No, but I caved in NM.
> From: dgda...@nyx.net
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:31:26 -0600
> To: s...@caver.net
> Subject: Re: [SWR] BLM reopens Wyoming's Natural Trap Cave
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> Louise Power wrote:
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> >Apparently you don't remember me=2C but I remember you from when I was cavi=
> >ng in TX. I worke
generation. Any recommendations on the best model for a
caver/backpacker/river runner to buy? And is any particular model or brand
better for use in Mexico?
Thanks,
Frank
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George -- You can still purchase the eTrex Vista HCx (new ones).
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From: George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers
To: Frank Binney ; TexasCavers
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] GPS recommendation?
I've owned many GPS units.
I've owned many GPS units. I think my all-time favorite was the original
grey Garmin eTrex Vista. Unfortunately I broke it during a trip to China.
Lately I've using a Garmin Oregon. It's a few years old now. I'm not
terribly impressed with the color and touch display. It always seems
washed o
I agree with John, Garmin is great for price, ease of use, and accuracy.
Jerry.
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On Jul 25, 2014, at 6:55 PM, via Texascavers
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> Frank -- We've used at least a couple of dozen models all over the world (and
> still use 4 different ones every day), and my favorite is
Frank -- We've used at least a couple of dozen models all over the
world (and still use 4 different ones every day), and my favorite is still
the Garmin eTrex Vista HCx (color). I certainly like it better than all
the new stuff. Mavis prefers the Rino 655t, for the radio, and I still
prefer the
There are many international papers and scientific studies on this
subject of Radon and caves; two
of the more applicable to Carlsbad Cavern are shown below. I remember
seeing an early SW Caver issue that
was from a masters thesis on Radon daughters and their origins.
Watkins and Wilkening 1976
ld expect radon levels to be very low along the tour
route while that cold-trap circulation is going on. Did the people doing
the monitoring say how significant were the levels they found?
--Donald
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I¹ve decided it¹s finally time to abandon my luddite ways and join the GPS
generation. Any recommendations on the best model for a
caver/backpacker/river runner to buy? And is any particular model or brand
better for use in Mexico?
Thanks,
Frank
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From CJ Elron (nee Rushin): I did my Master's research in Natural Trap Cave in 1972 (Barry Fuller was on my crew). There is a copy of the
resulting thesis at the University of Montana, and there was a copy at the BLM field office in Cody. Natural Trap was gated not long after I
finished my wor
>I remember now the name of that cave near Cody that I visited with John
>Corcoran and Sandy Szerlip in 1969. It was Spirit Mountain Cave. Does
>anyone know if that one is radioactive as well?
>
>Lee Skinner
I don't know, but that's an interesting question, since Spirit Mtn.
Cave is in t
dirt...@comcast.net wrote:
>Daughters of Radon - following the Natural Trap thread
>
>
>The monitoring in Carlsbad started around 1975 or 1976. The discovery of
>high levels of radon in Carlsbad Caverns caught all the federal cave
>management folks off guard. The "Daughters of Radon" concern re
Louise Power wrote:
>Apparently you don't remember me=2C but I remember you from when I was cavi=
>ng in TX. I worked on several of the TSA projects in the area. I moderated =
>the discussion between cavers=2C other conservationists=2C and NPS when the=
>y were talking about putting the tram in t
I don't think the picture went through earlier, it does plays a role in it but
there are definitely other reasons because surrounding states like Missouri,
Illinois, Michigan and Nebraska, all much lower levels. It has to do with how
much radon is able to escape from the ground. I am not a geolo
Donald,
I don't remember when the first radon measurements were done at CaCa, but there
was no mention in the USGS Microclimate study report done by the USGS (John
McLean) at CaCa in 1968-1970 and published in May 1971.
I recall being told in the early 1970s that the highest radon level measu
Is the reason "the most dangerous place to live in the US is Iowa" due to the
fact that most houses in the Upper Midwest have full basements that get used
extensively as living spaces?
Diana
**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics
Because people seem to be interested in this topic I've included a few pictures
followed by a copy and paste from the EPA's page on lung cancer incidence and
Radon exposure in homes, but cancer is indiscriminate so if your exposure comes
from the office, your basement, your cigarettes (which con
I worked there summers 1976-1978 while I was in school at Texas Tech (Park
Admin & Landscape Architecture), and during Xmas holidays in, I think, 1977. I
don't know when CaCa started monitoring radon, but Kay Rohde did it when I was
there. She'd go through each section with her monitor which had
Daughters of Radon - following the Natural Trap thread
The monitoring in Carlsbad started around 1975 or 1976. The discovery of high
levels of radon in Carlsbad Caverns caught all the federal cave management
folks off guard. The "Daughters of Radon" concern resulted in the first ever
Cave Man
Louise Power wrote:
>You know=2C when I worked at Carlsbad Caverns=2C one of the techs came thro=
>ugh several times a day with a device that sampled the air for radon. There=
> were four separate areas in the Caverns which were monitored--entrance pas=
>sage=2C interior rooms around the Queen's
Alex,
Lee, what do you know of the recent history of Natural Trap?
I visited Armpit in 1974. The grate was in place, but one could get
the key from the BLM office in Cody. I bounced Natural Trap, in the
company of Barry Fuller, the unofficial 'mayor' of Armpit. (Anybody
know what became of
You know, when I worked at Carlsbad Caverns, one of the techs came through
several times a day with a device that sampled the air for radon. There were
four separate areas in the Caverns which were monitored--entrance passage,
interior rooms around the Queen's Chamber, The Big Room, and the lunc
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:
> Charles,
> Can you explain?
>
> Thanks,
> B
Charles,
Can you explain?
Thanks,
Bill
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Just an FYI to everyone, I've made a change to the mailing list
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"Ormsby, Matthew A" wrote:
>Carl, your question just posted, there are completely different guidelines
>for mining uranium as well. It's said caves breathe, mines don't. If
>that's true there is air exchange and subsequently radon removal in caves
>(which leads to consistent levels of radon- n
Greetings fellow Cavers.,
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So I've been debating on if I should reply to this or not because what seems
like a simple question has a very complicated answer. First, I don't know
anything about the cavers mentioned but I do know about radiation and legal
exposure limits. Geiger Counters are all different and have different
Thanks Donald. The thread is excellent. The Wyoming Caves there apparently are
hot-radioactive, at least some, according to the thread. I still wonder about
the mining of uranium up there. I had gone there with June Golaz, and I think,
Rich Wolfert. Paha Sapa Grotto was part of the trip, along w
Carl Pagano wrote:
>Don't know. I heard rumors that the reason that Holy Sheep was open only =
>to one trip a year was because the geiger counter had registered either =
>max, or close to it. Paha Sapa Grotto in Wyoming would have a better =
>idea, but I was hoping that someone here, including Do
Don't know. I heard rumors that the reason that Holy Sheep was open only to one
trip a year was because the geiger counter had registered either max, or close
to it. Paha Sapa Grotto in Wyoming would have a better idea, but I was hoping
that someone here, including Donald Davis, could give some
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