Re: [time-nuts] NMEA Software

2012-12-20 Thread David J Taylor
Hi, Apologies if this has been asked 1000 times before. Is there any good software for reading the NMEA or Motorola binary code out of a M12M. I have winoncore, but wondered if there was anything a bit more modern. Regards Martyn == Martyn, Visua

Re: [time-nuts] Just for Fun - Synergy Systems SSR-6T PPS Comparison

2012-12-19 Thread David J Taylor
A Day in the Life of Five PPS Sources.. This probably does not qualify as a regular TimeNuts submission as there are no Tau's or 10^-12ths but I could not resist a simple scope capture of the Pulse Per Second output of my new SSR-6t toy from Synergy Systems as it performed its first right-out-of-

[time-nuts] ANN: UK GPS Jamming Notice update

2012-12-19 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following __ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISE: HEBRIDES RANGES, 8 to 12 April 2013 Dates. Between 8 and 12 April 13 Times. Between 10.00 to 12.00 GMT and 14.00 to 16.00 GMT daily. Location of jammer. The

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
Thank you, nice summary. One of my problems is that I am in Singapore. Soldering is not an issue in itself, but I cannot just order transistors and other small components online. You mention "low cost units which require you to add a power connector, etc". Could you recommend any that can be b

Re: [time-nuts] RaspberryPi and RADclock

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
From: paul swed Thanks. I really like the idea that a Rassberry Pi could be a time server. Maybe enough to get me going. Thanks === Paul, I wrote up my experiences with the Raspberry Pi as a standard NTP server here: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.h

Re: [time-nuts] Synergy SSR-6TR

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
David, Any chance you can buy it in your name and have it shipped somewhere in the States? That person then can forward it without losing their chance to get one as well. I have no experience shipping overseas but will second Bert's suggestion plus volunteer myself to do it, if need be. How can

Re: [time-nuts] Synergy SSR-6TR

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
David Unfortunately as easy as that is to do that would remove me from the buy 1 list. Sorry. You need a timenut that doesn't want one. :-) Paul WB8TSL == Yes, I appreciate that, Paul. Why I said "almost considered". But if there is someone willing, I would be

[time-nuts] ANN: UK Ofcom Update: GPS Jamming Notice, 18 and 22 March 2013

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following: _ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISE STANFORD TRAINING AREA, EAST ANGLIA, March 2013 Dates: Between 18 and 22 March 2013. Times: 0900 -1700 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Land based within 5km of N52° 29.0' E000° 45

Re: [time-nuts] Synergy SSR-6TR

2012-12-13 Thread David J Taylor
From: Don Latham Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:26 PM To: time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Synergy SSR-6TR The Synergy SSR-T6R timing GPS is indeed available for $35 on a one off basis. Shipping is about $10. The very best way to order is from: Gina Aspeytia [] However, the cheapest shipping

Re: [time-nuts] PPS offset between GPS receivers

2012-12-11 Thread David J Taylor
I'm not sure about the jammer but I'm running a timing receiver in position hold several floors up, I haven't seen dropouts like this. ntpd is running with a "noselect" NMEA source since I'm having problems with ntpd marking the PPS and NMEA as falsetickers. The startup sequence for the server is

Re: [time-nuts] PPS offset between GPS receivers

2012-12-11 Thread David J Taylor
From: Gabs Ricalde [] David, I forgot to thank you for your helpful site and NTP plotter. I have the antenna outside with a 180 degree view of the sky, outages should be rare. Looking at the loopstats, the outage during the 4 us jump is about 12 seconds. This is a test server, I only have the LO

Re: [time-nuts] PPS offset between GPS receivers

2012-12-11 Thread David J Taylor
I'm now using the SKG25A1 as a PPS source for an NTP server. Aside from the offset, I noticed a large offset jump in the NTP loopstats (attached) occurring about once a day. This is not the server oscillator drifting since the frequency graph looks good at this point and this behavior can sometime

Re: [time-nuts] PTTI 2012, part 3/3

2012-12-08 Thread David J Taylor
They did respond back and I am limited to 1. Wanted 2 but such is life. :-) Will order most likely Monday. Regards Paul WB8TSL You were lucky, Paul. I have so far received no response to my query. 73, David GM8ARV -- SatSignal Software - Quality software wri

[time-nuts] ANN: UK MSF 60 KHz shut-down on 13 December 2012 from 10:00 to 14:00 UTC

2012-12-06 Thread David J Taylor
Folk, I have received the following announcement: + Notice of Interruption MSF 60 kHz Time and Frequency Signal The MSF 60 kHz time and frequency signal broadcast from Anthorn Radio Station will be shut down on Thursday 13 December 2012 f

Re: [time-nuts] PPS offset between GPS receivers

2012-12-04 Thread David J Taylor
Hi Based on a quick look, the SkyNav does not appear to be a timing specific part. A 2 us error in a navigation part would come as a big surprise. Bob == Indeed! The PPS output of various navigation parts I've checked recently have typically been

[time-nuts] UK: GPS Jamming Notices

2012-12-03 Thread David J Taylor
I have received the three following notices: NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES STANFORD TRAINING AREA, EAST ANGLIA, FEBRUARY 2013 Dates: Between 11 and 15 February 2013. Times: 0900 -1600 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Land based within

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 chipset in Globaltop's FGPMMOPA6H

2012-11-22 Thread David J Taylor
Hello, while asking info about the FE5682, I realized that for another project (model plane data logging) I will buy some cheap gps modules built around an MT3339 chipset. In my mind somewhere I stored the fact that in the datasheet of these module is mentioned the pps output, so I checked and the

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Michael Tharp [] What you have is probably better than the typical RS-232 DCD line. Ultimately it's doing the same thing with mostly the same code -- triggering an interrupt when the line changes, and timestamping that in the kernel to keep the slippage between

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
Quoted message: 8<--- Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2012 09:38 To: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: NTP Issues Today [] If your machines switched dates yesterday it probably means you're NTP infrastructure is insufficiently peered and diversified. --->8

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Bill Dailey Very nice write up. I went down a similar road with my fury and Ubuntu... And then with FreeBSD on a soekris box. Have you tried refclock drivers instead of gpsd? I use gpsd on Ubuntu but decided to use refclock route instead for FreeBSD. I hav

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
Yes, Two of my PC's asked if I wanted to change the data and time to -8xxx days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. A real head scratcher until I saw the link below. I believe the time server was tick.usno.navy.mil The Time Sync software that I use is D4 - see: http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: paul swed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:34 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox any luck on the ntp server? == If it's me you are asking, yes, Paul, here's th

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Modules Indoors

2012-11-20 Thread David J Taylor
Greetings I know that the accuracy of GPS degrades indoors. However, suppose that I just want to turn a GPS module on, acquire the current time accurate to a second, and then turn it off. I can get a good deal on the U-Blox LEA-5H modules (same as used on Arduino shields I think), which have a hi

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: David Kirkby [] This is some of the communication between me and Agilent on eBay. I think it is clear Agilent wanted to use Paypal, and I did not. It was Agilent who said I should split the payment into two - one of $10,000 and the other of $7,736 [] Dave

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Hal Murray [] There is another variable to consider: cold start vs warm start. If it doesn't know the time or doesn't have a recent copy of the satellite orbit info, it has to search a lot harder to get locked up. When you get a chance, disconnect it for an hour

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
From: james machado [] all good points David. I originally had place mine close to a window to get a lock as it could not acquire any satellites in my home office otherwise. I don't have a south facing window and my office is on the first floor of a two story house. That may or may not have pla

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: David [] So the 16x manual says. As far as I know, all of the Garmin LVC, HVC, and 5Hz versions of their receivers have a timing pulse output. The GPS18 series that I have was replaced by the GPS18x series. Some of their receivers have "TIA-232-F (RS-232) Compa

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james === It looks idea, James, but ... with the 15 mm square patch antenna it seems deaf compared to similar devices with 25 mm antennas. Perhaps unde

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-09 Thread David J Taylor
oh thats my kind of basement wall wart. Place it on the wall and forget it. I have nas drives that way. They spin down and power consumption is I want to say 5-8 watts been a long time. May be lower. You access them they spin up and get your data stay up for a while and back down. A quite basement

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-09 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: paul swed most interested in you progress. What will be the total power consumption of the pi and gps rcvr? === I've not measured the total, Paul, but the Raspberry Pi is about 700 mA and the GPS receiver less than 100 mA, so the

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-09 Thread David J Taylor
Thanks to the folk here for pointing out the ublox receivers. I managed to get one off eBay for ~US $30 with antenna on a board designed for hobbyists with 3.3V serial and PPS outputs (I needed to add one wire for that) which feed directly into a Raspberry Pi. It's still to be completed, but t

Re: [time-nuts] Is it sensible to update every few seconds from NTPserver?

2012-11-07 Thread David J Taylor
Someone at my radio club uses some mode of operation where accurate time is required. He said the standard Windoze clock does not keep sufficiently accurate, so he has software which updates from an NTP server every 4 seconds or so. It's not exactly a denial of service (DOS) attack, but seems almo

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate timestamping on computers (previously: For mywhole life timezones have been weird)

2012-11-03 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Sarah White Great, thanks for the loopstats. For the included loopstats, I believe "Alta" was among the ones on which you were running windows 7 + NTP... Would you mind confirming which setting you have for your timezone? (since I'm reasonably certain I know wha

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate timestamping on computers (previously: For mywhole life timezones have been weird)

2012-11-03 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Sarah White Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:49 AM Thanks so much David... Really. Thanks. I feel alot better now. Regardless of documented issues on: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html (quote) The numerous past malfunctions of Microsoft oper

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate timestamping on computers (previously: For mywhole life timezones have been weird)

2012-11-03 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Sarah White [] Seeing as I'm in the process of installing a hardware refclock (trimble thunderbolt connected via serial port) for my NTP, it is highly problematic and potentially error-prone for microsoft's OS to touch the bios hardware clock AT ALL. I'm entertai

Re: [time-nuts] Simple NTP server based on a Raspberry Pi

2012-10-30 Thread David J Taylor
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:42 PM, David J Taylor wrote: 05:37:43 up 13:54, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.10, 0.07 Looks like you have a light duty NTP server going. the higher .26 is likely the result of running "uptime" but the 0.1 number is from NTP with close to zero c

Re: [time-nuts] Simple NTP server based on a Raspberry Pi

2012-10-29 Thread David J Taylor
I'm curious what load average numbers do you get if you type "uptime" after running NTP for some hours. I'd guess that even on the Pi the CPU is hardly used at all. That would also depend of the number of NTP clients you are supporting. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ===

[time-nuts] Simple NTP server based on a Raspberry Pi

2012-10-29 Thread David J Taylor
I've spent the last few days getting a very simple, low-power NTP server working on a Raspberry Pi. I've discovered far more about Linux than I feel I need to know, and I've written it up here: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html I'm making no claims for lowest power, smallest

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-27 Thread David J Taylor
David, [] Lovely! I'm impressed. What's the reasons for the offsets? Can't your tool handle negative values? It would be good to have min, max, max-min, avg, std.dev values without offsets to help illustrate worst-case behaviour as well as average performance and noise "energy". The more advance

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-25 Thread David J Taylor
http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm You can get NTP for windows and also their NTP Monitor. Free download. Rob Kimberley = .. with user-oriented install instructions here: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html Cheers, David -- SatSignal Softw

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-24 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: li...@lazygranch.com [] Just a FYI here, using Dave's logging program, I found large errors in NTP when the antivirus did its thing. I don't know if it was due to CPU activity interfering with NTP or the cabinet heating up when the antivirus was running. =

Re: [time-nuts] Timing performance of servers

2012-10-24 Thread David J Taylor
Fellow time-nuts, When spending time on a conference last week, I heard one interesting comment that they lost data due to bad timing on their Windows servers. [] If you need better performance than that, you should use NTP (and then download and install Meinbergs Windows-client for NTP). Then a

Re: [time-nuts] documentation for beginners

2012-10-21 Thread David J Taylor
I started a small Wiki for the Plane Plotter program, using the free pbworks site: http://planeplotter.pbworks.com The site is easy to use, and you can have multiple authors and as many readers as you like. I could start a Wiki for Time Nuts, if you like, or anyone else could start one of c

[time-nuts] ANN: UK - GPS jamming between 21 and 25 January 2013

2012-10-18 Thread David J Taylor
I have received the following notice: = NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING TO NAVIGATION SYSTEMS - Stanford Training Area, Norfolk Dates: Between 21 and 25 January 2013. Times: Times: 0900 -1600 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Land based with

Re: [time-nuts] Followup (still want a GPS-type NTP refclock)

2012-10-18 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray [] Timing mode also needs special firmware. I haven't seen any of the low cost units that come with timing mode. Does anybody have a favorite low cost timing mode unit? How about one with minimal soldering required? Hal, I see Trim

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread David J Taylor
Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. [] Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? Your comments are most welcome

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlationbetweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread David J Taylor
David, The problem is that they start in sync and over the course of a day drift that far apart despite having NTP running. We're not sure why NTP isn't correcting it along the way. Though at this point, we are looking at a firmware bug. Thanks! Bob === Bob,

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation betweentwo clients.

2012-10-04 Thread David J Taylor
The problem stems from one of the two (identical) machines drifting off by 60-70 seconds per day. So a few ms here and there are ok. [] Bob == Bob, NTP is normally limited to a +/- 500 parts per million correction - 43 seconds per day. You may be operating outsi

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation between two clients.

2012-10-04 Thread David J Taylor
David Taylor has all sorts of NTP monitoring scripts, software, and tips at his web site. Start at http://www.satsignal.eu/software/net.htm#NTPmonitor and look around. Brent Thanks for the mention, Brent. Two Windows-based programs: Remote comparison

[time-nuts] ANN: UK - GPS Jamming Notice, 1-11 Oct 2012

2012-09-28 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following: Dates: Between 1 to 11 October 2012 inclusive. Times: Intermittent for 1hr slots between 0700 BST and 2130 BST. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: A.The Little Minch and North Minch northwards from Wate

[time-nuts] ANN: UK GPS Jamming: 24th - 28th Sept and 1st - 5th Oct 2012 - Dixie's Corner

2012-09-21 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following announcement: _ Dates: Between 24th - 28th Sept and 1st - 5th Oct 2012 Times: 0800 -1600 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Multiple Land based within 5km of N52° 00.881' W003° 38.518' (SN873365 - Dix

[time-nuts] Notice of Interruption to MSF 60 kHz Time and Frequency Signal

2012-09-05 Thread David J Taylor
Notice of Interruption to MSF 60 kHz Time and Frequency Signal The MSF 60 kHz time and frequency signal broadcast from Anthorn Radio Station will be shut down over the period: 13 September 2012 from 10:00 BST until 14:00 BST The interruption to the transmission is required to allow maintenanc

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-18 Thread David J Taylor
From: Chris Albertson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:55 PM [] Power is a bigger issue. It really does cost a bit to keep some machines owered up 24x7 and NTP needs to run all the time. It takes NTP hours to stabilize and you want to wait 24 hours after to measure performance. [] Chris Alberts

Re: [time-nuts] new member with questions NTP, PRS, GPS, ocxo

2012-08-17 Thread David J Taylor
Hi, New guy here, seeking Oracular pronouncements for my time/frequency quest! [] Anyone ever had a good buying experience for this type of equipent from China? [] So what I am trying to come up with now for home/shack is: - An NTP server for our LAN [] Advice much appreciated! 73 Frank KJ4OLL =

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-08 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Mike S Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:24 PM [] ?? That's a page, which despite its title, contains a .png image, so the image is viewable in a browser. The eps is here: http://www.acousticscale.org/wiki/images/a/a0/SHAR_PGW_2009_Staves.eps Try opening the rea

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
From: Poul-Henning Kamp [] I can highly recommend SVG, I use it in Pylt, examples: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_a.svg http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_b.svg Try pressing '+' and '-' in your browser... That's probably CTRL and '+'/'-' actually... ===

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
I can highly recommend SVG, I use it in Pylt, examples: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_a.svg http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_b.svg Try pressing '+' and '-' in your browser... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 Poul-Henning, For info

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Excellent idea, Chris. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-05 Thread David J Taylor
Hal Murray wrote: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. === No, I didn't say that. Please be more careful

Re: [time-nuts] Scaling screen shots, was, Cross-Correlation Results

2012-08-05 Thread David J Taylor
I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. .. and you could also make a link from that "medium" size image to the full-sized plot.

Re: [time-nuts] Cross-Correlation Results

2012-08-04 Thread David J Taylor
http://www.febo.com/pages/cross-correlation/index.html [] (BTW, something's funky about the way your images are getting scaled... in both Safari and Firefox, they seem to want to take on the aspect ratio of the browser window itself, which I've never seen before. Is that intentional? It make

Re: [time-nuts] Heather Problem..

2012-07-23 Thread David J Taylor
For any programs which may need user-level access to their directory (e.g. for the user to edit a .INI file) I now use a \Tools\ rather than the Program Files directory, so I would use: C:\Tools\Heather\ and so forth. It also avoids the requirement for quotation marks round paths with space

[time-nuts] ANN: "Requirements for UTC and Civil Timekeeping on Earth"

2012-07-18 Thread David J Taylor
I expect this will be of some interest to time nuts Announcement of civil timekeeping meeting - from comp.risks http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/26.92.html#subj17 "Requirements for UTC and Civil Timekeeping on Earth" A Colloquium Addressing a Continuous Time Standard to be held at the Univ

Re: [time-nuts] Phase modulation detection/NIST plan

2012-07-08 Thread David J Taylor
Could not the phase modulation be made +/-90 degrees, with the appropriate number of stuff bits being added so that the average phase remains constant? Would the older receivers simply average out the phase variation over a longer period? David GM8ARV -- SatSignal Software - Quality software w

Re: [time-nuts] HP 117/10509a...

2012-07-07 Thread David J Taylor
As an observer from across the pond: - presumably, the vast majority of users would not be affected. - is there a technical solution which would be compatible with both old and new methods? Some alternative modulation scheme? - is there not a testing period, where results can be fed back as

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065a advise and purchase decision

2012-07-02 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Jim Lux Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:02 PM [] http://www.excelitas.com/Downloads/DTS_Frequency_Standards_RAFS.pdf -- are those the ones in GPS satellites? (for instance?) = Jim, The Galileo satellites h

Re: [time-nuts] Leap second coming...

2012-06-29 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray [] I don't know how Windows works, but most Linux/Unix systems keep track of time in UTC and convert to local time using the appropriate time zone. = Windows works in the same way - it's in UTC internally and converts for prese

Re: [time-nuts] NTP leap second status...

2012-06-29 Thread David J Taylor
OK, less than a day to go. At this point, properly configured NTP servers should show "leap_add_sec," "leap=01," and possibly "leapsec=20120701". To check, do an "ntpq -crv". "ntpq -crv " to check a remote host (if it allows it). == I checked al

[time-nuts] ANN: UK GPS Jamming, Sennybridge, Wales - 2012-Sep-24 .. Oct-05

2012-06-27 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following notice: __ NOTIFICATION OF A GPS JAMMING EXERCISE SENNYBRIDGE TRAINING AREA, WALES, DURING THE PERIOD 24 SEPTEMBER - 5 OCTOBER 2012 Details of Low Power Jamming. Dates: Between 24-28 September and 1-5 O

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Most of the SMT boards on the market come configured for TEP protocol which is (somewhat) compatible with the Motorola receivers. You can use a program like TRIMBLEMON to configure it for TSIP and 9800,8,N,1 serial format. Once you do that, the latest version of Lady Heather will work with it.

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, I have chked vith TAC32 SW, 9600 Baud and Motorola binary code and it is working OK. even will initialize the SMT gps board when there is a power interruption and no any protocol comes out. Also chked with the Winoncore SW and it display data but not all.. and this SW does

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, thanks a lot for the info, I have also the 1PPS output, but had the impression that it will also output TSIP or any other kind of MSG upon power-up... and you can configure the board as required of the need.it outputs according to the TrimbleStudio SW is TEP format but any

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble SMT board

2012-06-25 Thread David J Taylor
Hi, anybody having some experience with this board.. I have the following problemafter power on the board it does not output any msg only if I use the " TrimbleStudio SMT " software..on my PC.. Is there any solution to use the board without the PC/software ??? Thanks a

Re: [time-nuts] Power glitch

2012-06-21 Thread David J Taylor
david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: Does the glitch mean you had a 16-second outage or what? I'm not clear. Yes. For the previous year or so, my local power has been very good. I've seen occasional off-by-one counts in both directions but nothing more interesting than that. I haven't tracke

Re: [time-nuts] Power glitch

2012-06-20 Thread David J Taylor
I had a power glitch last night. It shows up as a step on the 60 Hz clock-drift graph. That reminded me that I had another glitch a few weeks ago. 16 seconds: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/60Hz/60Hz-2012-Jun-20-gap.png 0.1 second: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/6

Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant

2012-06-19 Thread David J Taylor
Folks may be interested in this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18497083 "A group of experts has urged funders of UK research to encourage scientists to publish their results in journals that offer free public access to findings. "A report by Dame Janet Finch argues

Re: [time-nuts] Dimension 4 and GPS time disagree, why?

2012-06-12 Thread David J Taylor
I run Dimension 4 as a time standard on my POC's, mainly for using JT65 digital radio communications. It polls tick.usno.navy.mil for the time. I have noticed since getting my ThunderBolt set up that the GPS time is about 15 seconds in advance of my PC clock, despite a correction via Dimension 4 i

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna question about RHCP/LHCP I'm sure a time-nutcan answer

2012-06-04 Thread David J Taylor
Slightly off-topic, the first time I was aware of polarisation error was during the very first trans-Atlantic TV tests. On the first night, signals were fine in France (who had a copy of the US antenna), but poor in the UK who had designed and built their own antenna). UK changed polarisation

Re: [time-nuts] Rapco 1804m

2012-06-03 Thread David J Taylor
But I was really hoping to cadge a copy of the manual. Sent offline. David GM8ARV -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -

[time-nuts] ANN: UK MSF 60 kHz interruption, 2012 June 14

2012-06-01 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following notice: __ Notice of Interruption to MSF 60 kHz Time and Frequency Signal The MSF 60 kHz time and frequency signal broadcast from Anthorn Radio Station will be shut down over the period: 14 June 2012 from 10:00 BST until 14

[time-nuts] Ofcom Update: UK GPS Jamming Notice

2012-05-30 Thread David J Taylor
I have received the following notice: __ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES RAF SPADEADAM, CUMBRIA, SEPTEMBER 2012 Dates: Between the 10th of Sept to the 14th of Sept 2012 inclusive. Times: 0700 -2000 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Land based

Re: [time-nuts] Serial port server .. any interest in a write up on using ?

2012-05-22 Thread David J Taylor
I've played with a Lantronix single port server and a Digi 16 port server with no problems for simple COM port emulation. But I wonder if they would work well with an NTP server. Has anyone tested that? Is the network delay a problem due to either amount of delay or variation in the delay?

Re: [time-nuts] Pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module12ns 1pps

2012-05-17 Thread David J Taylor
Does anyone have or know where I can find the pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module 12ns 1pps? Thankyou Ken Kubick The user guide? http://trl.trimble.com/dscgi/ds.py/Get/File-221342/ResolutionT_UG_2B_54655-05-ENG.pdf Page 24 Cheers, David -- SatSignal software - quality so

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution-T SMT caught behaving badly

2012-05-14 Thread David J Taylor
I am planning on making a simple NTP server using the Resolution SMT as the PPS input and a Rb oscillator (or any other 10MHz clock) to clock the CPU on the computer. If people are interested in a friendly interface board to the device let me know. My initial interface board design puts the PPS

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-14 Thread David J Taylor
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a well-known auction site from a weel-know seller "fluke.i", at quite a good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be. Any experience? Just to report back that I eventually got round to powering up one o

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent 40 dB Antenna

2012-05-14 Thread David J Taylor
I bought mine because of the gain, but on +5V it performs worse than a "38 dBi" antenna, quite a lot worse. I'm wonder whether it needs more volts, or whether it's simply broken. It was ex-equipment, and not in very good shape, but it was described as "used" so I'll just write off the loss, I

Re: [time-nuts] List of interesting equipment

2012-05-08 Thread David J Taylor
Hello. Would not be very useful to create a list of what interesting ideas have been implemented on what instrument (sometimes in a perfect way, sometimes maybe not), so everyone could study the service manuals, schematics, and learn? I think it will become a reference of the "state of the art"

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, USGS Early Earthquake Warning

2012-04-28 Thread David J Taylor
I enjoyed the talk, thanks to the OP for pointing it out. Of course, I would have liked more detail on the GPS! 73, David GM8ARV -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk

Re: [time-nuts] OT: The tick-tock of the optical clock ....

2012-04-27 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, very similar work was done at PTB in Germany http://www.ptb.de/en/aktuelles/archiv/presseinfos/pi2012/pitext/pi120301.html ... the charm of forbidden things... Best regards Bernd Neubig Danke, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http:/

[time-nuts] OT: The tick-tock of the optical clock ....

2012-04-27 Thread David J Taylor
The tick-tock of the optical clock NPL time scientists have made an accurate measurement of the highly forbidden octupole transition frequency in an ytterbium ion, which could be used as the basis for the next generation of optical atomic clocks - see: http://www.npl.co.uk/news/the-tick-toc

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent 40 dB Antenna

2012-04-24 Thread David J Taylor
Is everyone buying these because they have 40dB gain or because they are the only reasonably priced GPS timing antennas on eBay right now? Thomas Knox Thomas, I bought mine because of the gain, but on +5V it performs worse than a "38 dBi" antenna, quite a lot worse. I'm wonder whether it ne

[time-nuts] OT: First payload ready for next batch of Galileo satellites

2012-04-19 Thread David J Taylor
First payload ready for next batch of Galileo satellites - see: http://www.esa.int/esaNA/SEM1Z7KWZ0H_index_0.html According to the BBC, the photo here: http://www.esa.int/images/IMG_8364_scr.jpg shows two hydrogen masers (long cylinders lower right, and two rubidium clocks (silver boxes jus

Re: [time-nuts] Repost: Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-04-19 Thread David J Taylor
Never got my hands on it. The documentation doesnt look bad (at least not in the 5min i invested). I think it's cheap enough to buy a couple and try them :) Attila Kinali Thanks, Attila. That's just what I've done - they are now on the slow boat from China! I had thought that someone else he

[time-nuts] Repost: Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-04-18 Thread David J Taylor
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a well-known auction site from a well-known seller "fluke.i", at quite a good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be. Any experience? [No replies, so second post. No comments from anyone?] Thanks, Da

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-04-17 Thread David J Taylor
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a well-known auction site from a weel-know seller "fluke.i", at quite a good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be. Any experience? Thanks, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to y

Re: [time-nuts] Opinion Of Attached - Possible HPSDR GPSDO 'Engine'

2012-04-15 Thread David J Taylor
Hello Fellow Time-Nuts, I am new to the group - and was asked by someone from HPSDR/TAPR to get an opinion, good/bad, of the attached PDF which I hope doesn't exceed the allowable byte size of posts. [] Thanks and 73's, John W. San Jose, CA AJ6BC (Ham Call Sign) Did I miss the PPS output pi

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B Manual - Searchable?

2012-04-08 Thread David J Taylor
This is the kind of important and detailed information I really wish we would collect in a wiki somewhere... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 You can set up a free Wiki here: http://pbworks.com/ I've done a couple for various software Cheers, David -- SatSignal so

[time-nuts] OT: 'Navipedia': the reference for satellite navigation know-how

2012-04-05 Thread David J Taylor
'Navipedia': the reference for satellite navigation know-how. "Satellite navigation is progressing swiftly, in fact so swiftly that its printed textbooks can't keep pace - so ESA has introduced its own wiki-based information source, Navipedia, which is also the first ever ESA technical wiki op

Re: [time-nuts] NTP jitter with Linux

2012-04-04 Thread David J Taylor
I asked this on an NTP list, got some guesses, but no knowledgeable responses. [] So, running a process(es) which keep the CPU completely busy reduces the jitter. The busier, the better. Why? I'm guessing it has something to do with interrupt latency, but why does a busy CPU make it more consi

[time-nuts] ANN: UK GPS Jamming update

2012-03-28 Thread David J Taylor
I have received the following notice ___ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES SCOTLAND, NORTH AND WEST COASTS, 16-26th APRIL 2012 Dates: Between 16 to 26 April 2012 inclusive. Times: Intermittent for 1hr slots between 0800BST and 2130BST. Location o

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