When was the last time you saw this much attention to someone that died in
a cave ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6fxU3SEiY4
One thing not being reported in the news is that it has now been close to
15 days since the boys
probably spent any time with their mommies. I can't go a week wi
a cave diving animation for non-cave-divers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KDih-WyODA
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And after the last day’s reports of low O2, we found out that the Thai cave air
pocket where the boys are located is likely not being refreshed with cave air,
so there are likely sumps on both sides of their chamber. This fact, plus the
unfortunate death of the Thai Seal Team diver, is illustrat
Thanks Pete. At least it would be possible to drill a rescue portal if needed
– and lots of places to stay above water.
Regards,
John
From: swrcav...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Pete
Lindsley
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:13 PM
To: John Lyles
Cc: Peter Jones ; Geary Schindel
; Penelope
But Ft. Stanton Cave in NM is definitely a place to be careful. Far south on
Snowy River was being pushed and mapped in 2014, and by August it began
flooding. Midnight Junction camp hasn't seen cavers since then, although we
are hoping the present drying trend remains at least until fall there
We were stranded in Deep Cave in Carlsbad Caverns NP when a heavy line of
thunderstorms turned the entrance drop into a raging waterfall. We heard a roar
from the back of the caveand returned to the drop to investigate. To our
consternation, our rope was in the middle of a huge waterfall. We
In Fort Stanton Cave the Aug 2014 team found that the water was very slowly
flowing towards them when they were about halfway to MJ, and there was no
danger here. It took about a month for the flow to reach Turtle Junction, an
easy mile from the entrance. We may be able to determine if the Mud L
Yes. Many thanks for the effort. The whole story is fascinating. Lots of
questions as to why these kids did what they did?
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
> Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this
> rescue effort. You’ve made it considerabl
Dear all,
I also hope that this ongoing potential tragedy that we hope becomes a joyous
rescue can be used as a teaching moment. The 25 year old coach is to be
commended for taking his kids on field trips but his obvious lack of
understanding of how caves work in monsoon season is responsible f
Having been a caver in the Guads for 49 years, I can say that there have not
been a lot of issues of flooding of our caves to the point where they might
cause some serious problems. That does not mean that the caves won’t flood,
just that the number that are likely to are pretty limited. Vanis
Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on this
rescue effort. You’ve made it considerably easier to find the latest, most
important details about the rescue. It certainly is far from being over with,
but at least there is support for the teens and those who risked t
Penny,
Yes, we’re trying to get our message out as most caves don’t respond to
rainfall like this one does. However, we have had our share of rain induced
tragedies and close calls in the US.
I’ve spent a lot of time looking at major rain events and collected some very
interesting hydrograph d
Thanks, Geary.
I guess it almost goes without saying that the is biggest and most
complicated cave rescue in the world ever, unless you know of another
one. I'm sure movies about it are already in the works. A tragedy was
averted, but it's still daunting. If they drill a shaft, and assuming
Lee,
I also wanted to say that your feeds are the latest and most up to date on the
situation. Thank you for sharing them.
The NSS has had a number of calls from the media regarding this issue. I've
directed calls first to Anmar Mirza who is the National Coordinator for the
National Cave Rescu
I was wondering the same thing!
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 11:30 AM Lee H. Skinner wrote:
> Thanks, Peter.
>
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> I'm wondering how they're handling sanitation and human waste. Haven't
> seen anything about that.
>
>
> Lee
>
>
> On 7/3/2018 10:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
> > Just wanted to say “thank you
Thanks, Peter.
I'm wondering how they're handling sanitation and human waste. Haven't
seen anything about that.
Lee
On 7/3/2018 10:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
Just wanted to say “thank you”, Lee, for keeping us all up to date on
this rescue effort. You’ve made it considerably easier to fin
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