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From: Charles Goldsmith
To: Kara Savvas
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:25:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
I hate to see you go, when I get fed up around here, I just quit
reading for a while :) I filter these emails into their own folder,
so read when I want to, out of sig
I hate to see you go, when I get fed up around here, I just quit
reading for a while :) I filter these emails into their own folder,
so read when I want to, out of sight, out of mind otherwise.
texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com and ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com
Good luck and come back soo
me all that terribly anyway :-) life goes on
Kara
- Original Message
From: Charles Goldsmith
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: "Texascavers@texascavers.com"
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:25:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Constructive criticism is needed, how you p
Thank you for the support
Charles
On 1/16/08, Geary Schindel wrote:
> Charles,
>
> I wanted to say thank you for all your hard work on the Texas Cavers
> list server. I know that most of this work is behind the scenes and
> commonly goes unrecognized and unappreciated. However, Texascavers
> pr
Charles,
I wanted to say thank you for all your hard work on the Texas Cavers
list server. I know that most of this work is behind the scenes and
commonly goes unrecognized and unappreciated. However, Texascavers
provides an important service to Texas cavers by acting as a forum to
discuss issue
If they can't take the heat, they should get out of the kitchen! Take
that statement, apply the delete key and move on. Most people don't
seem to get that, so if this solution works, great. I'm glad George
suggested it again, last time I offered to do it, no one spoke up in
favor.
On 1/16/08, D
Let's just give it some time and see. So far I really like it.
This said - I use GMAIL only for cavetex and now ot-cavetex. This makes it
just about perfect.
I have to say I feel a little victorious in this. There were people who got
pissed off in a major way because I foolishly weighed in on my
z Holt
> Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
>
> Constructive criticism is needed, how you present that can go a long
> ways towards how it will be received. I don't know how Texas Cavers
> are perceived, I've always lived here a
Charles,
Thanks for the thankless job that you do.
Fritz
-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:25 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Constructive criticism
Constructive criticism is needed, how you present that can go a long
ways towards how it will be received. I don't know how Texas Cavers
are perceived, I've always lived here and been around us, but I've
never heard bad things from other groups.
Are we a bit on the wild side, well yeah, but most
: wesley s; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Like almost all aspects of this entire group you have the ones who work
and the ones who complain about the way the job is done. I have a delete
button just like everyone else and I use it quite a bit. Just how m
Like almost all aspects of this entire group you have the ones who work and the
ones who complain about the way the job is done. I have a delete button just
like everyone else and I use it quite a bit. Just how many people subscribe to
cavetex??? How many people write stuff on cavetex (not that
d are again. Strange I know, we are both too hard headed to live
> > with each other, but make great friends.
> >
> > Say howdy to Diana for me.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Louise Power
> > Date: Jan 15, 2008 11:44 AM
> >
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> From: Louise Power
> Date: Jan 15, 2008 11:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
> To: Charles Goldsmith
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Boy, Wes is way out of line. I, personally, think you've shown remarkable
> restraint through this whole brouhaha and
were good friends before being
> married, and are again. Strange I know, we are both too hard headed to live
> with each other, but make great friends.
>
> Say howdy to Diana for me.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Louise Power
> Date: Jan 15,
Thanks for your support
Charles
On 1/15/08, Nancy Weaver wrote:
>
> charles thank you for one of the few reasoned responses to any of
> this hoo haa. Good Lord what a bunch of sourpusses we've become. As
> the author of two of the three actual caving posts in who knows how
> long - I'll be damn
charles thank you for one of the few reasoned responses to any of
this hoo haa. Good Lord what a bunch of sourpusses we've become. As
the author of two of the three actual caving posts in who knows how
long - I'll be damned if I'm going to let others dictate my posts.
geess the sound of
Thanks, Charles.
_
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:21 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Not a problem Fritz, you are now added, send emails to
o...@texascavers.com
On 1/15/08, Fritz Holt <
Don,
Can't you spell? They are winers. Oops, I'm not on the OT list yet.
F
-Original Message-
From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:16 PM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
O.K. gang quit wasting time, energy
;
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:46 PM
> *To:* Fritz Holt
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
>
>
>
> Thank you the support Fritz and I personally enjoy your wit on the mailing
> list, please do j
O.K. gang quit wasting time, energy and effort on this. Get me a
picture of a Toyota caving Action shot. It's on topic and for the
common good. Ya buncha whiners!!!
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Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
To unsubscribe
fe say's that
I sure can't take instructions.
Fritz, (Using the geezer excuse).
_
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:46 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Thank you the support Fritz and I
>>>Perhaps those individuals who simply want to have wild, broad discussions
>>>about anything and everything would be better served by a separate listserv
>>>but I hardly think they are a large enough group to sustain a separate list.
>>>Consequently they will come back and continue posting OT
rom:* Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:59 AM
> *To:* wesley s
> *Cc:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
>
>
>
> Wes, this mailing has never been moderated, even long before I vo
gt; *Charles Goldsmith * wrote:
>
> Maybe we both are in a bad mood :) I didn't see your posting until I sent
> mine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Linda Palit"
> To: "wesley s" ; "Texascavers@texascavers.com"
> Sent: 1/15/2008 10:42 AM
I had to pull the archives down, my software wasn't hashing or hiding the
email addresses properly and someone complained. I tried out the google
group archiving of an external email list, but they have similar problems.
No one has asked for archives, but I do have them in the google groups.
They
with each other, but make great friends.
Say howdy to Diana for me.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Louise Power
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Jan 15, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
To: Charles Goldsmith
Hi Charles,
Boy, Wes i
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> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:59:10 -0600
> From: wo...@justfamily.org
> To: mudmal...@hotmail.com
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
>
> Wes, this mailing has never been moderated, even long before I volunteered
> to host it.
Hi Charles,
Boy, Wes is way out of line. I, personally, think you've shown remarkable
restraint through this whole brouhaha and I commend you for it. You chastized
me once for a political comment and I took that to heart.
You may be interested to know that I found out yesterday from Don Coop
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Hold on.
Are we trashing our unpaid volunteers who make "Cavetex" possible?
Maybe this is a joke and I am missing it.
Maybe we have a new volunteer to take over the duty of being a moderator
Man oh Man...
Good thing I am busy and don't have time to jive in... I agree with
you whole hartedly and those rules were left overs from the
origination of cavetex with Tom White after he set everything up...
One thing I was wondering if you had a link on Texascavers.com to the
archives.
org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:59 AM
To: wesley s
Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Wes, this mailing has never been moderated, even long before I
volunteered to host it. Back when Bill Bentley asked for a volunteer to
take over it, I'm prett
mine.
-Original Message-
From: "Linda Palit"
To: "wesley s" ; "Texascavers@texascavers.com"
Sent: 1/15/2008 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Hold on.
Are we trashing our unpaid volunteers who make "Cavetex" possible?
Maybe this is a jo
Maybe we both are in a bad mood :) I didn't see your posting until I sent mine.
-Original Message-
From: "Linda Palit"
To: "wesley s" ; "Texascavers@texascavers.com"
Sent: 1/15/2008 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OTtex vs. Cavetex
Hold on.
Ar
Charles,
I want to tell you that Wes is young and does not understand the word
"volunteer" well. But upon thinking about it, I don't think there is any
excuse for his comments.
so let me just say -Many thanks for what you do.
Linda
Charles Goldsmith wrote: Wes, this mailing has never
been
Wes, this mailing has never been moderated, even long before I volunteered
to host it. Back when Bill Bentley asked for a volunteer to take over it,
I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who did volunteer. I host this list
out of my own pocket, I'm not paid to do it, and it certainly does cost me
Hold on.
Are we trashing our unpaid volunteers who make "Cavetex" possible?
Maybe this is a joke and I am missing it.
Maybe we have a new volunteer to take over the duty of being a moderator.
Solutions are not composed of "somebody should" -- either I volunteer to
help___ or nothing makes m
Divisive to
say the least! This is like a political party schism. The attempt to purge the
unwanted instigators will only weaken the group as a whole and create more
animosity on the part of the fence sitters who stayed out of the argument but
generally support the system. This is a really half a
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