RE: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-21 Thread Fritz Holt
This BB Brain doesn't watch BBC. Fritz From: Ted Samsel [mailto:tbsam...@infionline.net] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:13 PM To: Fritz Holt; Don Cooper; Philip L Moss Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Fritz: With China

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2008-07-21 Thread speleosteele
@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Fritz: With China, India and **Russia** demanding more oil and gasoline, the supply can't keep up The Russkies are making mega rubles with the oild gas, BTW.. and selling it to the Euros... doncha watch BBC? T

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2008-07-19 Thread Ted Samsel
Fritz: With China, India and **Russia** demanding more oil and gasoline, the supply can’t keep upThe Russkies are making mega rubles with the oild gas, BTW.. and selling it to the Euros... doncha watch BBC? T. http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/

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2008-07-18 Thread Fritz Holt
: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health benefits and rent, including paid utilities were only $500 a month. Basically, you can

Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-18 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:27:39 -0500 fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: Wavy, I guess I only qualify as a Butt Head as I drive a 210 HP Ford Exploder that only gets 20 MPG highway. Your 20MPG Exploder is very good. Compare that to a certain caver's 13MPG Jeep! How did I get that 13MPG number?

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2008-07-18 Thread Fritz Holt
Lyndon, We all have to make sacrifices for our pleasures. Fritz -Original Message- From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:45 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:27:39 -0500 fh

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2008-07-18 Thread Don Cooper
*To:* Philip L Moss *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health benefits and rent, including paid utilities were

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2008-07-18 Thread Fritz Holt
...@gmail.commailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:43 AM To: Philip L Moss Cc: texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making

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2008-07-18 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:51:24 -0500 fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: Lyndon, We all have to make sacrifices for our pleasures. Fritz I made the sacrifice willingly and I had lots of fun. -- Lyndon Tiu - Visit our website:

[Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-18 Thread Geary Schindel
Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related to the price of gas and caving. Has the price of gas changed your caving habits? Are you still caving as much but closer to home or are you caving less frequently but on longer trips. Have you switched to a smaller vehicle or are you

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2008-07-18 Thread Bill Bentley
Answers IN CAPS below Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related to the price of gas and caving. Has the price of gas changed your caving habits? YES Are you still caving as much but closer to home or are you caving less frequently but on longer trips. NO Have you

Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-18 Thread Lyndon Tiu
My observation: People are now asking for carpooling opportunites rather than driving alone without asking if others are making the same trip. On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:19:38 -0500 gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related to the price of

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2008-07-18 Thread mark . alman
themselves or genealogy talk, we'll be OK. Later, Mark A. -Original Message- From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices My observation: People are now asking for carpooling

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2008-07-18 Thread mark . alman
Good quiz, Geary. I'll answer below: -Original Message- From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:20 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related

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2008-07-18 Thread Lyndon Tiu
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:12 -0500 mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: As long as they enjoy listening to SRV and don't beat me down with stories about themselves or genealogy talk, we'll be OK. ... or talk about religion and politics? -- Lyndon Tiu

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2008-07-18 Thread mark . alman
: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Wavy, My skin is thick but I didn't take it personally anyway. None of us feel that we are the culprit. Fritz

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2008-07-18 Thread mark . alman
I don't mind that, Lyndon. Although, my blood pressure may rise and I may accidentally drive us into tree. Mark -Original Message- From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:40 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas

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2008-07-18 Thread Geary Schindel
@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:12 -0500 mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: As long as they enjoy listening to SRV and don't beat me down with stories about themselves or genealogy talk, we'll be OK. ... or talk about religion and politics? -- Lyndon Tiu

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2008-07-18 Thread Diana Tomchick
OK, I'll bite. On Jul 18, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related to the price of gas and caving. Has the price of gas changed your caving habits? No, the balance of time to be spent on family/work/caving is the limiting factor

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2008-07-18 Thread Terry Holsinger
:* Friday, July 18, 2008 12:43 AM *To:* Philip L Moss *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health benefits and rent

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2008-07-18 Thread Charles Goldsmith
And why is that? I don't think I've ever seen you at a grotto meet, and we have 3 in the metroplex. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:40 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you seen the number of folks attending grotto meetings increase or decline over the last 6 months? N/A. Don't go.

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2008-07-18 Thread mark . alman
level. Thanks for asking, though. Mark -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:38 PM To: Alman, Mark @ IRP Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices And why is that? I don't think I've ever seen you at a grotto meet

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2008-07-18 Thread Charles Goldsmith
) at the state level than at the local level. Thanks for asking, though. Mark -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:38 PM To: Alman, Mark @ IRP Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices And why is that? I don't

RE: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-18 Thread Louise Power
, 18 Jul 2008 00:43:17 -0500From: wavycaver@gmail.comTo: philipmoss@juno.comCC: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health

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2008-07-18 Thread Louise Power
: texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:27:39 -0500Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Wavy, I guess I only qualify as a Butt Head as I drive a 210 HP Ford Exploder that only gets 20 MPG highway. As has been mentioned, a big part of the problem is S D. With China, India

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2008-07-18 Thread Louise Power
ourselves to lunch out and a movie), there's almost nobody in the restaurants. Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:19:38 -0500 From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] OT- gas prices Couple of questions for the Texas Caver use group related to the price of gas

[Texascavers] OT- gas prices

2008-07-17 Thread Philip L Moss
Do you want your income to revert to what it was when gas was $0.699/gal. also? Personally, I find it less painful to fill up today than I did in the mid-1970s. BTW - gas prices in some places in the US in 1906 was $1.06/gallon. Inflation calculators say that is equivalent to over $25/gal. in

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2008-07-17 Thread Don Cooper
No - but I would give my left nut to go back to the days that gas was 1.05 a gallon, when I was making only $19.00 an hour with excellent health benefits and rent, including paid utilities were only $500 a month. Basically, you can blame a lot of the current energy situation, worldwide, on

Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-21 Thread Nascar Caver
DL writes If gas hits $ 3.50 a gallon in July, I will have to alter my plans to go to the NSS Convention. I do not believe it will hit $ 4 unless there is a unexpected disaster somewhere that affects the oil industry. Well then, let's hope that the disaster is *expected*. I've got a better

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2007-05-21 Thread Tim Kohtz
Think about the cost it takes to refine drinking water as opposed gasoline. I never hear anyone complain about the price of water. Back in the 70's the gas crisis was a big deal, the price of it went up and the economy car was the new standard. We all know now that was a giant lie. Are these

Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices

2007-05-21 Thread Kara Savvas
gasoline by the date you mention, at least, I hope not. Kara - Original Message From: Ed Alexander eda...@realtime.net Cc: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:59:01 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices For $92,000 you can buy a lot of $4 gas. Kara

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2007-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices Think about the cost it takes to refine drinking water as opposed gasoline. I never hear anyone complain about the price of water. Back in the 70's the gas crisis was a big deal, the price of it went up and the economy car was the new standard. We

Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices

2007-05-21 Thread Don
On May 21, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Fritz Holt wrote: I predict that unless hybrid vehicles can at least double the mileage of the same model non-hybrid that most people will wise-up to the fact that they are not economically feasible given the higher cost and the expensive battery replacement.

Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices

2007-05-21 Thread Don
Let me try this again, with actual text this time. Hybrids carry around a huge weight in batteries and usually have little room for groceries. A family of four would have a tough time carrying all their gear for a weekend outing, not to mention the expense and hassle of replacing batteries

Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices

2007-05-20 Thread Kara Savvas
: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:08:00 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices Until the price of gas actually reflects the costs of extracting it and using it, (way more than the artificially low $3 or $4 per gallon we're talking about) the earth is in serious jeopardy. The only thing that will ever make

Re: [Texascavers]OT gas prices

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Alexander
For $92,000 you can buy a lot of $4 gas. Kara Savvas wrote: ABC did a story on this company, that is entering the market with a fancy sports car, http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1 - Visit our website:

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2007-05-19 Thread vivbone
Until the price of gas actually reflects the costs of extracting it and using it, (way more than the artificially low $3 or $4 per gallon we're talking about) the earth is in serious jeopardy. The only thing that will ever make people conserve is economic pressure. The price of each gallon of

[Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread David Locklear
Do you think we will ever see $ 1.99 gas again?I don't think so. The cheapest I saw today was $ 2.96 at Phillips. Almost everybody else here ( in Houston ) was $ 2.99, but pumps in the upscale neighborhoods were up to $ 3.05. I rode my scooter all week to try to save some money - never

Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread bec_kar...@juno.com
$3.49 right now in Illinois. Sheesh. Barb -- David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think we will ever see $ 1.99 gas again?I don't think so. The cheapest I saw today was $ 2.96 at Phillips. Almost everybody else here ( in Houston ) was $ 2.99, but pumps in the upscale

Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread Mark Passerby
Price is $3.49 here in Michigan as wellmakes the drive to WV to cave a quite costly event. Mark On 5/18/07, bec_kar...@juno.com bec_kar...@juno.com wrote: $3.49 right now in Illinois. Sheesh. Barb -- David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think we will ever see $ 1.99 gas

Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread Don Cooper
You know - its a whole lot easier to connect this situation to certain government administrators THAN it was to connect terrorism to certain countries What was the price of gas in 2000? (It had not gone over $1.60) (Geez - at these prices my wallet is feeling terrorized!) -WaV On 5/18/07,

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2007-05-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
8:55 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices Price is $3.49 here in Michigan as wellmakes the drive to WV to cave a quite costly event. Mark On 5/18/07, bec_kar...@juno.com bec_kar...@juno.com wrote: $3.49 right now in Illinois. Sheesh. Barb

RE: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread Fritz Holt
@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices $3.49 right now in Illinois. Sheesh. Barb -- David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think we will ever see $ 1.99 gas again?I don't think so. The cheapest I saw today was $ 2.96 at Phillips. Almost everybody else here

Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread Mary Thiesse
11:22:38 PM Subject: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices Do you think we will ever see $ 1.99 gas again?I don't think so. The cheapest I saw today was $ 2.96 at Phillips. Almost everybody else here ( in Houston ) was $ 2.99, but pumps in the upscale neighborhoods were up to $ 3.05. I rode my

RE: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices

2007-05-18 Thread Fritz Holt
They should all be riding scooters in that area. Fritz _ From: Mary Thiesse [mailto:wpipistre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:37 AM To: David Locklear; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - gas prices I saw on the news this morning