Re: [time-nuts] UPDATE: DATUM 9390-52054 Grief again...

2013-04-13 Thread Rob Kimberley
Burt, what is your DAC setting now it's stabilised? It is normally set so it is mid-range when setting these units up. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Burt I. Weiner Sent: 12 April 2013 19:49 To: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread mehdi
hi dears i'm newer here. i have some questions about loran-c receiver.can you help me? i want to know how can i find third zero crossing in loran-c receiver? i find third zero cross by peterson 's method from this paper: Analysis of Noise and Cycle Selection in a Loran Receiver but due to

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi, I don't know this model from Austron, but you could try asking fellow Time Nuts if anyone has a manual for the 5000 which should include the full calibration procedure. I know on the Austron 2000C the calibration procedure was quite a long to set it up correctly. I'm sure that the 5000 will

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The concept you most commonly see is a curve fit approach. You know the structure of the waveform through several cycles. You can fit this model waveform to the observed data over a large number of points. As you fit more points, the impact of the noise is reduced. Bob On Apr 13, 2013, at

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread brent evers
Scotchkote! Yes - Thank you for the correction! The other could lead to disaster! Nope - not ex-navy. Its pretty standard practice in the offshore world. My time was spent on research vessels down in Antarctica. Apologies for the mix-up. Brent On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:37 PM, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
Its a master timing rcvr from the simple research I have done. Must be fallout from the US LORAN C shut down. Anyhow The whole signal spec is here. http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=loranSignalSpec Its a 8 MB zip I have done the 2000 procedure and it is complicated to say the least. Given the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
An additional thought. The third cycle is not the thing you would see on a scope looking at the raw signal. The rcvr determines when the signal has risen above 0. That may be 1 to 2 really small cycles. Its from that point its the 3rd crossing. Normally there is a gate out signal thats useful to

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
See if this helps: http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/au2100f/scope.htm /tvb (iPhone4) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
OK, so we seem to have: 1) Scotch 130 rubber tape 2) Scotch 33 electrical tape 3) Scotchkote in that order. So the rubber tape waterproofs the connection and the scotch kote protects it from UV, so what does the electrical tape do? Or maybe, the electrical tape does the waterproofing and

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Hal Murray
Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax that the cable TV guys had left on the ground. It included a piece of heavy wall shrink tubing. There was a layer of sticky goop between the coax and the shrink tubing. -- These

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
Rick It is a very rare time I get to answer you. The plastic tape holds the rubber end initially, adds another layer of wx, and in reality is sacrificial to UV over the years. First the liquid rubber gives up. Then the plastic. Thats a big clue when it gets ratty. Time to change. Fact is even at

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread David
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:07:05 -0700, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax that the cable TV guys had left on the ground. It included a piece of heavy wall shrink tubing. There

Re: [time-nuts] UPDATE: DATUM 9390-52054 Grief again...

2013-04-13 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:48:47AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote: Sorry for the delay in posting this update. Things have been hectic, and then there was NAB. Here's what I've discovered: The receiver started working after about 6 hours of just sitting. However, the 9390's internal

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Think of heat shrink with a layer of hot melt glue on the inside. Such stuff is used in most outdoor and especially underground utility wiring. Shrink the tubing and it melts the glue and the contracting tubing forces the glue into every crevice making a great waterproof splice. On

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
Yes its from the heat shrink. When they shrink the wrap it forms an air proof seal. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread DaveH
Kind of a cool technology -- they bombard the outside of the tube with an electron beam that cross-links the polymer but leaves the inside untouched. The outside becomes hard but still shrinks. The inside just melts into a goo when heated. Dave -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:58 AM, brent evers brent.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Scotchkote! Yes - Thank you for the correction! The other could lead to disaster! Nope - not ex-navy. Its pretty standard practice in the offshore world. My time was spent on research vessels down in Antarctica. I