RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! And I had to miss the name tags I had suggested for years. They help geezers know who folks are. Fritz From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:23 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR 2011 Congratul

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! And I had to miss the name tags I had suggested for years. They help geezers know who folks are. Fritz From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:23 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR 2011 Congratul

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! And I had to miss the name tags I had suggested for years. They help geezers know who folks are. Fritz From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:23 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR 2011 Congratul

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
And Thank you Steve Gutting, to help me in the survey team wonderful job Moni 2011/10/18 Espeleo Coahuila > Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the > first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, > this weekend received a l

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
And Thank you Steve Gutting, to help me in the survey team wonderful job Moni 2011/10/18 Espeleo Coahuila > Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the > first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, > this weekend received a l

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
And Thank you Steve Gutting, to help me in the survey team wonderful job Moni 2011/10/18 Espeleo Coahuila > Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the > first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, > this weekend received a l

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, this weekend received a lot hugs and good words from you, and some donations. Thank you again for let me help in some areas that you need help: Aim

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, this weekend received a lot hugs and good words from you, and some donations. Thank you again for let me help in some areas that you need help: Aim

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011

2011-10-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Thank you friends, this year was my second time to participed in TCR, the first 2009, I cannot to help much, and you help me alot with my treatments, this weekend received a lot hugs and good words from you, and some donations. Thank you again for let me help in some areas that you need help: Aim

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
once or twice a year. Fritz (geezer( :) -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM To: Fritz Holt Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex; Mandy Holt Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Fritz,

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
once or twice a year. Fritz (geezer( :) -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM To: Fritz Holt Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex; Mandy Holt Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Fritz,

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
once or twice a year. Fritz (geezer( :) -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM To: Fritz Holt Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex; Mandy Holt Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Fritz,

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2011-09-08 Thread Stefan Creaser
;Mandy Holt' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I love a good sandwich with lettuce, tomato and spicy mustard. In addition to white and wheat bread, could we have some rye? It goes especially well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many prefer a liquid diet. Fritz

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Stefan Creaser
;Mandy Holt' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I love a good sandwich with lettuce, tomato and spicy mustard. In addition to white and wheat bread, could we have some rye? It goes especially well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many prefer a liquid diet. Fritz

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Stefan Creaser
;Mandy Holt' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I love a good sandwich with lettuce, tomato and spicy mustard. In addition to white and wheat bread, could we have some rye? It goes especially well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many prefer a liquid diet. Fritz

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Diana Tomchick
ally well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many > prefer a liquid diet. > > Fritz > > From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! &g

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Diana Tomchick
ally well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many > prefer a liquid diet. > > Fritz > > From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! &g

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Diana Tomchick
ally well with camaraderie. Who needs hot food when so many > prefer a liquid diet. > > Fritz > > From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM > To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! &g

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
[mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! A cold table, i.e., pasta/salad/antipasto/sandwich route would be fine with me and also be something different. Desperate times and all. Just my 1/50th of a

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
[mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! A cold table, i.e., pasta/salad/antipasto/sandwich route would be fine with me and also be something different. Desperate times and all. Just my 1/50th of a

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Fritz Holt
[mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:17 AM To: Stefan Creaser; Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! A cold table, i.e., pasta/salad/antipasto/sandwich route would be fine with me and also be something different. Desperate times and all. Just my 1/50th of a

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Mark . Alman
: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt&#x

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Mark . Alman
: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt&#x

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-08 Thread Mark . Alman
: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt&#x

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
There's probably a KFC in Johnson City that caters. :) :( From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:31 PM To: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Coo

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
There's probably a KFC in Johnson City that caters. :) :( From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:31 PM To: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Coo

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
There's probably a KFC in Johnson City that caters. :) :( From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:31 PM To: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Coo

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt'; 'Jenny Holt' Cc: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texa

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt'; 'Jenny Holt' Cc: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texa

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
Anyone for salad this year? ;-) --Stefan [Chief Cook and Bottle Washer] From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:18 PM To: 'Gill Edigar'; Diana Tomchick; 'Mandy Holt'; 'Jenny Holt' Cc: Cave Tex Subject: RE: [Texa

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
.@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Cave Tex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
.@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Cave Tex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
.@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Cave Tex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Gill Edigar
My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is a most exceptional year. The drouth has dealt us a double blow that we normally don't have to be concerned with--low water and dry and dead plant material (= fu

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Gill Edigar
My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is a most exceptional year. The drouth has dealt us a double blow that we normally don't have to be concerned with--low water and dry and dead plant material (= fu

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Gill Edigar
My gut feeling, having many years of experience at Flat Creek Ranch and having physically walked the grounds last week, is that this is a most exceptional year. The drouth has dealt us a double blow that we normally don't have to be concerned with--low water and dry and dead plant material (= fu

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
t > the TCR sale the last year at Paradise Canyon. > > Fritz > > -Original Message- > From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:44 AM > To: Fritz Holt > Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascave

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
t > the TCR sale the last year at Paradise Canyon. > > Fritz > > -Original Message- > From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:44 AM > To: Fritz Holt > Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascave

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
t > the TCR sale the last year at Paradise Canyon. > > Fritz > > -Original Message- > From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:44 AM > To: Fritz Holt > Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascave

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread brewskyjba
If that's the case then eliminate all off roaring on or off trails. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:05:09 To: Mallory Mayeux Cc: Fritz Holt; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I su

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread brewskyjba
If that's the case then eliminate all off roaring on or off trails. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:05:09 To: Mallory Mayeux Cc: Fritz Holt; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I su

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread brewskyjba
If that's the case then eliminate all off roaring on or off trails. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:05:09 To: Mallory Mayeux Cc: Fritz Holt; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! I su

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
n and rules. Fritz From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Even without throwing sparks, my co

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
n and rules. Fritz From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Even without throwing sparks, my co

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
n and rules. Fritz From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011! Even without throwing sparks, my co

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
I suggest that the only hot air generated is while sitting around with a beer and talking... From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
I suggest that the only hot air generated is while sitting around with a beer and talking... From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Creaser
I suggest that the only hot air generated is while sitting around with a beer and talking... From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:57 AM To: Diana Tomchick Cc: Fritz Holt; Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Even without throwing sparks, my concern would be that several ATVs would raise a lot of dust. Allan asked people to drive their cars slowly when they're off the pavement in order to avoid kicking up dust. Wouldn't four-wheelers cause the same problems? Mallory On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Di

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Even without throwing sparks, my concern would be that several ATVs would raise a lot of dust. Allan asked people to drive their cars slowly when they're off the pavement in order to avoid kicking up dust. Wouldn't four-wheelers cause the same problems? Mallory On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Di

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Even without throwing sparks, my concern would be that several ATVs would raise a lot of dust. Allan asked people to drive their cars slowly when they're off the pavement in order to avoid kicking up dust. Wouldn't four-wheelers cause the same problems? Mallory On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Di

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
I believe it is an excellent place for mountain biking, so why don't you try bringing a bike instead? Little chance that would spark a fire. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Departm

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
I believe it is an excellent place for mountain biking, so why don't you try bringing a bike instead? Little chance that would spark a fire. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Departm

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Diana Tomchick
I believe it is an excellent place for mountain biking, so why don't you try bringing a bike instead? Little chance that would spark a fire. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Departm

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
Allan, I read in an earlier post that Flat Creek Ranch had either 300 or 500 acres. My first TCR was there in 2005 but I don't remember much about the terrain other than the creek bed and elevated area where many camped. Are there any ranch roads or trails on the property where ATV's may be rid

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
Allan, I read in an earlier post that Flat Creek Ranch had either 300 or 500 acres. My first TCR was there in 2005 but I don't remember much about the terrain other than the creek bed and elevated area where many camped. Are there any ranch roads or trails on the property where ATV's may be rid

RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2011!

2011-09-07 Thread Fritz Holt
Allan, I read in an earlier post that Flat Creek Ranch had either 300 or 500 acres. My first TCR was there in 2005 but I don't remember much about the terrain other than the creek bed and elevated area where many camped. Are there any ranch roads or trails on the property where ATV's may be rid