Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
I got your "mic drop", how about something CAVING. Boom. --Don > Also, for Texas cavers it sounds like signing emails is a bigger issue then > zika. Just saying. > -gp ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com |

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread George-Paul Richmann via Texascavers
Smallpox. Mic drop on anyone anti vax. Also, for Texas cavers it sounds like signing emails is a bigger issue then zika. Just saying. -gp On May 24, 2016 10:21 PM, "Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: Malaria is a parasite not a virus, different bird. We ac

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers
Malaria is a parasite not a virus, different bird. We actually do pretty good job developing resistence to chickenpox, hence vaccination program wasn't deemed viable until 1990s. And vaccines aren't harmless - no autism significance as of now - but small but real possibility of demyelinating pr

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Not on every mail reader. Not on my iPhone, until I attempt reply. --Don > On May 24, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers > wrote: > > A thread of 17 messages so far and I see every sender's name, such as "Crash > Kennedy via Texascavers" at the top of the email. (Yes, my signature

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Scott Boyd via Texascavers
A thread of 17 messages so far and I see every sender's name, such as "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" at the top of the email. (Yes, my signature follows.) Scott D. Boyd GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR Professional Transportation, Inc. On May 24, 2016 8:16 PM, "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" < texasca

Re: [Texascavers] Unsigned Posts

2016-05-24 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
Actually, the headers on most of the recent Texascaver posts do give the name of the sender. For instance Jim Kennedy's showed up in my inbox as "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" (see reply header below). What is _not_ shown is the sender's email address, so it's not possible to reply personally -

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Crash Kennedy via Texascavers
But CaveTex strips out the senders name, so it just shows up as being from texascavers.com. Therefore, if you (and everyone else) fails to put your name at the end of your posting, none of us know the author. It's a common courtesy. Jim Kennedy > My full name is in my email. I haven't used a

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
The remailer for texascavers doesn't show it unless replied to. --Don > My full name is in my email. I haven't used a .sig since the '90s. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-a

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Develop resistance in the same way that we’ve done with malaria and chickenpox? Thanks goodness for vaccines and anti-malarial drugs…which are still being developed, due to problems with resistance. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers
Slow learner. Wow. I guess you don't know me very well. The third plague was lice/gnats/flees (depending on your translation of Hebrew). Look up Exodus 8:16. It's not a great leap of logic to figure that could have led to the diseases of the later plagues. My full name is in my email. I have

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers
Your medical industrial complex is wanting you to write them a 1.9 billion dollar check for initial funding for Zika virus research and prevention. Or about 40 dollars for each of those households paying taxes. Few billion will follow every year from now on until story is forgotten by public 10

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Reply to yet another unsigned post by a slow learner. I'm no Biblical scholar, but I don't think insects had anything at all to do with the ten plagues of Egypt, except, for course, for the locusts that were themselves one of them. Check your Old Testament. Until fairly recently (nineteenth cen

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers
>It is interesting that there is no mention of scary mosquitoes in any of the >religious text even though they are believed to have predated all hominids Perhaps not by specific name, but you might want to read about the 10 plagues of Egypt. Biting insects lead up to diseased livestock, boils, a

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread David via Texascavers
It is interesting that there is no mention of scary mosquitoes in any of the religious text even though they are believed to have predated all hominids. There is a common story about a giant immortal invisible talking snake that travels the Earth faster than the speed of light talking telepathical

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Just because you’ve already procreated doesn’t mean everyone else has, Rafal Kedzierski. It’s ironic that you should be against more research, given your background. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry U

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers
Yes, living is scary and it ends in death, funny how that goes. Every new scary story just needs 'mo money' for 'mo research'. For that we just need 'mo taxes'. Look, when every potential mother aquites immunity, more than likely maternal fetal infections will cease. Sometimes you don't need no

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
Bloody Texan's and their educations... (or is that "Bloody Texins and thur edumcation"?) Your suit would be, in this context, "Don's" (facepalm). Stefan Creaser Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA. Direct: +1-512-314

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
What about my suit? --Don > On May 24, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > (Dons fireproof suit) ;-) ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
This is in fact what the Ministry of Health in El Salvador recommended back in January. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/world/americas/el-salvadors-advice-on-zika-dont-have-babies.html?_r=0 Diana >> Try telling a potential parent that Zika is something not to worry about and >> see how far t

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
> Try telling a potential parent that Zika is something not to worry about and > see how far that argument gets you. Perhaps we should tell people in Zika infected countries to not get pregnant? (Dons fireproof suit) ;-) Stefan Creaser Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM 5707 Sout

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
> Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 mothers > infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k people die in > traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K in India. Malaria kills 1 > million people a year. Yes, but not every virus causes probl

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Amen brother. It's not like this is a new issue or that it's never been mentioned before... --Don Arburn > On May 24, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers > wrote: > > Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know > who posted all this good informati

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Jim Kennedy via Texascavers
Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know who posted all this good information. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > > Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have Zika > related illness when they are exposed. It's not 'spirali

Re: [Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers
Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have Zika related illness when they are exposed. It's not 'spiraling out of control' - it's new to North America, yes. It's likely one of many illnesses that go through populations and become part of the infectious tapestry that we

[Texascavers] Zika

2016-05-24 Thread via Texascavers
Zika Update on the overview of the Zika Virus from Scientific American, May 24, 2016. May be of interest to those of you caving in the affected areas. Pregnant women are at risk ether from mosquitoes or unprotected sex with an infected partner. How Zika Spiraled Out of Control Th

Re: [Texascavers] speleo-statistics, mortgages, etc.

2016-05-24 Thread Jill Orr via Texascavers
Great idea David! how about you writing it? On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:52 AM, David via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > A creative caver could devote a whole Texas Caver issue with > interesting articles > on the subject matter of statistics associated with caving, and the NSS