[time-nuts] eLoran for GPS backup

2013-01-09 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
The Brits are turning their Loran system back on to protect against GPS outages from jamming or space weather: http://www.gpsworld.com/uk-switches-on-eloran-for-backup-in-the-english-channel/ -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for

[time-nuts] Silicon Chip 2.5GHz 12 Digit Frequency Counter

2013-01-09 Thread Merv Thomas
Hi, The January issue of the article is now available so it would be interesting to get further comments from members. Previous comments were generally very critical of this Jim Rowe designed unit and one in particular commented on the non availability of the source code for some of the

Re: [time-nuts] eLoran for GPS backup

2013-01-09 Thread REEVES Paul
Actually it has been on all the time - this is just a more extensive implementation of the (formerly experimental) e-loran 'add-in' to target high usage areas. Paul Reeves G8GJA -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of

[time-nuts] CPU clock jitter

2013-01-09 Thread M. Simon
Message: 1 I was thinking more along the lines of large jitter in the CPU clock. A clock shortened by 1/8th cycle could play havoc with CPU operation. Of course you could do the experiment to see what happens. Or you could divide by 10 and only worry about the rest of the problems. Simon

Re: [time-nuts] eLoran for GPS backup

2013-01-09 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Chuck, It never went off!! The French are spear-heading this. An experimental eLoran station was run from Rugby (GBR site) before it finally closed then the gear was relocated to be run by VT Communications, now Babcock I believe, based on Anthorn (south bank of the Solway Firth). This uses

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are a number of counters that are a lot better than what you have. There's also a limited amount of money in the universe. I'd suggest setting a rational budget and time frame. This is all used gear. You *might* get a perfect one that never ever breaks. More likely you will need to

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread dlewis6767
Thank you Bob, Ed, Magnus , ..and all. Excellent reviews, ...detailed and clear. I REALLY do appreciate it. HP has turned out so much equipment over the years, it is often good to see a comparison. This was excellent. I'll wait for a good deal, and don the road bid alongside many of

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Keep in mind that the good prices are generally for gear that is in the don't know if it works at all category. The prices go up quickly for stuff that has had even basic checks run on it. It's rare to find any of this stuff with a believable iron clad guarantee / certification that it runs

Re: [time-nuts] eLoran for GPS backup

2013-01-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 3B5BC99D4C814337985A6DE70F6AAC60@gnat, Alan Melia writes: Most of the financers of the Baltic Sylt chain do not seem enthusiastic but it remains on (I believe subsidised by the French) I belive UK and France carries the entire cost of the NELS chains now. -- Poul-Henning

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/09/2013 05:39 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: In the past there has been much discussion on this list regarding the relative strengths and weaknesses of the 5370 (20ps resolution) and the 5371/5372 (150ps resolution) units. There are other units that have even better resolution, but they tend to be

[time-nuts] Ault SW-305 wiring colours

2013-01-09 Thread John Nelson
I bought a Thunderbolt via TAPR some time ago which came complete with an Ault SW-305 PSU. For some reason I can't find the documentation that came with it and don't have the wiring colour codes. A diligent search of the internet hasn't thrown up anything -- can any kind soul please assist?

Re: [time-nuts] Ault SW-305 wiring colours

2013-01-09 Thread GandalfG8
Hi John The information below was posted to the list by another member back in 2008. I never used the SW305 power supply with mine and haven't confirmed these connections, so the Check before use is still very good advice:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR --- CHECK

Re: [time-nuts] Ault SW-305 wiring colours

2013-01-09 Thread Tom Van Baak
I bought a Thunderbolt via TAPR some time ago which came complete with an Ault SW-305 PSU. For some reason I can't find the documentation that came with it and don't have the wiring colour codes. A diligent search of the internet hasn't thrown up anything -- can any kind soul please assist?

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
and don't forget the PM6681 (50pS) On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 01/09/2013 05:39 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: In the past there has been much discussion on this list regarding the relative strengths and weaknesses of the 5370 (20ps

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Rex
On 1/9/2013 12:48 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: and don't forget the PM6681 (50pS) The PM6681 was sold by Fluke/Philips. The same counter is also occasionally seen as the Pendulum CNT-81. Additional good features: small, light, and quiet. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Magnus

[time-nuts] Simple method for comparing 10 MHz signals

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Quenelle
I kept putting off buying a nice counter and finally decided to try a phase detector circuit to compare 10 MHz standards. It’s not novel, but I like the results so far. It lets me see things I couldn’t see before. I thought the idea might be useful to some of us who are equipment-limited.

Re: [time-nuts] Simple method for comparing 10 MHz signals

2013-01-09 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Bob, Thanks for sharing that. Many of the atomic clock phase comparators from the 70's and 80's were based on this time-honored technique. The use of different taps/scales is clever. Note that once you have an ascii data file from LabJack you can feed that into John's TimeLab program for

Re: [time-nuts] Simple method for comparing 10 MHz signals

2013-01-09 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bob Quenelle wrote: I kept putting off buying a nice counter and finally decided to try a phase detector circuit to compare 10 MHz standards. It’s not novel, but You might want to try this phase detector instead of reinventing the wheel:

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/10/2013 12:02 AM, Rex wrote: On 1/9/2013 12:48 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: and don't forget the PM6681 (50pS) The PM6681 was sold by Fluke/Philips. The same counter is also occasionally seen as the Pendulum CNT-81. Additional good features: small, light, and quiet. A bit more history

[time-nuts] Phase Detector was -- Simple method for comparing 10 MHz signals

2013-01-09 Thread M. Simon
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