you came you told me not to go in there. You were covered in wet mud Your father :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:24

Re: [SWR] Flooding in New Mexico

2013-09-16 Thread Louise Power
Not surprising since they're under the same weather conditions as Colorado. I think it's supposed to go on for another week. From: ma_orm...@msn.com To: s...@caver.net Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:42:05 -0500 Subject: [SWR] Flooding in New Mexico So here in West Texas we've seen several

[Texascavers] Solo

2013-09-16 Thread dirtdoc
Solo   I have found this to be a rather interesting thread.   James' question, which started all this, was What is the general feeling regarding solo caving?   That seems to have morphed into Why would anyone go caving alone?   And finally into folks actually describing some

Re: [Texascavers] Solo

2013-09-16 Thread Jim Kennedy
Personally, I think this would make a good essay for The TEXAS CAVER. Jim (Who has his own tales of solo caving, but chooses not to add fuel to the fire. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: Well said... Bill - Original Message -

Re: [Texascavers] Solo

2013-09-16 Thread Pete Lindsley
Well, that statement brings back a fond memory, again way deep in Proctor Cave, now connected to Mammoth Cave. Our survey team did the crawl, the 160' drops, the inner-tube assisted swim in wetsuits across Hawkins River deep spot, and a day's long survey of virgin passage. At the end of the