Re: [time-nuts] PIC processor CTMU module used for sub-ns TIC applications?

2011-04-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4daa7be5.5060...@sfr.fr>, cook michael writes: >Le 17/04/2011 00:20, beale a =E9crit : >> The application note merely asserts the possibility, but neglects to >present a specific design. Has anyone here attempted to use a PIC CTMU >in that way? I tried it when I had a pic18f25j50 in

Re: [time-nuts] PIC processor CTMU module used for sub-ns TIC applications?

2011-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
beale wrote: I see Microchip application note AN1375 at http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01375a.pdf suggests that the CTMU module included in some recent PIC parts, for example PIC18F46J11 can be used as a TIC building block for interpolating time intervals with sub-ns resolutio

Re: [time-nuts] PIC processor CTMU module used for sub-ns TIC applications?

2011-04-16 Thread cook michael
Le 17/04/2011 00:20, beale a écrit : The application note merely asserts the possibility, but neglects to present a specific design. Has anyone here attempted to use a PIC CTMU in that way? The app note doesn't give a complete design, but the principle of precision time measurement is explained

Re: [time-nuts] Datronn Wavetek 4910

2011-04-16 Thread Oz-in-DFW
I suspect this was an inadvertent mis-post to time-nuts intended for volt-nuts On 4/16/2011 4:01 PM, WB6BNQ wrote: > JF, > > Not meaning to be unfriendly, BUT this list * * IS NOT * * a "general" test > equipment repair faculty. > > The unit in question is a series of regulated voltage sources

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Chuck Harris
Rick Karlquist wrote: FWIW: The guts of a BNC/TNC is very similar if not identical to a type N, which is good for at least 12.4 GHz. The Agilent 13 GHz scopes have "precision" (IE tight fitting) BNC connectors on the probes. All of which of course doesn't mean the Asian BNC's you bought at the

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Rick Karlquist
Oz-in-DFW wrote: > > BNCs can be as good as TNCs when properly applied, but the bayonet > mechanism allows too much mechanical alignment play for reasonable > reliability past a GHz or so. If they are properly installed and the > cable is not allowed to put a radial or significant tensile load the

[time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Brucekareen
An Amphenol document discussing the mating compatibility of their 50-ohm and 75-ohm BNC connectors can be found here _http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/bnc.asp?N=0&sid=46B11E806D75617F_ (http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/bnc.asp?N=0&sid=46B11E806D75617F) . Bruce, KG6OJI _

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Chuck Harris
HP made a point of telling users that the 75 ohm female BNC connectors used on HP equipment were fully and safely mate-able with standard male 50 ohm parts. This has been so certainly from the 1970's. Casual inspection of the part shows that it uses the identical center pin set as the 50 ohm par

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 4/16/2011 2:59 PM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: > As pointed out earlier (by Bruce and others), there is a vast quantity of 75 > ohm BNC connectors which mate perfectly with 50 ohm BNC sockets (save for > impedance mismatch). I have a set of 10 cables bought off the *bay with such > connectors

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared gets at least some political attention

2011-04-16 Thread lists
You also have to wonder why cable was able to get their own HDTV standard. I did a bit of video design in the day. I was told SECAM was such a mess that the studios did everything in PAL and converted to SECAM for transmission. Also, NTSC was never a standard. It was issued as a bulletin, a le

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared gets at least some political attention

2011-04-16 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
John wrote: IMO, your crack about NTSC is unjustified. IMO, NTSC color was a very elegant engineering solution to backwards compatability. Without that, we could well be still watching B&W. The other contemporary backward-compatible solutions -- PAL and SECAM -- did not suffer from the color

[time-nuts] PIC processor CTMU module used for sub-ns TIC applications?

2011-04-16 Thread beale
I see Microchip application note AN1375 at http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01375a.pdf suggests that the CTMU module included in some recent PIC parts, for example PIC18F46J11 can be used as a TIC building block for interpolating time intervals with sub-ns resolution. I gather thi

Re: [time-nuts] Datronn Wavetek 4910

2011-04-16 Thread WB6BNQ
JF, Not meaning to be unfriendly, BUT this list * * IS NOT * * a "general" test equipment repair faculty. The unit in question is a series of regulated voltage sources that are adjustable. Being adjustable means it is not absolute. Equally so, your 3458A is, likewise, adjustable and is tot

Re: [time-nuts] cheap 5V OCXO in 14DIP has about 1E-9 drift per day

2011-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Oz-in-DFW wrote: On 4/9/2011 11:29 AM, Greg Broburg wrote: I expect that I am missing something obvious here a little nudge may help. Regards; Greg What you are missing is that the concept only applies to small integer (2 or 3) division ratios and won't work as spe

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread shalimr9
As pointed out earlier (by Bruce and others), there is a vast quantity of 75 ohm BNC connectors which mate perfectly with 50 ohm BNC sockets (save for impedance mismatch). I have a set of 10 cables bought off the *bay with such connectors. These cables are 75 ohm, so there will be a mismatch in

Re: [time-nuts] cheap 5V OCXO in 14DIP has about 1E-9 drift per day

2011-04-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Oz-in-DFW wrote: On 4/9/2011 11:29 AM, Greg Broburg wrote: I expect that I am missing something obvious here a little nudge may help. Regards; Greg What you are missing is that the concept only applies to small integer (2 or 3) division ratios and won't work as speculated here.

Re: [time-nuts] cheap 5V OCXO in 14DIP has about 1E-9 drift per day

2011-04-16 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 4/9/2011 11:29 AM, Greg Broburg wrote: > > > I expect that I am missing something obvious here > a little nudge may help. > > Regards; > > Greg > What you are missing is that the concept only applies to small integer (2 or 3) division ratios and won't work as speculated here. It's sort of (l

Re: [time-nuts] BNC Question

2011-04-16 Thread Oz-in-DFW
No Stan, you are correct. **True** 75 ohm BNCs (and Ns and TNCs as well) use a substantially smaller center pin and no insulation support around the female contacts. Mating a 50 ohm spec male part (plug) will invariably damage a 75 ohm female (receptacle.) Amphenol made a **proprietary** series

[time-nuts] Speaking of precise 32.768 kHz based clocks: DS3231

2011-04-16 Thread Mark Sims
To answer my own question...  it's a ROHS lead-free device that contains lead! -- What will they think of next? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.

[time-nuts] Speaking of precise 32.768 kHz based clocks: DS3231

2011-04-16 Thread Mark Sims
The chip has 8 NC - No Connect pins...  that must be connected to GND.   What will they think of next? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

[time-nuts] Speaking of precise 32.768 kHz based clocks: DS3231

2011-04-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Peripherally relevant to the recent discussion about accurate wristwatches I want to point out an interesting chip: Dallas/Maxim DS3231 This is a CMOS clock with built in 32.768 kHz X-tal and a couple of neat tricks: Every 64 seconds, it measures the temperature, and adjust the capacitive loadi

[time-nuts] Datronn Wavetek 4910

2011-04-16 Thread JF PICARD
I am looking for the service manual of the Datron Wavetek 4910. I have just got  this reference standard from Ebay : is it normal to see 3 cells at 2 or 3 µv under 10V  and one at + 13µv (23°C with 3458A just calibrated yesterday) or it is an obvious problem with the cell (the third one) ? What

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared gets at least some political attention

2011-04-16 Thread J. Forster
IMO, your crack about NTSC is unjustified. In the 1950s, TV and electronics was in it's infancy. No transistors, no ICs, and a large base of installed, expensive sets. A TV set cost about as much as a car! IMO, NTSC color was a very elegant engineering solution to backwards compatability. Without

Re: [time-nuts] SRS PRS10 problem

2011-04-16 Thread Brendan Minish
Just a follow-up for others that may run into this someday I took apart the PRS10 and disassembled the lamp assembly, Not easy.. I discovered that the MRF134 in there was still functional but that there was a second short that was preventing oscillation, this looked to be due to solder reflowing

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared gets at least some political attention

2011-04-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/16/2011 06:17 AM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: Magnus wrote: But have you gone SFN? That would compact the frequency needs such that LTE style broadband could be done in UHF instead of breaking up the GPS signal. See above -- the FCC already intends to repurpose the UHF TV spectrum for w

[time-nuts] Trak 8810 GPSDO manual

2011-04-16 Thread VK3XYZ
Hi all, I have a Trak Microwave 8810 station clock and I'm looking for the operator manual, in particular appendix E to adjust the default DAC voltage. I tried Trak but they were not able to help too much. They sent me a manual extract for an 8812 but the serial port commands to set the DAC don'