Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Many cavers and spelunkers could afford considerably more than $25. F Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > "If 500 cavers came up with $25 each there you go." Charlie, that's $12,500. > If you can find a good TCR site for that, I might buy

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Find the right place and I would contribute. The Blanco near Wimberley would be ideal. Fritz Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > That works for me too. Find a nice place and buy it. If every caver chipped > in $10 and there are at l

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Bracketville is Not close for me And the pecan pollen made me sick with sinus attack for a couple of weeks! On Jan 7, 2015 10:07 PM, "Fritz Holt via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > I'm with Charles. The convention held at Ft. Clark several years ago was > the best and the are

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
I'm with Charles. The convention held at Ft. Clark several years ago was the best and the area had everything. What a beautiful paradise. Some may think it is too far west but it is worth the drive. It would also encourage more participants from the western parts of the state. Fritz Holt fritz.

[Texascavers] "traditional" date of TCR

2015-01-07 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
It was generally the third weekend in October so as to avoid, as has been pointed out, the TAG Fall Cave-in, which is the Columbus Day weekend. Columbus Day is the second Monday in October. That would put TCR on the third full weekend unless the first of October is a Sunday or Monday. Regar

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Allan B. Cobb via Texascavers
Gill, you should know better. You should never say never. I always used the third weekend of October. It was easy to find on a calendar and easy to remember. The only time I changed it was because of a conflict with PC. Allan From: Gill Ediger via Texascavers Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
And electricity, Gill. At least for the cooks. The cooks want water and electricity. And gas if you have it. That's gas as in gas, and not gasoline. Why can't you people use "petrol", it makes a nice distinction. Grr, two peoples separated by a common language. -Stefan From: Texascavers [ma

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
Even without water PC is better than anyplace else without water. Actually, I prefer Flat Creek at the all-around best site we ever had. It's still available but needs to be reserved early. One of the main criteria for a site is running water. Find 10 or 20 acres with river (or creek) frontage

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers
My wife and I just spent a few days in the lodge at Paradise Canyon. We keep in regular contact with the owners, and even help them out from time to time when they need someone to run the place for a day or two. So we know there is actually a spring fed pool in the riverbed that is about 200' x

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
For everybody's benefit: The traditional date for TCR was not the 3rd weekend in October--and never had been. Disabuse yourselves of that idea. It was "the weekend nearest to the 15th of October." Mostly it was the 3rd weekend of the month but sometimes it claimed the 2nd weekend. There were 2 o

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Keep it on the weekend of October 15-18. I loved the TCR that was held at Honey Creek Cave, but Paradise Canyon is cool, too. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biophysics 5323 Ha

Re: [Texascavers] TCR Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Frank via Texascavers
Hey Don-- Thanks again for all the hard work you do to make TCR a success. (And thanks also to Allan, Andy, Gill and other past organizers). I love Paradise Canyon--with or without water-- even though it will be more difficult to land the helicopter there. 2nd choice would be Flat Creek, followe

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Used to be James Strickland was the patron of Flat Creek but he retired so who knows who is in charge. I am sure Strickland would know, he was at the first TCR at Luckenbach. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, trog...@hotmail.com < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Land it in the dry creek bed F

[Texascavers] caving in Slovenia

2015-01-07 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
If you enjoyed the reports about exploring deep caves in Slovenia in the January NSS News, you'd also like a book I reviewed back in 2008. Can't beat the free PDF, although you do have to fill in data like you're establishing an account to get it. I've updated the price below for the printe

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Heather Tucek via Texascavers
I like the third weekend. PC is my favourite spot. At least on the registration side of things, we have a fantastic little hutch that we can lock papers etc. right at the entrance, and wouldn't have to station outside a bathroom like we did last year. The issue that I see with moving it to the 2nd

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread trogdog
Land it in the dry creek bed Frank, I vote 15-18th at Flat Creek Ranch. Ryan Monjaras "Semper Exploro" Maverick grotto Cowtown grotto DFW grotto UT grotto Bexar grotto Greater Houston Grotto TSA TCMA Sent from my HTC EVO 3D ___ Texascavers mailing lis

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Frank Binney via Texascavers
Hey Don-- Thanks again for all the hard work you do to make TCR a success. (And thanks also to Allan, Andy, Gill and other past organizers). I love Paradise Canyon--with or without water-- even though it will be more difficult to land the helicopter there. 2nd choice would be Flat Creek, followed b

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Weston via Texascavers
What about Krause Springs? There hasn't been a TCR there since the 80's according to the cavetex site. Any reason? Weston On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Saj Zappitello via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > I actually prefer having TCR somewhere different each year, or at leas

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Saj Zappitello via Texascavers
I actually prefer having TCR somewhere different each year, or at least some sort of rotation. Keeps it interesting. PC is not my favorite, but it works. Third weekend in Oct sounds good. (Rockin' the boat...) ~Saj ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://te

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
NOAA has posted a map on the general drought forecast through March 2015 at http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/seasonal_drought.pdf. The Paradise Canyon area is listed as “Drought remains but improves” surrounded by nearby areas of “Drought removal likely.” Looking at NOAA’s

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
"If 500 cavers came up with $25 each there you go." Charlie, that's $12,500. If you can find a good TCR site for that, I might buy it myself.--Mixon A fearless man cannot be brave. You may "reply" to the address

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
I already have 11ac in Bastrop. A few work weekends with lots of people should make it TCR habitable ;-) -Stefan From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Loving via Texascavers Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:06 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [T

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers
Paradise Canyon, Oct 15-18 Thanks for asking, Don. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 1/7/2015 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote: Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and sp

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Michael Harris via Texascavers
I prefer the week before. The 15 had a lot of conflicting events for me. PC is as good as any. Mike Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Don Arburn via Texascavers Date:01/07/2015 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TSA Cavers List Subje

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
That works for me too. Find a nice place and buy it. If every caver chipped in $10 and there are at least five or six that I know of there would be a great stash of dollars. If 500 cavers came up with $25 each there you go. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:56 AM, via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
Hope she does not mind sitting in the back seat next to a cranky toddler. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > TC ? > > > > All Mal needs to do is get to Houston and you can drive her from there, > Lyndon… > > > > -Stefan > > > >

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
I like earlier weekend And always liked paradise canyon or flat creek ranch On Jan 7, 2015 11:02 AM, "Stefan Creaser via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > TC ? > > > > All Mal needs to do is get to Houston and you can drive her from there, > Lyndon… > > > > -Stefan > > > > *Fro

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
TC ? All Mal needs to do is get to Houston and you can drive her from there, Lyndon… -Stefan From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:58 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Sur

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
TC please. Lots of trees. More shade if hot. More wind breakers if cold. Mal's bday is Oct. 16 ... so that's a vote for that weekend. Provided we can convince Mal to drive all the way from La for this ... On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com>

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread via Texascavers
All, I wrote this to Allan back in ’10 and still stand by it. Keep it at the same location and weekend henceforth. Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com From: Alman, Mark @ EOS Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:07 AM To: Allan Cobb S

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
I like Bracketville myself. It is close to my house. It has swimming and water and a hotel for the codgers and there are dozens of caves nearby. The NSS Convention went off well there. We also did Chalk Bluff once and got drowned out. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Carl Kunath via Texascavers
Don: Paradise Canyon is the hands-down favorite for me and for nearly everyone I know. The lack of water is inconvenient but doubtless a temporary condition. Last year’s site had water but it was so distant and inconveniently placed that it was a non-issue for nearly everyone. October 15-18 is

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I like Paradise Canyon. Water would be nice, but I don't spend any time boating or fishing so it is not a deal killer for me. My two cents worth. Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Ok, Cavers,

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Joe Ranzau via Texascavers
El Jefe - Keeping things consistent has its appeals for the more anal retentive of us in the group. I support the third weekend of October for the date. Water is always nice at a site but not a requirement. Some of the folks from outside San Antonio and Austin might appreciate a site closer to

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
From a cooking perspective I like PC as it has water and power a-plenty. Date-wise, if it was the w/e of the 23-25th then I won't cook, or turn up at all. There's your chance... Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of

[Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and spread the word that if we have any need for a meeting site, he'd be happy to help. We all like PC, but they still have no water. It's not a deal ki