Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread gary
OK. as they say, your mileage may vary. I just buy the real thing. It's cheap enough and works great. The price is still $7 for 32 oz at Frys. I'm not going to clean expensive optics with the drug store stuff. But feel free to use the drugstore stuff on your own gear if you want. I have this

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
gary wrote: They mix in stuff like wintergreen oil. The FDA doesn't have an issue with so-called inert ingredients. Inert for use on the body, not inert in electronics or optics. Most prescription drugs are full of inert materials. They don't have to be listed. Actually, they do have to be on t

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread gary
They mix in stuff like wintergreen oil. The FDA doesn't have an issue with so-called inert ingredients. Inert for use on the body, not inert in electronics or optics. Most prescription drugs are full of inert materials. They don't have to be listed. Generally you need reagent grade to get some

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Actually, no, it doesn't. The FDA would require them to call it something else, and the extra ingredients would have to be on the label. If they call it isopropyl alcohol, it contains alcohol, and water in various percentages. Isopropyl is readily available in 70%, 91%, and 99%. I would recom

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread lists
Ethanol is drinking alcohol, so most states require a permit to buy it. The stuff Frys sells is Puretronics technical grade isopropyl. The claim is 99.9% ultra pure anhydrous alcohol. $7 for 32oz when I bought it about 2 years ago. I use it for defluxing. I also use it on optical filters too.

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread jimlux
Eric Williams wrote: I knew someone who worked with 100% isopropanol who said there was some safety issue with using it in that, if it ignited, the flame was virtually invisible. same is true of most alcohols. Methanol and Ethanol burn colorless (a problem for race cars in accidents) _

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Eric Williams
I knew someone who worked with 100% isopropanol who said there was some safety issue with using it in that, if it ignited, the flame was virtually invisible. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:21 PM, jimlux wrote: > li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > >> Most drug store isopropal contain other chemicals to keep

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread jimlux
li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Most drug store isopropal contain other chemicals to keep your skin from drying out. You can buy electronics grade isopropal. Cheap enough ($5 for a large bottle) if you have a store that stocks it. Fry's Electronics has it. Of course grain alcohol will do the job.

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread lists
Most drug store isopropal contain other chemicals to keep your skin from drying out. You can buy electronics grade isopropal. Cheap enough ($5 for a large bottle) if you have a store that stocks it. Fry's Electronics has it. Of course grain alcohol will do the job. -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Javier Herrero
I've used isopropanol for cleaning the display connectors and the elastomer strip with sucess (last time for a Becker Mexico car radio...) El 03/01/2011 23:55, Jim Palfreyman escribió: Hi All, The item is indeed the "zebra strip". Alignment is pretty good (I think) as the case ensures it. So

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Hi All, The item is indeed the "zebra strip". Alignment is pretty good (I think) as the case ensures it. So it sounds like it might need a clean. I shall look into that one... Postscript... Just searched the world for DeoxIT and it turns out the local Australian supplier has a shop 50m from whe

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Burt I. Weiner wrote: > I'm not sure of the nature of the two receivers, but using conventional > receiver design thinking, the only thing that comes to mind that might be > radiating would be the oscillators or possibly the I.F. section taling to > each other. My c

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 78, Issue 7

2011-01-03 Thread Burt I. Weiner
Bill, The system in question is being used for navigation, but a little more than your typical find a restaurant type of navigation system. The symptoms are that they will lock on birds erratically, maybe for a few seconds at a time As I may have mentioned in an earlier post, for my frequenc

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread Neville Michie
Hi Antonio, The wheel that flicks the chopper bar seems to be a press fit. The shaft is knurled (ridges have been formed) and the brass insert in the wheel is pressed over the knurled shaft. As the other end of the shaft protrudes from the gearbox it is simple to press the wheel on, but very diffi

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Would depend on the antennae gain maybe. Simple patch antennae shouldn't have a problem working close together. We were installing Matsushita ones with about 35db gain. Most certainly a problem with some of the older types with down-converters built in. Rob K -Original Message- From: t

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Also good idea when considering lightning protection issues Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of shali...@gmail.com Sent: 03 January 2011 7:50 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Atkinson
OK, I confess, I'm a serial addict. GM detectors and counters, Ionisation chambers, Gas propotional, Alpha (ZnS) scintillators, Gamma scintillators (NaI(Tl), BGO, Plastic), Beta scintillators (plastic, liquid) Solid state detectors (Alpha, Beta & Gamma), Single and multi channel analysers. Plus

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, I have two HP conical antennas 4 feet apart and just below the roof level, with an elevation cutoff of 30 degrees for the large and growing oak trees on 3 sides. Fifty feet of RG-8 each connects to two Z3801A receivers. I've had no trouble in a dozen years, here in Minneapolis. T1 to GPS run

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread J. Forster
Yes and MultiChannel Analyzers too. Not to mention NIM and CAMAC. -John = > Ahem. Some of us collect *scintillation counters*. [?] > > Anybody have a working cesium fountain? > > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Robert Atkinson > wrote: > >> Hi Antonio, >> Time nut, radio

[time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Burt I. Weiner
The situation I was in at the time I experienced this was while making radio station signal strength measurements from an associate's vehicle. We were using my laptop with Delorme's Topo USA 7.0 runign Quad maps and at the same time running a Garmin GPS128 system to confirm bearing and distanc

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi, There are (at least) two types of connector. Some displays use both types. First is "Zebra-strip" which is an elastomer sandwich of conducting/insulating material that conducts vertically but not horizontally. These rely on mechanical clamping and are what Gary  is referring to. The other is

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread shalimr9
I have had mixed success (I am being generous) getting these kinds of displays working properly after being disassembled. The trick is to align the display itself with the traces on the PWB. The elastomeric connection is a funny thing that conducts electricity in only one direction, so its align

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread William H. Fite
Ahem. Some of us collect *scintillation counters*. [?] Anybody have a working cesium fountain? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Robert Atkinson wrote: > Hi Antonio, > Time nut, radio amateur and Hp owner eh! If you collect geiger counters > we'll have 4 out of 4 . > Robert G8RPI. > > --- On

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread gary
You need to clean the elastomer. I've done this with Caig deoxit, though I would search their website to see if they have a special product for the task. http://store.caig.com/ Generally the LCD is just pressed against the elastomer, so you may need to see that the pressure is sufficient. O

[time-nuts] Need 5334A Oscillator Support Board

2011-01-03 Thread Dave M
Does anyone have a surplus Oscillator Support Board for the 5334A Option 010 counter? The part number is 05334A-60003. Nothing even close shows up on Ebay nor in a Google search. I'd like to get 2 or 3 if any are available. I guess I could homebrew it as a last resort, but I'd rather have the

[time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-03 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Apologies for being a teensy tiny bit OT. But is relevant on the whole. I have a remote control for an air conditioner whos display is only partially working. Upon internal inspection it seems the sticky thingy (technical term) connecting the LCD display to the board is not attached properly. An

Re: [time-nuts] 10 to 100 MHz Multiplier

2011-01-03 Thread Dave M
Here you can find a project of the Multiplier: http://www.timeok.it/files/10_to_100_mhz_multiplier.pdf Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Luciano, That's a good looking project, and pretty good results for a homebrew multiplier. Would you have a picture of the bottom of the board that you coul

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread shalimr9
The additional advantage is to give you diversity and some immunity against multipath (at least it reduces the probability that both receivers will be affected at the same time due to weird constellation issues or local interference). But it now creates an issue which is how do you know who is

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Darlington
I particularly like the Box Enclosures brand extruded aluminum boxes. The series 2 and series 3 enclosures take 100mm wide Eurocard boards perfectly. They are very easy to machine if you want D holes for BNC connectors, etc. They're also extremely high quality and cheap! Newark sells them and I

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2011-01-03 Thread Chris Albertson
Hammond also make aluminum boxes from extrusions. These have parallel walls and there are slots for mounting PCBs. I don't think we need to select a "standard" box. only a "standard PCB siz. If you pick 100mm x 160mm that is a standard eurocard size and there are many boxes that hold 100 x 160m

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference

2011-01-03 Thread k6rtm
While you can try and run multiple GPS receivers off a single antenna using an off the shelf mini-circuits splitter, a bias tee, and a handful of dc blocks, you're likely to run into just this kind of problem. It's more than just the "normal" HP overdesign that has their GPS splitters like the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Antonio, Time nut, radio amateur and Hp owner eh! If you collect geiger counters we'll have 4 out of 4 . Robert G8RPI.   --- On Sun, 2/1/11, asma...@fc.up.pt wrote: From: asma...@fc.up.pt Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Sunday, 2 January,

Re: [time-nuts] Us Time Nuts and... Wrist Watches.

2011-01-03 Thread jimlux
Tom Van Baak wrote: Steve, After you're done chuckling, note that one man's "utterly insignificant" is another group's passion. A 6 foot person vs. 98 million miles is 6 / (9.8e7 * 5280), or 1.16e-11, a unitless number that's well within our range of expertise and fascination; neither utterly n

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Yes, I've seen this. On installations in the past, when we were putting up dual GPS systems, we always put them at least 10 metres apart. What is actually best practice, is to put one at one end of building and the other one at the other end. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-n

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread William H. Fite
You are correct, John, and I apologize for my verbosity on the topic. Others may have the last word, if desired, I'm done. Bill On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:48 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > All, this has drifted way off track and should have stopped many messages > ago. I really hate having t

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread William H. Fite
Thank you, Horst, for your voice of calm reason. The point that I raised (or tried to...) was that no data base of this size is capable of being error free, whether the unit cost of production is ten billion dollars or ten cents. Random error can be reduced but it can never be eliminated. Worse,

[time-nuts] STC TCXO

2011-01-03 Thread ernieperes
Happy New Years to Everybody, Anybody can help with a short data, or info about a STC TCXO Type TCXO 455 L1454 TRL 903 007/1 Freq 20MHz Size 2x2x1/2 inches six pin arrangements. Specially interested the ops voltage and the pin ass

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2011-01-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
It's a slow day at the end of too many holidays in series, counting Solstice. Pardon me for slacking off and getting way off track ... I have asked three different map services for the location of a restaurant and gotten three different answers within a mile of each other. So I called the restaura

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Burt I. Weiner wrote: > Has anyone run into a situation where two GPS Navigation type > Antenna/Receivers interfere with each other? It's possible that LO leakage from one is jamming the other. When doing mobile GPS receiver testing at work with a single antenna fee

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2011-01-03 Thread jimlux
bownes wrote: I love those Hammond boxes until I have to pay the bill. The one for my n2pk VNA was about $28. I find the non-parallel sides really inconvenient on the Hammond boxes. It means you can't mount the boards to the sides of the box, just to the bottom or the top. COMPAC (htt

[time-nuts] test

2011-01-03 Thread ernieperes
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Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin Nuvi

2011-01-03 Thread William H. Fite
Whether it correctly locates my house or the addresses that interest me is of interest only to me. I think Garmin would rejoin that overwhelmingly their addresses are accurate. I grant you that it is annoying as hell when the one I want is off. Maddening, in fact. I'm just saying that a data ba

[time-nuts] OT: Rustrak Strip Chart Recorder

2011-01-03 Thread asmagal
Hello! I need to change the 60 Hz motors of my recorders for using them here in Europe. I found a suitable replacement for 230 V/ 50 Hz but I need to re-use the original main drive plastic wheel. It appears a bit hard to remove. Since I am not very skilled in micro mechanics, I am afraid of break

Re: [time-nuts] how to open a Trimble mushroom ?

2011-01-03 Thread Oz-in-DFW
I've opened similar packages (Motorola PVT-6 antennas) up with compressed air. YOU NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU DO THIS The plastic can shatter and fire off a million splinters. Probably into you. I wrapped the object of my attention in heavy canvas rolled up to form a

Re: [time-nuts] Hammond Boxes Available -

2011-01-03 Thread Mike Feher
Eric - Not at all. I can use the room for all the other junk I buy. I appreciate it. Thanks - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf

Re: [time-nuts] STC TCXO

2011-01-03 Thread ernieperes
Happy New Years to Everybody, Anybody can help with a short data, or info about a STC TCXO Type TCXO 455 L1454 TRL 903 007/1 Freq 20MHz Size 2x2x1/2 inches six pin arrangements. Specially interested the ops voltage and the pin assi

[time-nuts] 10 to 100 MHz Multiplier

2011-01-03 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Here you can find a project of the Multiplier: http://www.timeok.it/files/10_to_100_mhz_multiplier.pdf Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/t

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Dick wrote: Most of the destinations I program in, by address, work well. Most of the time, I get led right to the door. So why can't it figure out where I live ?? As others have pointed out, roads have generally been surveyed pretty accurately but houses have not, except in heavily populated

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin Nuvi

2011-01-03 Thread Justin Pinnix
I have a Nuvi and I love it. I have used it all over the country and it has gotten me where I need to go. Is it wrong sometimes? Sure, but it's wrong a lot less than I am in a strange city. Also, I don't care if it is wrong in my own neighborhood - I know where everything is there. It stays in

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut themalittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread shalimr9
I thinks that's because the algorithms used work well most of the time, simply not all of the time. You can call it sloppy work if you want, or you can call it an example of effective business model: provide a tool that will satisfy 95% of a perceived (or real) need for the price of an average C

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread EWKehren
Happy New Year every one. It is not the GPS, it is clearly the database, and short of a detailed survey of every address there will be variations. As Google enhances it's database I am sure so will the Navigator sellers. We have come a long way and we are getting spoiled. Bert Kehren Miami

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2011-01-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
All, this has drifted way off track and should have stopped many messages ago. I really hate having to jump in here but I've been getting well-justified private complaints. Can we *please* try to keep things on topic??? John J. Forster said the following on 01/01/2011 12:14 AM: HNY, I