Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread cook michael
Le 02/08/2011 04:35, Michael Sokolov a écrit : snip Henry Hallamhe...@pericynthion.org wrote: The parameters you'll want for conversion between MCAT and mean solar time are given daily in the IERS bulletins: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/products/bulletins/bulletins.html Yes, I know. By

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello again, Thank you all for your recommendations. It looks like I will go with a ThunderBolt: I have found Trimble's manual online, read all of it, and it looks like the unit will do exactly what I am after. I will feed all 3 outputs from the TBolt (10 MHz, 1 PPS, EIA-232) to a custom

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Michael Sokolov msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: Hello again, Thank you all for your recommendations.  It looks like I will go with a ThunderBolt: I have found Trimble's manual online, read all of it, and it looks like the unit will do exactly what I am after.

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Why such complex a system when you don't need it?An FPGA??? Fixing a logic mistake in an FPGA involves editing a Verilog source file and recompiling; fixing a logic mistake in discrete logic involves a board respin. I much prefer editing

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Tijd Dingen
As someone who is currently tinkering with a design in an fpga I had to smile at that statement. :-) If you want the edit + compile, then you may want to rethink that part. There are plenty of microcontrollers out there that are significantly easier to get going. And yes, you can do things

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 8601 Rebuild Question

2011-08-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/01/2011 10:58 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: I did find Pope's site earlier after looking for Dewar flasks on eBay. They don't have one that's close enough in size to be worth the cost premium over a standard Thermos bottle. Same with a Google search for other Dewar

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Michael Sokolov msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: Fixing a logic mistake in an FPGA involves editing a Verilog source file and recompiling; fixing a logic mistake in discrete logic involves a board respin.  I much prefer editing ASCII text source files and

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: NTP software can keep system time within a few milliseconds of UTC. No custom hardware, no FPGA or PCB. But I _*REFUSE*_ to do it that way. You've mentioned UTC: that's one thing I'm taking great care to avoid in my solution. I want my system

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Chris Stake
If you live your life on a timescale that is anchored to mean solar time, what happens on February 29th? Chris -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sokolov Sent: 02 August 2011 20:33 To: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Mike S
At 05:33 PM 8/2/2011, Chris Stake wrote... If you live your life on a timescale that is anchored to mean solar time, what happens on February 29th? Nothing. From the OP: I want MJD numbers instead of Gregorian dates, or GPS week numbers / day-of-week / time-of-day.

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Chris Stake
I don't get it. Does that mean that leap days are OK but leap seconds are unacceptable? Chris -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: 02 August 2011 23:02 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Chris Stake st...@btinternet.com wrote: I don't get it. Does that mean that leap days are OK but leap seconds are unacceptable? It's even less logical than that. With rubber seconds tied to the Earth's rotation. You ultra stable cesium clock is no longer

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread cook michael
Le 03/08/2011 00:49, Chris Stake a écrit : I don't get it. Does that mean that leap days are OK but leap seconds are unacceptable? Chris For the moment yes, as they are animals from two different species. Leap seconds form part of the current definition of UTC which is a time scale, even

[time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Mark Sims
Yep, Lady Heather does several versions of the Mayan, Aztek, and Druid calendars you can specify the correlation constant to suit your interpretation of the reference date. That said of all the systems I like the Mayan one best. They defined the year as 360 days.

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread shalimr9
Michael, You are entitled to your opinions, but opinions that cannot be expressed with civility like those in the message below have no place on this list. You are welcome to keep them for yourself. Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original

[time-nuts] Weird TEC data

2011-08-02 Thread Scott Newell
Here's the latest plot from my TEC test rigs. Y-axis is phase error (in 60 Hz cycles), X-axis is time in MJD. The plot starts at 7AM local time. http://n5tnl.com/tec/tec_test_01.png Same serial connected embedded hardware, timestamped on the receipt of first character. One machine (red