Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
' Hmm. Read that again, slowly. "...at prices competitive.with _new nuclear plants_! Ever wondered why you haven't seen any new nuclear plants in the last 30 years? Aside..' Alex, what do you think the new cost of nuclear is? I bet it will be much more than solar or wind in ju

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
han ours, a big percentage of which were built in the 40s and 50s. From: imocaves@comcast.netTo: ot@texascavers.comDate: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:42:44 -0400Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power >Texas is the national leader in wind power and we have the potential to >meet the rest of our en

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
_ From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:29 AM To: rdmilhol...@charter.net; qui...@clearwire.net; o...@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power rdmilhollin said: "This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energ

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Alex Sproul
>Texas is the national leader in wind power and we have the potential to >meet the rest of our energy needs with solar power. In fact, if we put solar >panels on an area thirty miles by thirty miles in west Texas, we could .generate enough electricity to power the entire state

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
Big corporate energy providers all. From: quinta@clearwire.netTo: power_lou...@hotmail.com; rdmilhol...@charter.net; ot@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar powerDate: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:56:16 -0500 Shell is doing it in Europe why not here?? Nieuwland AmersfootLocation: Nethe

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
Shell is doing it in Europe why not here?? Nieuwland Amersfoot Location: Netherlands Operator: Eneco Holdings, Amersfoot SCW Configuration: 1.62 MWp Operation: 2002 System supplier: Shell Solar, BP Solar, Colt EPC: Ecotec Systems Quick facts: At completion, this was the world's largest residential

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
much less a whole country. So tell me, what is the alternative? It's easy to criticize, but do you have a better plan? From: rdmilhollin@charter.netTo: qui...@clearwire.net; ot@texascavers.comList-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:48:05 -0500Subject: RE: [ot_ca

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread mark . alman
ri 6/27/2008 10:31 AM To: Don Cooper; rdmilhol...@charter.net Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; o...@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power Good information Wavy. - Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Nicholson
...@texascavers.com" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:31:03 AM Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power Good information Wavy. - Fritz   From:Don Cooper [mailto: wavyca...@gmail.com ] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:07 AM To: rdmilhol...@charter.net Cc: qui...

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
Good information Wavy. - Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:07 AM To: rdmilhol...@charter.net Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power A couple of things about solar

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What about using all the empty roof-top space INSIDE the cities, such as the roofs of malls, Walmarts, grocery stores, That is being done - One of the eco grocery stores is doing it and I have heard of others. Just fr

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread Don Cooper
A couple of things about solar panels: 1. They are very very expensive. 2. The current technology seems to only convert Infrared into electricity. Wide spectrum conversion is being done, but only on the panels that go into space - that kind of panel is 10 times more expensive. I know someone that p

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread RD Milhollin
This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What about using all the empty roof-top space INSIDE the cities, such as the roofs of malls, Walmarts, grocery stores, car lots, parking lots, strip-centers, individual homes, apartment buildings etc. I can see this as a

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread RD Milhollin
I bet a nuclear accident could REALLY put a dent in them solar panels! _ From: qui...@clearwire.net [mailto:qui...@clearwire.net] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:23 AM To: Don Cooper; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power Devil's advocate here -

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread David
Just south of Yuma, Arizona and a few miles southeast of San Luis del Rio Colorado, Sonora, is a very large flat chunk of sand. http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/sonora-state-mexico/sonora-state-mexico-map-a0.gif I spent a day in the hot sun out there with my tiny Mazda GLC stuck in the sand. I was

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread quinta
Devil's advocate here - ;-) I bet a tornado could damage solar panels and wind turbines a lot more than it could a nuclear reactor! -DC Yep, I play devils advocate a lot some days. How many times does one 30 sq mile area get a tornado? Wichita Falls has had two big ones in my life time 63 yrs.

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-26 Thread Louise Power
Very interesting. I say do it! Get out from under the thumb of foreign governments. I heard on the news the other day that the dollar is in such bad shape that a lot of things, including more major real estate in major cities is in danger of being snapped up by foreign investors who already own