Re: [time-nuts] MiniMac 2816AT

2011-03-07 Thread GandalfG8
It seems to be an L1/L2 dual frequency surveying receiver. Searching for minimac 2816, without the AT, seemed to produce a few more results with the following from 1988 amongst them _http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?58399_ (http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?58399)

Re: [time-nuts] MiniMac 2816AT

2011-03-07 Thread bg
In some references it is said to replace the TI-4100. Maybe something to document at http://www.ion.org/museum/cat_view.cfm?cid=11scid=9 where some other early receivers are presented. -- Björn It seems to be an L1/L2 dual frequency surveying receiver. Searching for minimac 2816,

Re: [time-nuts] MiniMac 2816AT

2011-03-07 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I love the lightweight comment. It has to weigh 20kg! On 7 March 2011 19:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: It seems to be an L1/L2 dual frequency surveying receiver. Searching for minimac 2816, without the AT, seemed to produce a few more results with the following from 1988 amongst them

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In the case of a GPS, you really can't increase the aperture (gain = directivity) since you want to cover the entire sky. The filter needed here is far from trivial. The spacing on the good to bad signals is pretty tight in this case. A filter can indeed be built, no doubt about that.

Re: [time-nuts] Where does the VXI E1740A fit in ?

2011-03-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 298e3f36-5846-4814-ba22-3e9c520e3...@rtty.us, Bob Camp writes: Hi They are very cool devices - when you get them working. Without the custom Windows software, they make a nice piece of wall art. A lot of them are mated up with non-HP VXI PC's so getting them running can take you off in

Re: [time-nuts] Where does the VXI E1740A fit in ?

2011-03-07 Thread paul swed
Indeed as I am slowly learning there is a gap in equipment vintage thats a black hole. Late 80s to 2005 approx. This is the point that the various test instruments went more to a hybrid mix of hardware and software with external software loads. When you pick up an instrument there are rarely any

Re: [time-nuts] Where does the VXI E1740A fit in ?

2011-03-07 Thread Pete Lancashire
I pretty much agree. Toss in so many companies trashed the originals and you are left with luck that someone took a copy home with them. I'll toss in another one, you get a surplus dealer and he immediately breaks up a 'system' up to in his mind make more money and many times that corrugated box

[time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Greetings.  I'm wondering if any one has any insight (or wishes to speculate) as to how the external analog frequency adjustment on a Temex LPFRS-01 Rubidium standard functions.    From experimenting with one over the last few days there seems to be a step function to the adjustment.   I'm

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi In the case of a GPS, you really can't increase the aperture (gain = directivity) since you want to cover the entire sky. No, in theory it need not be an omnidirectional antenna. One could use a very high gain antenna if it

Re: [time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/07/2011 05:52 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: Greetings. I'm wondering if any one has any insight (or wishes to speculate) as to how the external analog frequency adjustment on a Temex LPFRS-01 Rubidium standard functions. From experimenting with one over the last few days there seems to be a

[time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Arthur Dent
“Greetings. I'm wondering if any one has any insight (or wishes to speculate) As to how the external analog frequency adjustment on a Temex LPFRS-01 Rubidium standard functions.” ++ The spec sheet says 0-5 volts for analog adjustment. The unit supplies a 5V hi-stability

Re: [time-nuts] MiniMac 2816AT

2011-03-07 Thread Hal Murray
I love the lightweight comment. It has to weigh 20kg! Is there a Moore's law for size/weight of GPS receivers? Has anybody plotted it? -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks.   I recall seeing documentation that more or less said that directly connecting these units to an RS232 port will typically work but is not guaranteed.  If you are able to easily check your unit that would be great but I will likely try connecting mine to an RS232 port in the next few

[time-nuts] NTP IRIG config help

2011-03-07 Thread Jim Kusznir
Hello: I'm not sure if this is the right place; I've been having trouble finding current info / discussions on NTP on linux. I have a SEL 2407 clock (http://www.selinc.com/sel-2407/) that I was trying to make more useful by providing NTP service to the university (and others). This clock has

Re: [time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/07/2011 07:45 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: Thanks. I recall seeing documentation that more or less said that directly connecting these units to an RS232 port will typically work but is not guaranteed. If you are able to easily check your unit that would be great but I will likely try

Re: [time-nuts] MiniMac 2816AT

2011-03-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/07/2011 07:41 PM, Hal Murray wrote: I love the lightweight comment. It has to weigh 20kg! Is there a Moore's law for size/weight of GPS receivers? Has anybody plotted it? Should be possible, but one should consider similar properties like L1/L2 carrier phase tracking and storage.

Re: [time-nuts] NTP IRIG config help

2011-03-07 Thread Chris Albertson
There is an NTP email list. questi...@lists.ntp.org But really, all you need is the 1PPS output and some pool servers. If you have PPS working then all you need is a way to number the seconds and anything can do that. Yes the PPS driver works with other non-NMEA ref clocks It would be good to

Re: [time-nuts] Temex LPFRS-01 analog frequency adjustement

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks The doccumentation regardings RS232 controll looks usefull.   (I had not seen this before, and in case any one else is following this thread here is a link..) http://www.spectratime.com/documents/lpfrs_rs_232.pdf Regards Mark S   - Original Message From: Magnus Danielson

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Hal Murray
Would it be possible to build a much simpler version that used a line array phased to null the nearby tower. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible. I don't expect it to be high volume so it probably won't be low cost. It will also kill any satellites in the circle that goes

Re: [time-nuts] latest on the lightsquared 'saga'

2011-03-07 Thread Matt Osborn
iLotus has the new TX Oncore timing receiver with a built in saw filter and -159db sensitivity. Has anyone had a chance to put it through its paces? -- kc0ukk at msosborn dot com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Where does the VXI E1740A fit in ?

2011-03-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I have never seen any register level info on them. It may be out there. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:11 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] NTP IRIG config help

2011-03-07 Thread Harlan Stenn
Have you seen: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringIrigRefclocks Feel free to nose around on other ConfiguringRefclocks pages, and add questions or improve the content. H ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] NTP IRIG config help

2011-03-07 Thread Russell Rezaian
This may sound a bit basic, so apologies if you have already passed this particular hurdle, but there are several different types of IRIG time code. A number of the clocks I have which generate IRIG can generate different versions of IRIG (e.g. IRIG B, IRIG H) If memory serves, the NTP code

Re: [time-nuts] NTP IRIG config help

2011-03-07 Thread Hal Murray
After playing with levels and such for a while, I got it to give me a timecode = 00 , but no other numbers after that, and it appears its not sync'ing to it. If I turn up the audio at all, I start getting errors indicating overdriven IRIG, and if I unplug it, I get other errros reported, so

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Since you are after timing off of the sat's, having antennas that move, either physically or electrically seems like a problem. Any shift in the effective antenna location as you tracked the satellite would be exciting to compensate for. There was an early paper published based on doing

[time-nuts] Update on the FRSc RB reference recovery and other info

2011-03-07 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. Its been 2 weeks plus since I heated the FRS c up and regained lamp ignition. In fact the lamps brightened by about .5-.75v or just over 8 volts now. Not bad from below 1.83v as I recall. That may not be a valid number at all. More accurate statement dead. So thats been a

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Hal Murray
Since you are after timing off of the sat's, having antennas that move, either physically or electrically seems like a problem. Any shift in the effective antenna location as you tracked the satellite would be exciting to compensate for. There was an early paper published based on doing this

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Tom Van Baak
I think it's simple, at least in the nice/common cases. If the antenna geometry has a point that everything swivels around, consider that to the the location of the antenna. I think that covers the typical alt-az mount: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altazimuth_mount The point is where those

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Since you are after timing off of the sat's, having antennas that move, either physically or electrically seems like a problem. Any shift in the effective antenna location as you tracked the satellite would be exciting to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Filter

2011-03-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/08/2011 05:22 AM, Hal Murray wrote: Since you are after timing off of the sat's, having antennas that move, either physically or electrically seems like a problem. Any shift in the effective antenna location as you tracked the satellite would be exciting to compensate for. There was an