Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
An apparent infinite loop in the pop-up tooltips, as per Birthe's discovery mentioned above. 14 May 2020, 21:00 by pmari...@gmail.com: > On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:18:34 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote: > >> No worries TonyM, the issue is resolved. >> > > OK. .. Good! > > What was the problem.

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread PMario
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:18:34 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote: > > No worries TonyM, the issue is resolved. > OK. .. Good! What was the problem. Just as a reference for others ;) -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscr

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
No worries TonyM, the issue is resolved. 14 May 2020, 14:45 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com: > Peter > > If I remember the context I think it was impossible in that case. Even the > toc macros test to ensure no infinite loops. I have caused them a dozen times > myself. > > I will share more tomorr

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread TonyM
Peter If I remember the context I think it was impossible in that case. Even the toc macros test to ensure no infinite loops. I have caused them a dozen times myself. I will share more tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Birthe, thanks again, for a very practical, specific solution. 14 May 2020, 11:33 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com: > Peter, > > Not totally serious ;-) BUT: > When we think in circles long enough we end up with a headache. Tiddlywiki do > too, but often realise it before we do. It IS like our own br

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread Birthe C
Peter, Not totally serious ;-) BUT: When we think in circles long enough we end up with a headache. Tiddlywiki do too, but often realise it before we do. It IS like our own brain. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubs

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Ah Birthe, thanks for that. So, if I understand this problem correctly, it means that if I use the pop-up tooltip I should not use transclusions like I did as well because it could cause that problem by accident if I am not careful. 14 May 2020, 11:14 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com: > Peter, > >

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
TonyM, Jeremy himself stated that infinite loops are impossible. 14 May 2020, 11:11 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com: > Peter > > Try the transclusions on a downloaded copy and see how it goes. > > My suspicion is you are transcluding something that transclude something else > until one of these tran

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread Birthe C
Peter, Try looking at your tiddler Face uncertainty. In this tiddler you hover uncertainty. In the popup, you are able to hover Face uncertainty, and look where that got you. Recursive transclusion error. That is even before you try to transclude that tiddler with the TE template. Birthe --

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread TonyM
Peter Try the transclusions on a downloaded copy and see how it goes. My suspicion is you are transcluding something that transclude something else until one of these transcluded one already transcluded and you get an infinate loop. Pretend you are the computer and read through each tiddler t

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-14 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Hey TonyM, I got the corrupt composite tiddler sorted out thanks to Birthe. So, I have uploaded to Tiddlyspot (http://peterspottiddly.tiddlyspot.com/) the following: Uncertainty - description, reaction, management: this is the new composite tiddler, which is empty as of yet. I would like to tra

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Birthe, Yes, that worked !! Once again, a very simple, practical instruction. In fact, so simple that I say to myself "why didn't I think of that?" Oh well, 1 day I will get there ;-) Thanks again Birthe, I was already bracing myself for the inevitable decision to have to scrap my entire TW file

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread Birthe C
Would you be able to create a tiddler with the same title in another TW? Import it to the one with the problem. Overwriting the cumbersome one. The last one you should be able to delete afterwards. torsdag den 14. maj 2020 kl. 05.30.29 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze: > > TonyM, > > I want to put the r

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
TonyM, I want to put the relevant tiddlers on Tiddlyspot, but the problem is I cannot export them because when I try to open them TW freezes because they are linked to that corrupt composite tiddler. So, I need to delete the composite tiddler but don't know how to do that since I cannot open i

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread TonyM
Peter, Can you rebuild your composite tiddler, adding each transclusion at a time? - If you can share a jason of all related tiddlers I/others can put on tiddlywiki.com it may help, even if the problem does not occur there, although idealy it would. - Please also provide a link to

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
PMario, I use TW 5.1.22. The composite tiddler is a very simple one consisting of 5 transclusions as in my OP What do you mean by "I do need this TE tiddler"? 13 May 2020, 14:46 by pmari...@gmail.com: > On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 1:37:37 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote: > >> Thanks PMario. >> >

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 1:37:37 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote: > > Thanks PMario. > > I downloaded an empty TiddlyBlink, imported all my tiddlers and added no > plug-ins. The infamous composite tiddler could not be opened. > > I then did the same with an empty TW file, and still the infamous

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks PMario. I downloaded an empty TiddlyBlink, imported all my tiddlers and added no plug-ins. The infamous composite tiddler could not be opened. I then did the same with an empty TW file, and still the infamous composite tiddler could not be opened. Conclusion: that tiddler, somehow, is co

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:03:59 AM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote: > > Transclusions were working fine, until I made that composite tiddler. > > I have been actively adding David Gifford's tooltips to internal links. > So, if Tid 1 links to Tid 2 and Tid 2 links to Tid 3 and Tid 3 to Tid 4, > the

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-13 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
Transclusions were working fine, until I made that composite tiddler. I have been actively adding David Gifford's tooltips to internal links. So, if Tid 1 links to Tid 2 and Tid 2 links to Tid 3 and Tid 3 to Tid 4, then in Tid 1's one can hover of the link to Tid 2 to see Tid 2 in a tooltip. In

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It's not the *number* of plugins *per se*. It's just that the more you have installed, especially from disparate authors, the more likely there is to be some sort of conflict. The conflict may be subtle. Anything that has to do with links and transclusions, like relink, freelink, etc. would be

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-12 Thread 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki
A lot of plug-ins? Is there a maximum one should use? The TW is fine, all tids open. But when I want to open that composite one, or even link another tid to it, TW freezes. 12 May 2020, 17:03 by tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com: > Whoa! That's a lot of plugins. I'm guessing that one or more are "com

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-12 Thread PMario
Hi, You should open an empty.html and try marks plugin alone, just to be sure, it's the right address. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddl

Re: [tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Whoa! That's a lot of plugins. I'm guessing that one or more are "competing" for the same space. Purely a guess, but I would think something like "relink" might get confused. Does it work any better if you remove the links? On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 6:49:01 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote: > > Ma

[tw5] Re: Composite tiddler with 5 transclusions chokes TW

2020-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm wondering if there is some interaction with some other plugin you may be using. Are you using anything? There shouldn't be any limit on serial transclusions (transclusions within transclusions ... maybe). For instance, I have: {{gardenaj-1||TE}} {{gardenaj-2||TE}} {{gardenaj-3||TE}} {{gard