[Texascavers] hydrogeology question

2018-07-04 Thread David
Relating to the cave in Thailand, where the rescue is ongoing. The cave is up in the mountains above the rice fields, but not near the top of the mountain surface ( at least not at the entrance ) Somewhere above the level of water in the cave in Thailand must be a water source such as a spring o

Re: [Texascavers] Thank you, Pete

2018-07-04 Thread David
oops https://www.cavetexas.org/photos/TCR2009/Kunath/PeterAtTheRiver.JPG https://www.cavetexas.org/photos/tcr2007/images/Heuss/KH-2007-18-0178.jpg ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.

[Texascavers] Thank you, Pete

2018-07-04 Thread David
Here are some links to pictures of Pete ( from just a simple Google search ) https://www.cavetexas.org/photos/tcr2007/images/Heuss/KH-2007-18-0003.jpg https://www.cavetexas.org/photos/tsa200904/images/lindsley/DSC_2145_1024x685.jpg https://www.cavetexas.org/photos/tsa200904/images/lindsley/DS

[Texascavers] caver appreciation

2018-07-04 Thread David
Here is something you don't see everyday. Caver, Robert Harper, getting the royal red-carpet treatment at Thailand airport https://www.msn.com/en-xl/asia/other/thai-cave-rescuer-robert-harper-boards-plane-home-from-bangkok-airport/vi-AAzBbpK He probably might feel the attention is a little exag

[Texascavers] LIVE News web site on Thailand Cave rescue

2018-07-04 Thread Lee H. Skinner
The following site has continuous LIVE updates om the Thailand cave rescue: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/05/thailand-cave-rescue-thai-free-boys-football-soccer-team-monsoon-rain-live Lee Skinner At the time of this email it had the following, and you can scan down more on

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread Denise P
>From Facebook: Here are the only details I've seen: "Husband. Father. >Stepfather. Grandpa. Caver. Party Planner. Hot-tub Guy. Peter was known and >loved by many. After a decade-long battle with cancer, he passed away in his >home on Tuesday, July 3rd, surrounded by family. A celebration of his

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread Bill Steele
Or any if not. > On Jul 4, 2018, at 8:50 PM, speodes...@gmail.com wrote: > > I will look Bill, but don't remember one exactly like that. > > William R. (Bill) Elliott > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Diana Tomchick > wrote: > > ​Pete had been battling cancer for several

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread speodesmus
I will look Bill, but don't remember one exactly like that. William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote: ​Pete had been battling cancer for several years. This was announced on Facebook earlier today. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread Diana Tomchick
?Pete had been battling cancer for several years. This was announced on Facebook earlier today. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2227414880608994&id=10215102495&comment_id=2227641227253026¬if_id=1530734319602113¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic? Diana *

[Texascavers] more Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread David
The web-article below has a detailed chronological account of the ongoing story in the news. I do not know how accurate it is. http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/live-updates-teenager-football-team-trapped-thai-cave/ It would nice if a caver could put together a similar article written for a

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread William R. Elliott
I had a similar reaction, Mark. I have no information yet, as I live in Missouri. I will miss Peter Strickland very much. I deeply appreciate the photos he contributed for AMCS Bulletin 26, recently published. I hope cavers will have a look at those, and many other wonderful photos by and of our s

Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland

2018-07-04 Thread Mark Minton
I was astonished and saddened to read the message below. I had heard nothing about Pete's passing. When/how did this happen? Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Wed, 4 Jul, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Underground Texas Grotto wrote:   Due to weather, the grotto is no longer officially floating Town Lake

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto "Meeting" July 4th

2018-07-04 Thread Underground Texas Grotto
Due to weather, the grotto is no longer officially floating Town Lake. Feel free to go, and let us know how it was. Instead we will be holding a toast to our late friend Pete Strickland at the Posse East. On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 12:07 Underground Texas Grotto wrote: > Greetings Cavers, > If you're

[Texascavers] an interesting news presentation

2018-07-04 Thread David
Imagine it done this way in English on a USA channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsS8zuV82Eg Notice he said "Happy Birthday" as one of the boys celebrated his 14th birthday. This is not a Thai news channel but one of the other Asian networks, but appears to be broadcasted to Thai viewer

[Texascavers] more Thai caving

2018-07-04 Thread David
One Thai news channel showed this video to explain to their viewers how incredibly difficult it would be for the boys to scuba-dive out of the cave https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=143&v=WtlwoX1YEmg Here is a food product to look for if you find yourself in Thailand http:/

Re: [Texascavers] more rants about Thai Caves

2018-07-04 Thread David
I never claimed to be an expert on anything, especially Thai caves. ( expect maybe, how to break things ) I am learning big fancy words from watching these videos. I never heard the word "brilliant," used in the way the British divers used it. Brilliant has never been a word in my vocabulary.

[Texascavers] Latest rescue reports - July 4

2018-07-04 Thread Lee H. Skinner
The many news reports about the cave rescue have much conflicting information and inconsistencies. Here are some of the latest: To keep water levels as low as possible, teams of soldiers and other rescuers have been pumping water out and building weirs across creeks to divert water away from

[Texascavers] Interesting about the Thailand rescue

2018-07-04 Thread Bill Steele
I went to high school with a foreign exchange student from Thailand. She lives in the USA. She just sent this: Quoted from The Nation Newspaper, Bangkok: It is not known why the team ventured into the cave, but they had been there before -- some of the boys knew it well. They went into the ca

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Charles Loving
Yes. Many thanks for the effort. The whole story is fascinating. Lots of questions as to why these kids did what they did? On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this > rescue effort. You’ve made it considerabl

Re: [Texascavers] more rants about the cave in Thailand

2018-07-04 Thread Charles Loving
What has made Bockbeer an expert of Thailand and cave rescue? His comments are inane. Maybe he needs to get in the Sequoia and head for Thailand to give an on the secne report instead of his rambling. He sounds like Sean Hannity. OK that is it, no more picking on Bockbeer. On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Penelope Boston
Dear all, I also hope that this ongoing potential tragedy that we hope becomes a joyous rescue can be used as a teaching moment. The 25 year old coach is to be commended for taking his kids on field trips but his obvious lack of understanding of how caves work in monsoon season is responsible f

Re: [Texascavers] 50 Years in a heartbeat

2018-07-04 Thread trevans
Great photo, Carl...and yes, my heart is still beating! ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascav

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
Having been a caver in the Guads for 49 years, I can say that there have not been a lot of issues of flooding of our caves to the point where they might cause some serious problems. That does not mean that the caves won’t flood, just that the number that are likely to are pretty limited. Vanis

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
It’s probably all going downstream, meaning their rescuers had to swim right through it. Talk about a shitty job…. > On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > Thanks, Peter. > > > I'm wondering how they're handling sanitation and human waste. Haven't seen > anything about that

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] The rescue attempt is far from over in the Thai cave

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this rescue effort. You’ve made it considerably easier to find the latest, most important details about the rescue. It certainly is far from being over with, but at least there is support for the teens and those who risked t

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Thai cave rescue: Missing soccer team found alive

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Jones
GREAT NEWS!!! It could still be a long time before they can actually get all the victims out of the cave if the waters remain as high as they are. Nonetheless, they must be extremely relieved. Peter > On Jul 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/02/a