Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Chris Hoffman
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?Do=constellationStatus http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/space/ IIRC: 6 planes, 6 slots each, so 36 to cover the sphere, and the GPS aperture is big (high orbits) so guess up to 1/2 of the constellation could ever be in view (... yeah, right): 18? On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at

[time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Sims
The tube has a finite life time (probably less than 7 years of on-time, maybe as low as 3 years) and costs a BUNCH to replace. I only run mine when I need to. I warm mine up overnight before I use it to let it stabilize. Plus make sure you run it for a day or two every 6 months or so to keep

[time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Sims
My tbolt is reporting 29 currently active PRNs... 27 Sats in the sky. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Magnus Danielson
Well, you would think so... There is 37 PRN codes, of which the top 5 is for testing. However, in the modern ICD: http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/IS-GPS-200H.pdf you will find that there is an extended set of PRN codes, and for the C/A code the modulation is the same, just that the

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread David J Taylor
Is there a practical limit to the number of GPS sats overhead at any one time? I ask this because I'd like to start parsing this info from my ublox receiver and need to setup an array for the values. Memory is not unlimited on my PIC. Bob - AE6RV == Others have

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Leave it off most of the time. Fire it up once a month for a day or two, set things against it. Bob On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: I lucked out on a very squeaky clean FTS 4060 CS standard. Started up right away and appears to have a strong tube. My

[time-nuts] NTP 4.2.8p3 installer for Windows available

2015-07-10 Thread Martin Burnicki
Hello everybody, just wanted to let you know that the NTP installer for Windows provided by Meinberg has been updated: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable This installer provides the current NTP 4.2.8p3 stable version as well as openSSL DLL 1.0.1p, which has been

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Magnus Danielson
It's the ion-pump that needs running. Then, the OCXO needs heating before running the cesium tube. Cheers, Magnus On 07/10/2015 07:25 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: Pretty much the same as Paul, I do it every 4 months. I'll soon have a timer to turn the unit on a few hours every 120 days or

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Dr. Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts
Who has a Cs standard I can buy. ? Ulrich Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2015, at 3:17 PM, John Miles j...@miles.io wrote: Few people need the CS on all the time. The other funny thing on the HP series you can turn the tube off and just use the OCXO after its been adjusted accurately.

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz line data

2015-07-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Does anyone east of the Rockies have any similar data? At one time, the US FERC was going to deregulate frequency control to reduce the amount of fuel used to accelerate in order to catch up. The billing for power exchanged with a regional network is based on the number of cycles produced or

[time-nuts] Loran and SRS FS700 in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
This is a reply to the topic Loran-C reception in the UK with specific emphasis on the Stanford Research FS700. Apologies for starting a fresh topic but I'm still not able to take emails from the list due to incompatibility problems with AOL and I don't see how to reply to an existing

[time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. Is there any future for LORAN-C in the UK? I am looking for a frequency reference that is not GPS - I already have a GPS frequency reference but

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread paul swed
As Mark says the tubes have a very finite life. So like him I turn mine on as needed and every 6 months. My tube is on absolute fumes and is very very marginal. But it still locks on its own in something like 16 hours with almost impossible to see beam current. So if you follow the every 6 months

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Azelio Boriani
From http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/space/ Block IIA: 3 operational Block IIR and IIR(M): 19 operational Block IIF: 9 operational so they should be 31 satellites working. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Well, you would think so... There is 37

[time-nuts] 60Hz line data

2015-07-10 Thread Hal Murray
My collection recently rolled over the year boundary: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/line/Calif-60Hz-2014-2015.png The grid is 4 weeks in the X direction. The start of the Y offset is arbitrary. I picked the start of the data. The pairs of colors are a month. Within a month,

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Melia
Dave check with the Triniity House web site they are the sponsors of the Anthorn slave site, the master station is at Lessay on the St. Malo penninsular so should be strong. There is (or was) a full descrition of the option to GPSon the website. I believe there should be at least 5 years to

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Iain Young
Hi David On 10/07/15 13:14, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. My Austron 2100's lock on to Anthorn, Lessay, and Sylt. I'm in

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CANX10hBNdx82BawbHJ-DqbReEb3HH=rc2h4VckHx0Etfb=4...@mail.gmail.com , Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) writes: How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. It

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Wojciech Owczarek
Dave, I'm afraid I can't give you a quantitative answer about LORAN-C, but I can say that eLORAN is your friend. It has recently been revived in the US and it's doing all right in Europe, UK included. The promise in general is 50 ns to UTC. UrsaNav make some receivers and Chronos (who are a big

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Loran should work fine in the UK as long as the European chains stay up and running. They don’t seem to be at any risk of shutting down at the moment. Bob On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: How good/bad would a

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Pete Lancashire
Pretty much the same as Paul, I do it every 4 months. I'll soon have a timer to turn the unit on a few hours every 120 days or something like that. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:53 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: As Mark says the tubes have a very finite life. So like him I turn mine

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread Don Latham
THANKS, EVERYONE. OFF IT GOES. DON paul swed As Mark says the tubes have a very finite life. So like him I turn mine on as needed and every 6 months. My tube is on absolute fumes and is very very marginal. But it still locks on its own in something like 16 hours with almost impossible to see

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread John Miles
Few people need the CS on all the time. The other funny thing on the HP series you can turn the tube off and just use the OCXO after its been adjusted accurately. I run my HP 5065a Rb the same way. Power as needed and every 6 months. So you are very lucky to have a good CS. Rbs are a bit

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/10/15 6:23 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: From http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/space/ Block IIA: 3 operational Block IIR and IIR(M): 19 operational Block IIF: 9 operational so they should be 31 satellites working. Plus various and sundry WAAS and similar signals?

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Magnus Danielson
Yes, and the 10th Block IIF is 4 days from launch. We can expect there to take some time before it is brought into the constallation. It's only with Block III that we can expect this extended set of PRN codes to be supported and used. Cheers, Magnus On 07/10/2015 03:23 PM, Azelio Boriani

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Hal Murray
My tbolt is reporting 29 currently active PRNs... 27 Sats in the sky. Have you checked the satellite numbers/svid? They squeeze the WAAS satellites into the same number space. Are TBolts new enough to know about WAAS? -- These are my opinions. I hate

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Dave: The quality of the signal goes down with distance from the transmitter. If you get a sledgehammer sounding signal then you'll get a good time fix, but if you can barely hear the signal then the quality will be poor. Middletown, California to Ukiah, California is strong, but any

Re: [time-nuts] Number of GPS sats in the sky?

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: My tbolt is reporting 29 currently active PRNs... 27 Sats in the sky. Have you checked the satellite numbers/svid? They squeeze the WAAS satellites into the same number

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread ken hartman
from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease Loran transmissions at the end of 2015. Moreover, France intends to dismantle its Loran infrastructure in 2016. Arrangements for the commercial