[time-nuts] WWVB PSK demodulation; simple carrier regeneration?

2012-11-19 Thread Peter Monta
Here are a few demodulated frames of WWVB's new BPSK bits: 0011101101000 01101 0(0)001100111(0)011011011(0)1010110 00 0 000 00 0 0011101101000 00100 0(1)001100111(1)011011011(1)1010111 00 0 000 00 0 0011101101000 01000 0(0)001100111(0)011011011(0)1011000 00 0 000 00 0 The fields are d

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom PRFS202 Portable Rb Freq. Std. Manual

2012-11-19 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Ed, You just hit the nail in the head. That is exactly the unit I am talking about. But instead of showing Datum as the brand in the spec sheet you kindly sent to me, it says Efratom. With all those mergers among T&F companies who knows! I assume that the design is the same, unless someone

Re: [time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis

2012-11-19 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear John Ackermann, I find your reply to my request to be very interesting. Without fear of asking. May I know how do I achieve a Tau 0 measurement in a 1 second interval with my setup? (HP-53132A + TimeLab). Please tell me if I am wrong. I assume I would take the 10 MHz output from the 531

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom PRFS202 Portable Rb Freq. Std. Manual

2012-11-19 Thread Ed Palmer
I don't know about the '202' part, but here's a data sheet for the PRFS: http://www.gigatest.net/datum/PRFSDS.pdf The data sheet doesn't say which Rb oscillator is inside. Is it one of the standard Datum models or a special one? Ed On 11/20/2012 12:47 AM, Edgardo Molina wrote: Dear Group,

Re: [time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis

2012-11-19 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear John Miles, John Ackermann, Adrian, Tom and Bob, Thank you all for your wisdom on this topic. I have enjoyed the weekend getting graphs from my frequency standards taking care of your advise and comments. I will soon be able to post them to my newborn web page. Details coming soon. Bes

[time-nuts] Efratom PRFS202 Portable Rb Freq. Std. Manual

2012-11-19 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Group, Good morning. I recently got an Efratom PRFS202 Portable Rubidium Frequency Standard. Mint condition. Locking in 3 minutes or so. Outputs OK, both sine and TTL. It seems a simple straightforward instrument. Still I would like to know if anybody has a manual available for it. I tri

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread J. L. Trantham
I'm interested. BTW, good work! Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:53 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work Don lets see h

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 100, Issue 75

2012-11-19 Thread hardy
ren In a message dated 11/19/2012 4:38:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mspr...@suddenlink.net writes: "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work Please add me to the list. Thanks Maury Sproul W5UGQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscr

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread DARRELL ROBINSON
Please put a tic next to my name. I am interested as well and await details. Darrell - Original Message - From: cdel...@juno.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:04:12 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work Hi Everyone!

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work detail Info please read

2012-11-19 Thread David McQuate
Hi Bert, What kind or sort of documentation is needed? schematics? PC layout? software / firmware documentation? I've been programming PICs intermittently for 10+ years. Some of my projects use 2 or 4 line LCD displays. I have given other microcontrollers a short test spin. I've also done s

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread SAIDJACK
There is one calibration that can only be started by a GPIB command. I ran into that, my unit constantly said something like "xxx calibration required" or similar during power on. No way to do it with the front panel buttons. It is easy to start that cal using Visi, or via sending a GPIB com

[time-nuts] "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
Count me in, preferably for the 4 channel model. -- Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tim

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work please hold off, 4 channel picture attached

2012-11-19 Thread James Tucker
Waiting with bated breath JimT Sent from *my* galaxy. On Nov 19, 2012 3:53 PM, wrote: > listPlease hold off, tomorrow I will have a detailed description of the > total project. Interest seems to be large and soon we will find a way to > make > it available to every one. Waiting for Ju

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Malcolm
Please include me in for a kit of the two input unit and I wouldd possibly be interested in a higher spec unit as well. Regards Malcolm G0MIC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/lis

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 100, Issue 73

2012-11-19 Thread Eric Haskell
I am interested. Eric Haskell > From: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com > Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 100, Issue 73 > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:10:21 + > > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@febo.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the Worl

[time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work detail Info please read

2012-11-19 Thread EWKehren
Allow me to put all this in perspective. Three years ago having just joined time-nuts I started to be interested in Dual Mixers. Having CS and Rb my main interest was and still is low noise signal generators and I have all the HP equipment for those measurements. Did my first Shera Rb abo

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts TIC

2012-11-19 Thread Kit Scally
Hi Guys, Count me in also please ! Kit VK1LL / VK2LL * As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase details will post. We also will post a FAQ for this project. Thanks, Corby The New "Skinny" Fr

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Maurice Sproul
> > "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work > > Please add me to the list. Thanks Maury Sproul W5UGQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread bownes
+1 please! On Nov 19, 2012, at 16:23, mcqu...@sonic.net wrote: >> >> "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work >> >> >> Hi Everyone! >> >> I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg >> Koegel >> and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. > > > Please add my name to the list! > Thank yo

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread dlewis6767
pls add me to your list. -Don -- From: "Rob S." Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:57 PM To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work I'm interested as well, Thank

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Alan Hochhalter
I'm interested in one as well. Alan On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase > details will post. > > We also will post a FAQ for this project. > > Thanks, > > Corby >

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread mcquate
> > "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work > > > Hi Everyone! > > I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg > Koegel > and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. > Please add my name to the list! Thank you, Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list --

[time-nuts] Fwd: Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Count me in for A kit. Regards Gerald VK3GJM Sent > Subject: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work > Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > > As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase > details will post. > > We also will post a F

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Adrian
count me in. Adrian cdel...@juno.com schrieb: As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase details will post. We also will post a FAQ for this project. Thanks, Corby The New "Skinny" Fruit How This Strange

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Corby and Bert -- Count me in! John On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:15 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: > As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase > details will post. > > We also will post a FAQ for this project. > > Thanks, > > Corby > ___

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Rob S.
I'm interested as well, Thanks Guys, Rob. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:53 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work Don lets

[time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD

2012-11-19 Thread James Robbins
Enthusiastically read about the above. Put me on the list also, please. A "kit" would be worth a premium price. Jim Robbins, N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Jim Cotton
I am interested in one. Jim Cotton On 11/19/12 3:28 PM, Daniel Mendes wrote: At this interest rate you´ll sell more units than Apple will sell Iphone 5´s... ;) Daniel Em 19/11/2012 18:15, cdel...@juno.com escreveu: As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase de

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Daniel Mendes
At this interest rate you´ll sell more units than Apple will sell Iphone 5´s... ;) Daniel Em 19/11/2012 18:15, cdel...@juno.com escreveu: As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase details will post. We also will post a FAQ for this project. Thanks, Corby __

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Bob Martin
SIgn me up for one! Bob K6RTM in sunny Silicon Valley > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:53:16 -0500 (EST) > From: ewkeh...@aol.com > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work > Message-ID: <2822f.5cd0eab7.3ddbe...@

[time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread cdelect
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Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Erno Peres
Hi Gents, please put me on the list. I should like to have one unit or a KIT. Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Volker Esper To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work 'd li

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Daniel Mendes
Sign me in too... Daniel Em 19/11/2012 17:57, Volker Esper escreveu: I'd like to be on the list. Definitely. Where do I have to pay? Volker Am 19.11.2012 20:04, schrieb cdel...@juno.com: "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work Hi Everyone! I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Volker Esper
I'd like to be on the list. Definitely. Where do I have to pay? Volker Am 19.11.2012 20:04, schrieb cdel...@juno.com: "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work Hi Everyone! I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg Koegel and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. It has 9 digits/S

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread EWKehren
Don lets see how much interest and which counter and in the 2 channel it is 3 PIC's and 1 G/A and the 4 channel 5 PIC's and 2 G/A. Easy to solder Juerg and I are 70+ so soldering is a key consideration Bert Kehren. In a message dated 11/19/2012 2:48:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@m

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread Don Latham
uh, ok, how do we order the boards? Don L cdel...@juno.com > > "MINI-TIC" for DMTD work > > > Hi Everyone! > > I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg > Koegel > and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. > > It has 9 digits/Sec. and with a 1HZ offset in the DMTD unit give

[time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread cdelect
"MINI-TIC" for DMTD work Hi Everyone! I've been testing a Miniature 2 channel TIC that Bert Kehren and Juerg Koegel and Richard Mc Corkle have designed. It has 9 digits/Sec. and with a 1HZ offset in the DMTD unit gives a resolution of 1X10-15th at 10 MHz, 2X10-15 with a 5 MHz input, when meas

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Adrian, Take a look at Patent # US 6226231 B1 for a schematic of the interpolator used in the Wavecrest DTS-2075. It may be similar to what you are trying to troubleshoot and might give you some ideas. Richard > In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service > manuals. All r

[time-nuts] Agilent - have now ageed to cover my losses

2012-11-19 Thread David Kirkby
I know people on here complained it was not a Paypal mailing list, and it should stop. But I thought I'd post this. If you want to comment, drop me a private email, and not on the list. == Dear David, We would like to offer you compensation for the loss you have incurred from the Paypal transa

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Adrian
Hi Henk, as by the component date codes, my unit is probably from 1998. Some - possibly replacement - boards have date codes up to late 2000. Upon power up this error message is displayed: 'Path Checksum Error - Perform External Calibration' DC Cal. finishes, but the next step with cal output

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 two frequency maxima

2012-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I've always wondered if the magic A1U1 1820-2312 in the 5380A has a frequency multiplier of some sort in it. I've never dug into it far enough to answer the question though. Bob On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Volker Esper wrote: > > As far as I can see the PLL loop filter (SR620) has a co

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (maybe fixed)

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Howard
It's been running a few days now and everything looks good. I usually fail on the side of optimism, but hope things continue. Thanks very much to the group for patience and support. Chris Howard ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To uns

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Henk
Hi, The Wavecrest DTS 207X has a number of proms and also battery back-up devices. I think it will be wise to check these first. Or are you sure that it is hardware? How old is your DTS? Henk > In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service > manuals. All repair is depot.re