On Jul 3, 6:00 pm, wolfgang wrote:
> If one does it without the AttachFile package but embeds data:uri's
> directly, or via transclusion, in the stylesheet - also IE does
> display the tiny Icons of treeview - and no need for AttachFile
> package and additional external pics in the first place:
> By the way TWT-Treeview is a single file and does not rely on any
> external files or images for working in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. For
> those who can put up with the glacial speed of IE then they can put up
> with external images that are conveniently supplied because IE doesn't
> recognize
> By the way TWT-Treeview is a single file and does not rely on any
> external files or images for working in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. For
> those who can put up with the glacial speed of IE then they can put up
> with external images that are conveniently supplied because IE doesn't
> recognize
On Jun 24, 4:39 am, Morris Gray wrote:
> TagglyTagging is powerful but for users not familiar TiddlyWiki it can
> provide far too much information that distracts from the application a
> particular TiddlyWiki might be designed for. However it is a
> wonderful TiddlyWiki builder's and TiddlyWiki
> > Morris Gray
> >http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/
> > The ultimate TiddlyWiki
>
> Missed the announcement of this, Morris.
>
A very beautiful TW indeed, thanks for setting it up and making it so
easy to use :-)
regards..
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On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Morris Gray wrote:
> Morris Gray
> http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/
> The ultimate TiddlyWiki
Missed the announcement of this, Morris. Not sure I will use all the
features, some are not quite to my taste, but many are very
attractive. Tabbed menus
On Jun 24, 1:17 am, Tobias Beer wrote:
> This is interesting indeed, though a bit of a hassle for predominantly
> single file users. As an alternative, I find that the sitemap-view of
> mptw's tagglyTagging offers quite a powerful (and fast) tree
> too ...without collapsing images or any externa
On 18 Mai, 07:38, "Mark S." wrote:
> A few days ago Morris Gray pointed out thetreeviewplugin code for
> jquery developed by the folks athttp://www.dynamicdrive.com/.
>
> I've been hoping for some capability like this would come along, so
> I've taken a first stab at implementing it:
>
> http://
> Relatedly, I think, there is something called hypergraph discussed
> here:http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/1f0849...
>
> and the example still available
> here:http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/241006/TiddlyTagmapGraph.html
>
> I have no idea how to use it though!
The or
>I can't tell from the demo if the menu understands nested lists
I don't think it understands nested lists, I made several attempts but
it would only display one level of the accordion.
Relatedly, I think, there is something called hypergraph discussed
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/Tiddly
Thanks for pointing that out!
Now, if it was only tag based ... I suppose it would be possible to
create a macro that would generate the unordered list, and then
*maybe* the accordion macro right after it would then turn it into an
accordion menu. However, I can't tell from the demo if the menu
u
> I set up an example here:http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/
very elegant, thanks for the pointer -- I noticed more than a few
nifty features I like!
wishing you the better and the best Wolfgang,
Pat
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> Maybe there's already an accordion menu for TW out there?
There is this plugin:
AccordionMenuPlugin
AccordionMenuPluginDemo
http://tw.lewcid.org/
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I think what you want is a whole different animal -- the accordion
menu. Like:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex17/ddaccordionmenu-bullet.htm
Maybe there's already an accordion menu for TW out there?
-- Mark
On Jun 2, 5:46 pm, pat wrote:
> I know cross-posting is a no-no, but I realiz
> Thanks, wolfgang.
>
> And while I'm at it, glad to see you back on TiddlyWiki GoogleGroup. I
> wondered if you were OK.
>
> Sincerely,
>
Thanks for caring, Eric. I did have to struggle with an age/stress
related disease (PAD), which consumed all my time.
Gladly, the situation now improved a bid
I know cross-posting is a no-no, but I realize that I posted a comment
about treeview there:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/ae27dbd756c135fe
that properly belonged here, so I hope I'll be forgiven this time. And
this will bump up a topic that deserves to be at the t
On May 24, 2009, at 11:12 AM, wolfgang wrote:
>> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
>> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
>> sidebar with excludeLists?
>>
>
> Since Treeview is based on tags the excludeLists tag should also work
> her
On May 24, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Morris Gray wrote:
> On May 25, 12:05 am, Eric Weir wrote:
>> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
>> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
>> sidebar with excludeLists?
>
> The way TWT-Notes-Exp is set up The
On May 25, 12:05 am, Eric Weir wrote:
> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
> sidebar with excludeLists?
The way TWT-Notes-Exp is set up TheTop Level tiddler name is the tag
for all of it's children
For this particular tree structure, I don't think you'd have to rename
all tags.
root
root.a
a.Jonas
a.Silas
Silas.Bod
root.b
b.Coraline
b.OtherMother
where the dot notation indicates:
tagname(parent branch).node(leaf).name
Then to move "Bod" to
Hi Eric,
> Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
> possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
> sidebar with excludeLists?
>
Since Treeview is based on tags the excludeLists tag should also work
here. As long as it hasn't been tagged with a top
> > Might it be possible to provide for rearranging items in the tree,
> > e.g., by dragging?
>
> This capability isn't in the native treeview menu code. We can hope
> that they might add it some day. I can imagine some ways to emulate it
> a bit ... but is a bit mind-numbing.
>
It is mind-numbi
Another question, that may already have been answered: will it be
possible exclude tiddlers from the tree, the way you can from the
sidebar with excludeLists?
Thanks in advance,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth
On May 23, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Mark S. wrote:
> . . . the treeview menu is now portable. The images are
> embedded in the TW file. Calling this 0.24. Additional documentation
> in the plugin write-up.,
Wow! That was quick. But that's the way things happen around here.
Looking forward to giving T
Thanks to Eric, the treeview menu is now portable. The images are
embedded in the TW file. Calling this 0.24. Additional documentation
in the plugin write-up.
Thanks all!
Mark
On May 23, 11:22 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> Thanks Eric!
>
> I've tried this on 2 or 3 images, and it seems to be working w
Thanks Eric!
I've tried this on 2 or 3 images, and it seems to be working well.
Guess I'll be doing a bit of cutting and pasting this weekend.
Thanks!
Mark
On May 23, 10:19 am, Eric Shulman wrote:
> > If there is a way to access images embedded with the AttachFilePlugin
> > in CSS, then maybe
> If there is a way to access images embedded with the AttachFilePlugin
> in CSS, then maybe the tree could be completely contained in the TW.
The good news is that AttachFilePluginFormatters -- the 'runtime'
rendering functions that handle 'attachment tiddlers' -- already
supports the use of att
Hi Mark,
> The images are used as background urls in the CSS that gets applied to
> the tree. So if some CSS expert knows how to translate background
> images into text substitutes, maybe that could be another off-line
> approach.
>
Though not really an expert, but here an example of an embedded
The little icons that make up the tree have to be available either in
a local directory, or online somewhere. When I put TW on a stick, I
tend to take an entire directory at once anyways. That way I can carry
along information that would bloat the TW file -- like images and web
sites.
If there is
On May 23, 2009, at 4:18 AM, Morris Gray wrote:
> On May 23, 3:40 pm, "Mark S." wrote:
>> Actually, I have the jquery.cookie.js code from DD already embedded
>> in
>> the code at treeview.tiddlyspot.com ... so hopefully you're referring
>> to what happened when you updated the plugin2 on your
On May 23, 3:40 pm, "Mark S." wrote:
> Hi Morris,
>
> Actually, I have the jquery.cookie.js code from DD already embedded in
> the code at treeview.tiddlyspot.com ... so hopefully you're referring
> to what happened when you updated the plugin2 on your tw site. I
> suppose I should make this clea
Hi Morris,
Actually, I have the jquery.cookie.js code from DD already embedded in
the code at treeview.tiddlyspot.com ... so hopefully you're referring
to what happened when you updated the plugin2 on your tw site. I
suppose I should make this clearer in the documentation. Then again,
it may be j
Hi Mark,
Wow it works like a charm, I admire your persistence :-)
However when accessed from TiddlySpot it creats an error in both IE&
and Chrome if you're accessing the cookie script from DynamicDrive.
I suggest that you put the jquery.cookie.js in TiddlyWiki as a
plugin. Someone thoughtfully
Hi Morris and anyone else following this topic!
I've just uploaded version 0.23.
This version supports persistence. That is, you can open a tree the
way you like it, close the file, and come back later and have it in
the same open state. You need to have the dynamic drive cookie library
install
Update
It appears the the behaviour with antisesame is the same whether it is
started with collapsed:false or collapsed:true. I suppose you
shouldn't use antisesame in collapsed true but it may be an indication
of future problems or a clue to known existing bugs.
Morris
On May 22, 3:48 pm, Mor
On May 22, 4:55 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> Hi Morris et al,
>
> I've updated the version. Plugin should read .22.
Hi mark,
I've brought everything up to date at:
http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html
The 0.22 plugin is looking very good. It's wonderful to keep certain
l
On May 21, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Mark S. wrote:
>> Might it be possible to provide for rearranging items in the tree,
>> e.g., by dragging?
>
> This capability isn't in the native treeview menu code. We can hope
> that they might add it some day. I can imagine some ways to emulate it
> a bit ... but
For anyone that's interested, I've traced the +s -s bug in this
limited situation to a library incompatibility. The treeview libraries
want their own version of jquery to play with. Fortunately, so far its
a pretty limited effect.
-- Mark
On May 21, 10:55 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> The sesame opti
Hello Eric,
On May 20, 11:40 am, Eric Weir wrote:
> On May 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Somewhere TreeView was described as being "like Windows Explorer." I
> think I know the answer, but thought I would ask to make sure, and to
> get the feature request out there:
I'm wondering
Hi Morris et al,
I've updated the version. Plugin should read .22.
I *think* I've gotten rid of the closed-for-open errors that were
reported. Except for the situation noted in the following.
The "antisesame" option should work better now, and does pretty much
what you expect. You invoke treevi
The code I'm seeing on your site says version 0.2. The current code
should say 0.21. Maybe you didn't upload after experimenting?
Just checking.
Thanks,
Mark
On May 20, 12:47 pm, Morris Gray wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I've been unsuccessful in making antisesame work on my site. I've
> disabled you
Hi Mark,
I've been unsuccessful in making antisesame work on my site. I've
disabled your other versions, tried it on various little branches, I
copied and pasted your antisesame code (but not your tiddlers I admit)
I am a bit thick in the head right now though.
Perhaps you could try it on the l
On May 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Mark S. wrote:
> I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature.
> Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it.
Somewhere TreeView was described as being "like Windows Explorer." I
think I know the answer, but thought I would ask to make su
Hi Morris,
I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature.
Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it.
Now when you specify the settings, you can specify a "sesame" and an
"antisesame" tag. Like
'collapsed: false, antisesame: "closed" '
"sesame" (case matters) gives
I tried the experimental treeview and it worked on my system (WinXP/
SP3, Firefox 3.0.10); however, when
I navigated away, the portion of the page where the Menu was did not
get re-drawn by FF - tried a couple
different sites, forced a refresh: nothing worked. Somehow, the Menu
'damage' doesn't ge
On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote:
Well done Mark. I have added Plugin2 to my site. It is working just
fine, have a look.
For a big menu like I'm using to see how it feels; opening the whole
thing is a bit over the top.
However I put it in the persist state and it remembers where it was
wh
It looks fantastic.
May I suggest something for a future tweek: make it so that it works
without external files.
Maybe characters can be used for the line such as : _ | –
ALex
2009/5/20 Morris Gray :
>
> On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote:
>> Am I missing something - what does it look like at t
On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote:
> Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds
> interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether
> I have the time to try it out.
To see it working you only have to click here:
http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental
Great work... this is really neat
I found one glitch: when you display an expanded tree on opening a
tiddlywiki (as in your example) then instead of displaying a '-' at
the tree branch you display a '+' and from then on collapsing and
expanding the branches always give the opposite symbol. This d
Thanks for the encouragement, Morris.
I've just made an update. There is now a new macro (treeview2 off of
TreeviewPluginPlugin2) that will allow you to specify the other tree
styles and some basic settings such as animation, collapse state,
speed.
I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your s
Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds
interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether
I have the time to try it out.
Iain
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This looks great. Before I lose sleep and hair, is it likely to work
in a tiddlyweb environment yet, or would I be wiser to wait a little
while for you clever folk to sort it out further?
I am very interested in using it for my TiddlyManual project for
manualizing mental health interventions (se
On May 19, 7:36 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> Hi Morris,
>
> Looking good.
>
> The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is
> that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible?
Oh I just named the CSS tiddler the name of the javascript because I
was lazy and copie
On May 18, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Morris Gray wrote:
> I think I've worked a few bugs out. I don't see the refresh problem
> however I did put the images on my own site because I felt
> uncomfortable accessing DynamicDrive. It is now independent I think
> except for the images. Perhaps Eric will te
Hi Morris,
Looking good.
The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is
that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible?
Thanks,
Mark
On May 18, 1:02 pm, Morris Gray wrote:
> On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." wrote:
>
> > Just a guess, but I suspect that th
On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops
> serving up the all-important images after it has been hit by a 3rd
> party site more than 3 or 4 times. Think this may be a common
> technique to prevent abuse. BUT, if you download the TW
Hah! And now I have the same problem! On all remotely hosted TW's. But
everything is OK on locally hosted TW's.
If you go to Morris' site, and refresh a couple times, you may find it
stops working there as well.
Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops
serving up the all
Marks example does not work for me, but Morris's does. . .
Looks great !!
Thx,
Mike
FF3.0.9 on XP64
On May 18, 9:59 am, Morris Gray wrote:
> On May 19, 12:18 am, "Mark S." wrote:
>
> > This is probably not the best long term solution. Perhaps someone here
> > can explain the proper style synt
On May 19, 12:18 am, "Mark S." wrote:
> This is probably not the best long term solution. Perhaps someone here
> can explain the proper style syntax that will get this to work without
> physically changing the structure of the file. However, a quick search
> on the net suggests that IE sometimes
Thanks Morris,
That looks good!
-- Mark
On May 18, 5:57 am, Morris Gray wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> You've done an excellent job so far. It was only days ago when I
> imagined what TWT-Notes would look like with a tree menu like the one
> on DynamicDrive now I've seen it thanks to you.
>
> You migh
Ok -- I'm cheating now.
IE 6 (and maybe the other IE's) don't seem to respond to the @import
in the stylesheet. So I physically put the stylesheet inside
the TW file up at the header. Now it works fine with IE 6 on my XP
system.
This is probably not the best long term solution. Perhaps someone
Hi Mark,
You've done an excellent job so far. It was only days ago when I
imagined what TWT-Notes would look like with a tree menu like the one
on DynamicDrive now I've seen it thanks to you.
You might be encouraged to see it too. It works in IE7 and Google
Chrome as well.
http://twt-notes-tr
Maybe I should have loaded all the CSS stuff manually into the
StyleSheet. Is it possible you have a firewall or other configuration
that would prevent one site from accessing info from another? The
symptoms you describe sound like what happens if the CSS is
unavailable.
I'm running FF3 under XP.
Same here firefox and IE on Vista...
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> I've taken a first stab at implementing it:
> http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/
That's a really nice idea - thanks for looking into it, Mark.
Unfortunately though, it doesn't seem to work for me: All the macro
generates for me is a single-item list with a link to the root tag
(tested with Fir
On May 18, 3:38 pm, "Mark S." wrote:
> A few days ago Morris Gray pointed out the treeview plugin code for
> jquery developed by the folks at http://www.dynamicdrive.com/.
Ahh my little acorn,
You have done well. Each journey begins with the smallest of
steps if one doesn't get rooted alo
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