ources. See my reply to Bruce below for more on what I'm trying
to accomplish.
Thanks!
John
David Forbes said the following on 04/11/2008 04:12 PM:
> At 3:23 PM -0400 4/11/08, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
>> Has anyone come up with a 5 MHz input version of TVB's PIC divider?
Has anyone come up with a 5 MHz input version of TVB's PIC divider? I
could use one...
Thanks,
John
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That also leads to a thought I've had -- if you have a pair of roughly
comparable oscillators at say 5 MHz, what about combining their outputs
in a mixer and using the 10 MHz sum output which (apart from noise added
by the mixer) ought to be sqrt-2 better than either unit alone?
John
Tom Van
The Z3801A doesn't talk native Motorola -- it has its own set of
commands based on the SCPI protocol. So I don't think you'll have any
luck using the Motorola-based programs to talk to it.
John
Bill Janssen wrote:
> I was trying to get TAC32 to talk to my Z3801A, and no luck. I have
> HP
Tom's unit had the bandpass filter installed, and as Bruce noted I've
regretted ever putting the holes on the board for it -- my saying is
that "every resonator is a thermometer"! The prototype that Tom tested
without a filter had much better tempco, and I suspect that the
filter-less production v
Steve said the following on 03/27/2008 09:35 PM:
> I'm thinking about using the TAPR TADD-1 six channel RF distribution
> amplifier to distribute the 10MHz output of my Trimble Thunderbolt to a
> few pieces of test equipment.
>
> What does the TADD-1 do to the phase noise characteristics of its
I've used my Spectracom WWVB receivers with an active LF antenna (the
AMRAD design) with very good results. At least here in Ohio, and after
the WWVB ERP upgrade, it doesn't seem to take much of a wet noodle to
get a good signal.
John
Scott Burris said the following on 03/26/2008 12:45 PM:
Here's how I added 1 pps and 10 MHz TTL outputs to my Z3801A:
http://www.febo.com/time-freq/gps/z3801a/mods/index.html
John
Peter Vince said the following on 03/26/2008 09:29 AM:
> Bruce, et al,
>
> The 1pps output of an HP Z3801A and Trimble Thunderbolt is
> only available (as far a
ey worked well
> again. Perhaps a similar problem with your RFTG.
>
>
> Scott
>
> John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
>> I'm not sure what's going on. I ran my XO/RB pair for 30 days, using
>> the "official" interconnect cable with the monitoring so
I'm not sure what's going on. I ran my XO/RB pair for 30 days, using
the "official" interconnect cable with the monitoring software
indicating no problems. I took phase data from the RB output via the
TSC and fed it into Stable32 (by the way, with a 20 second timeout, the
30 day TSC data capture
I suspect the XO module in my RFTG setup is defective, so I'd like to
find another one. It needs to be the "L106A" (not "B") version to mate
with my -RB (L105A) unit.
Anyone have one they'd like to sell? Or, failing that, one I could
borrow to test in my system?
Thanks!
John
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The Midwest VHF/UHF Society (located in Southwest Ohio) is pleased to
announce that our second MVUS Frequency Measuring Test will be held on
Saturday, April 19, 2008. There will be two transmission periods, each
on a single band: the first at 16:30 EDT (2030 UTC) on 20M, and the
second at 17:30 EDT
I've struggled for a while to figure out how to take readings at fixed
intervals from my counters and other GPIB gear. The problem is that the
time it requires to trigger and receive a measurement is non-zero and
can vary from measurement to measurement. Trying to calibrate a proper
delay is an e
Sylvain RICHARD said the following on 02/23/2008 08:59 AM:
> In my case, most of the delay comes from my ISP (free.fr). Neville, just
> do the same on your machine.
> Please note that the usual caveat (is your server time set correctly?)
> does not apply our case.
There is also some queuing del
jshank said the following on 02/18/2008 03:05 PM:
> Jamie,
>
> If you have the Spectracom 8140 you need to use the line taps. With out
> using the line taps you sinewave will not be symmetrically along 0 voltage,
> that is the sine wave will all be positive voltage.
I'm not certain about that;
James R. Gorr said the following on 02/18/2008 12:18 PM:
> I have a Spectracom 8140 frequency distribution amp.
> I see on ebay there are line taps for this device. Do
> I need the line taps? Or can I just use the 8140 as
> is? What are the line taps supposed to do?
I use the 8140T line taps w
Neville Michie said the following on 02/15/2008 05:14 PM:
> Sorry for the double mailing,
> I find it very disconcerting to not have my contributions sent back
> to me.
> I mail a response, but it seems not to have been sent, or there is a
> big delay.
> When I go to the archives I find it was
Has anyone here done any performance measurements of the Lucent RFTG-XO
unit? I am testing one now and getting extremely unimpressive results,
and wonder if anyone else has looked closely at these things.
What I'm seeing is almost flat ADEV in the low to mid 10s from 1 second
out to 40,000 second
Very cool, Tom!
John
Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/31/2008 04:55 PM:
> There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
> needs food, another runs all by itself.
>
> Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:
>
> http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/
>
Bruce Griffiths said the following on 01/30/2008 08:46 PM:
> John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
>> OK, I've finished a comparison of two Z3801As running in normal locked
>> mode, and with one unit in holdover:
>>
>> http://www.febo.com/pages/oscillators/z3801a/index
Matt Ettus said the following on 01/30/2008 08:25 PM:
> I have an HP5342A with GPIB, and am having trouble getting a reading
> out of the GPIB interface. It seems to work ok, and when I send it
> commands with talk.exe from the KE5FX GPIB tools, it responds to the
> command. But any time I query
OK, I've finished a comparison of two Z3801As running in normal locked
mode, and with one unit in holdover:
http://www.febo.com/pages/oscillators/z3801a/index.html
John
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Bruce Griffiths said the following on 01/28/2008 08:02 PM:
> Would you like a copy of all the manuals, papers etc available on this
> service?
> They use a custom multichannel time stamp instrument at both ends.
> This uses ramp interpolation of the clock to achieve resolution of
> around 25ps or
I was just looking at the NIST's frequency and time measurement
services, where for a monthly fee that provide a box that will give you
either frequency or time calibrations traceable to NIST. Both services
use common-view GPS.
Would it be feasible for the time-nuts to do their own common-view
co
Scott Newell said the following on 01/26/2008 11:25 PM:
> Is the Soekris NET4521 an acceptable substitute for the '4501,
> assuming I'd like to build a precision clock input? (As described at
> http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/)
>
I'm not sure. It uses the same processor as the 4501 (an AMD El
That's pretty impressive performance...
John
Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/26/2008 06:28 PM:
>> You might find this one interesting:
>>
>> http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lfsearch_coa/LotDescription.aspx?intObjectID=5039672
>
> Brooke,
>
> And this too (real data, different S/N)
Very nice. Thanks! (I'll report when I have my holdover experiment
finished in a few days.)
John
Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/25/2008 05:34 PM:
>> Tom's plots at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/z3801a-osc/ show 13
>> Z3801As running in unlocked mode, measured against one of his mo
Mike, you did inspire me to do the follow-on experiment. I'm now
measuring the two units again, but this time with the antenna on unit 2
(the not-as-good one) disconnected just at the start of the run. It'll
take about 4 days to gather the same data as the other plots, so be
patient. :-)
John
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>
>
>
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Sorry, I mistyped. Try this:
http://www.febo.com/pages/oscillators/z3801a/
John
Mike Feher said the following on 01/25/2008 08:41 AM:
> John -
>
> Your link did not work for me. Thanks - Mike
>
>
>
> Mike B. Feher, N4FS
> 89 Arnold Blvd.
> Howell, NJ, 07731
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I realized that there hasn't been data posted about how the Z3801A
performs when operating normally in GPS lock mode -- TVB's excellent
page focuses on the oscillators when they are free running.
So, I just did an experiment measuring two well aged Z3801As in GPS lock
against one another. No huge
Anders Time said the following on 01/25/2008 07:23 AM:
> What is the best way to generate a very stable 10.001MHz(low E-13 or
> -110dBc/1Hz) to be to do high resolution heterodyne(Allan deviation)
> measurements?
> Using DDS?
> Using PTS 500 or 250 synth and divide? Using HP 8662A and divide?
> Som
Christophe Huygens said the following on 01/24/2008 04:55 AM:
> Another unrelated topic, I seem to get emails from time-nuts only
> sporadically, and with sender time-nuts-bounces. However I
> don t have any bounce status... Does anybody else see this
> phenomenon. It is a bit irritating to have t
By the way --
Despite the discussion in the article about the voltage regulator, TVB
and I have discovered that the Wenzel ULN oscillators are very sensitive
to external factors like power supply noise. When I was testing with an
aged bench supply that apparently had some dried up electrolytics,
Geoff Blake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know this has been asked before - but I haven't found an answer
> in the archives.
>
> Has anybody a spec on an Ovenaire OSC 49-61C, ex HP 8568A.
>
> Although I haven't yet, I should be able to determine the pin-out
> from the service manual also the rudiments of t
James R. Gorr said the following on 01/19/2008 07:41 PM:
> What I am trying to accomplish is provide a reference
> for my HP 3586C. I want to try my hand at the FMT in
> February.
>
> I have a set of the Lucent RFTG-m-XO and RFTG-m-RB.
>
> My options are use the RB as stand alone or use the XO
>
Bruce Griffiths said the following on 01/19/2008 05:20 PM:
> James R. Gorr wrote:
>> I always assumed frequency references should be sine
>> waves. If that is not the case, I guess I can use
>> this for a reference for other equipment? And if a
>> square wave is just fine, could I use a clock-blo
Didier Juges wrote:
> Be careful that if you do not isolate the A/D converter analog circuits from
> the USB ground, you may create all sorts of nasty ground loops with the
> computer. When dealing with power supplies, it's always best to be isolated.
> I do not know enough about USB to know if it
Hal Murray wrote:
> Alternatively, if the supply is floating, you can put the sense resistor in
> the ground lead, but you still need a good amplifier to make the signal big
> enough for an ADC.
Sorry... my earlier response blew past the issue of whether you have
enough voltage developed for t
Hal Murray wrote:
>> (My goal is to add digital voltage and current monitoring to some
>> older bench power supplies.)
>
> Measuring voltage is simple. If the input range is too big, you need a few
> resistors. If it's small, you lose a few bits from the top of the A/D. Add
> an op-amp if yo
John Miles wrote:
> Occam, the guy with the Razor.
>
> The one who keeps telling me not to overcomplicate things. :-P
Our little local group of geeks here in Dayton has, as one of its
mottos, "No Problem Is So Large Or Complicated That It Can't Be
Over-engineered."
John
Tom Van Baak wrote:
> I like these:
>
> http://www.labjack.com/labjack_u3.php
> http://www.labjack.com/labjack_u12.php
>
> See also:
> http://www.labjack.com/
> http://www.labjack.com/compare.php
Thanks, Tom! Their OEM version of the U3 looks like it'll do the trick,
and at $79 it's not too p
I'm looking for a couple of inexpensive sensors with a couple of
channels of 10 or 12 bit ADC and ideally a USB interface (emulating a
serial device).
I've done a bit of googling and everything I've found has been either
fairly pricey (well over $100 each) or cheap, but with only 8 bits
resolution
Hi Patrick --
Off the top of my head, I can't help with the syntax, but I wanted to
mention that sometimes under Linux a USB device will assume different
device names depending on how many times (and how recently) it's been
plugged and unplugged. So, it's possible the Prologix may answer on
t
I'm experimenting with some low noise regulators, and want to do some
meaningful measurements to compare them (and hopefully compare to
published specs).
I have an HP 3561A FFT analyzer, which can probably be beaten these days
by a sound card, but has the advantage of absolute calibration and GPIB
Michael Di Domenico wrote:
> I've used NTP for years, but i was under the impression that it is not
> able to synchonize the clocks below 1 or 2 seconds. Can you point me
> towards a specific article that speaks about the configuration
> parameters to get ntp sync'd that low?
Hi Michael --
PC h
Mike Feher said the following on 01/01/2008 09:47 AM:
> Yes, that is what I figured regarding the 12V. For me, it has more or less
> been a rule of thumb, but, I think at 10 MHz the best you could do, due to Q
> and transistor noise and gain, was about - 155 dBc/Hz at about 100 Hz from
> the carrie
I have two 5061As that are (for the moment at least) working. Both have
replacement FTS tubes, and both have the retrofitted 10811A OCXO. One
is a fairly late chassis, while the other is much older. One difference
is that the long time constant switch on the older one is a slide switch
in the bo
Peter Sabersky said the following on 12/14/2007 03:39 PM:
> Pls remove me from this list
>
Just a reminder because I've seen a few of these lately -- there's a
link at the bottom of every message that will take you to the time-nuts
info page. From there you can manage your subscription, includin
Keith E. Brandt, M.D. wrote:
> John,
> That's a good start towards answering my question. Given my set-up of
> GPS referenced NTP server, how would I integrate a frequency
> reference into the system?
You'd replace the crystal oscillator on the motherboard with a more
stable reference. The TAP
Keith E. Brandt, M.D. wrote:
>As a relative newbie to the who time-nut scene, I'm still working on
>the big picture of how all the hardware fits together. I've
>successfully put together a FreeBSD box with a Garmin 18 LVC as an NTP
>server and am getting consistent microsecond accur
Hal Murray said the following on 12/11/2007 05:57 PM:
>> As great as GPSDO are, the problem with using them in a portable
>> environment is the time it takes to do a survey and then get to final
>> lock; mountain-toppers may not be in one place long enough.
>
> What if you use a navigation GPS un
Hal Murray wrote:
> I'm picturing an open hill top at night with clear skies so there would be
> lots of radiation cooling. Of course, with an open hill top, GPS recption
> would be easy.
As great as GPSDO are, the problem with using them in a portable
environment is the time it takes to do a
That's one advantage of using PDF in that kind of situation. The "slide
show" presentation isn't quite as nice as with PowerPoint or OO, but
it's much more independent of the environment on the machine.
And, of course, OO has a very nice "Export to PDF" option available for
all its modules (write
Brian Styles said the following on 12/07/2007 07:15 PM:
> There's quite a bit of guff on the "Oscilloquartz" website - especially
> if you find your way to the OXCO 8607-B datasheet (pdf).
[ . . . ]
> They've made over 10,000 of them. Anyone know what they're charging...?
Very rough numbers, b
Michael Baker wrote:
> I have found out how a BVA resonator is fabricated, but
> I have not discovered what the acronym "BVA" stands for.
>
> I suspect that the "B" in "BVA" may refer to Raymond Besson
> the discoverer of the BVA quartz resonator, but I
> have not been able to confirm that.
>
>
For those of you with Austron 2100F or 2100T receivers, I finally got
around to putting up very terse instructions for acquiring lock and (for
the 2100T) syncing to UTC, as well as decoding the keypad and error
status messages.
http://www.febo.com/time-freq/loran/austron-2100F-setup.html
http://ww
John Ackermann N8UR said the following on 12/01/2007 04:07 PM:
> I use the 100 second average for two reasons: first, it results in a
> somewhat better resolution than the 2ns native of the HP-5334A TIC,
> which may or may not be meaningful in the ADEV calculation given the PPS
> no
Bruce Griffiths said the following on 12/01/2007 03:36 PM:
>>> It takes a 100 second average of each PPS source
>>> sequentially; I end up with six log files, each with a tau of
>>> 600 seconds: CS1-GPS, CS2-GPS, RB1-GPS, CS1-CS2, CS1-RB1, and CS2-RB1.
> This technique creates the issue of how
Didier Juges said the following on 12/01/2007 12:56 AM:
> Maybe quasi-simultaneously is adequate, using a switch to sample the 3 pairs
> in rotation.
>
> The HP59307A can be used for that under GPIB control.
If anybody's interested, I have a perl script (running under Linux,
using the linux-gpib
Hi Mike --
Most modern Rbs, and particularly the small telecom ones (which is what
most of the <$500 ones are) have a quite long lamp life; I haven't heard
of any of them failing because of lamp burnout.
However, note that those Rbs tend to have only modest short term
stability and phase noise.
David Forbes wrote:
> At 10:42 AM -0500 11/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> IEEE Spectrum, the magazine of the Institute of Electrical and Electronic
>> Engineers, is issuing a D-I-Y challenge that may be of interest to the
>> members of this group. The goal is to build the most accurate possible
Jeff Mock said the following on 11/29/2007 01:32 AM:
> There seem to be a bunch of HP8924C's up on ebay for about $1500. It's
> intended function is for CDMA testing, but it seems to be a pretty
> general RF communications tester. Even if you don't care about the CDMA
> stuff, it's a 1GHz spect
Daun --
Guess who you see frequently who has a Prologix you might able to borrow...
John
Daun Yeagley said the following on 11/28/2007 08:45 PM:
> Well, I have a 3478A, but unfortunately not a Prologix. If I get my hands on
> one
> I could add a data point.
> Personally, I think there is a
Thanks to all who replied! I now have several copies of the manual :-)
John
Henk ten Pierick said the following on 11/21/2007 12:56 PM:
> Hi Jon,
>
> I have send what I have off-list.
>
> Henk
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 0:26, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
>
>>
The UPS man left my nifty new DTS-2070C analyzer today. The unit looks
like it's new in box, but it's been robbed of the manual (and SMA shorts
and extenders that are supposed to accompany it).
I know several folks here have one of these guys. Anyone have a scanned
manual?
Thanks,
John
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It appears (fingers crossed, knock on wood) that the spurious headers at
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update I applied yesterday.
I never did figure out which of the five programs in the febo.com mail
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Dr. David Kirkby said the following on 10/15/2007 05:02 PM:
> The reason Google does not index it is probably has something to do with
> the following line I see in the HTML:
>
>
Following up an ancient message, but your sysadmin is getting back in
the swing of things after six plus weeks
John Miles said the following on 11/17/2007 09:06 PM:
> Well, I bought the other Datum 9390 that was for sale at the time Mike
> posted this message (eBay 260177272556), and it's certainly an impressive
> box of stuff for $150. There is an Efratom Rb module, a couple of power
> supplies, and a bun
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Didier Juges said the following on 11/12/2007 11:02 PM:
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> I get this (see picture) with the spectrum analyzer and my wire antenna.
> That looks a lot c
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Didier Juges said the following on 11/12/2007 10:48 PM:
> I have tried to listen with my HP 3586 and my 80 meter antenna (which is
> actually about 20m long and 50 feet up at one end, 30 feet up at the other
> end), but I have
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You're probably pretty close to the Jupiter, Florida station. A piece
of wire will probably do the trick.
John
Didier Juges said the following on 11/12/2007 07:11 PM:
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For what it's worth, I've never felt that the frequency error display on
the 2100 series was all that reliable, even when you use the longest
averaging time. When I've used LORAN for frequency measurement, I hook
an A/D on the
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> Aft
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 11/10/2007 06:25 PM:
> I lost access to my Teknet manual download account a while back, the
> explanation being that AOL had blocked them from sending to any AOL user.
> When they comp
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>From Your Humble SysAdmin:
I just received a bad-boy message from AOL relating to the "Mini
Magnetic Sensor" email that was posted to the list this afternoon.
These messages usually result from an AOL subscriber hitting the "
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The results of the first MVUS Frequency Measuring Test are now available
at http://www.febo.com/pages/mvus-fmt/index.html (click on "October 2007
Results"). There are also pages at that URL describing how we generated
and meas
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Just wanted to let folks know that we were actually planning to publish
results for the MVUS Frequency Measuring Test that was held on Oct. 13/14.
We received 19 entries, some with as many as 15 (out of 18 possible)
readings, a
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Hal Murray said the following on 10/24/2007 03:47 AM:
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> I'm looking for a digital scope. Is there some obvious model(s) that I
> should keep an ey
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I'd be interested in one, George.
John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 10/22/2007 05:39 PM:
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> Hello everyone,
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> I was hacking away at
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Thanks for pointing that out, David. I'll see if I can get Mailman to
change that robot tag (it's automagically created).
John
Dr. David Kirkby said the following on 10/15/2007 05:02 PM:
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Last reminder -- the first Midwest VHF/UHF Society Frequency Measuring
Test will be held tomorrow, Oct. 13 (EDT). Here are the key details:
1. Two runs: 1430 EDT (1830 UTC Saturday) and 2130 EDT (0130 UTC Sunday).
2. Nomin
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Jeffrey Pawlan said the following on 10/07/2007 12:03 PM:
> All larger TV stations use Cs standards. What you don't know is that the FCC
> assigns SLIGHTLY different scan frequencies to each station on the same
> channel in a c
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 10/10/2007 02:39 PM:
> BTW: I wonder how much effect thermistor and resistor-bridge aging as well
> as opamp offset drift has on the long term aging of typical OCXO's since it
> will
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 10/10/2007 02:17 PM:
> In a message dated 10/10/2007 11:13:21 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
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>
>> We first built a small proportional heater circuit that we could shove
>> in next to the crystal, and that worked OK. We finally fou
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This is getting off topic (because it's far to practical!) but hanging
heaters on crystals is a time-honored activity for hams. Many of the
surplus FM rigs for VHF and UHF that we obtained from the likes of
Motorola, GE, RCA, e
Geraldo Lino de Campos said the following on 10/09/2007 05:42 PM:
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> New to the list, I got a used LPRO 101 and developed a GPS-based
> counter to check accuracy of calibration. I found it is almost on the
> spot, freq=9.99
Me me me!!!
John
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> Hello guys,
>
> we are ready to start shipping the Fury units out to you. We have sent
> PayPal payment information to the following members, please let me know if I
*** Note important updates in this information ***
The Midwest VHF/UHF Society (located in Southwest Ohio) is pleased to
announce that the first annual MVUS Frequency Measuring Test will be
held on Saturday, October 13, 2007. There will be two transmission
periods: the first at 14:30 EDT (1830 UT
I was looking at the wrong plot when I mentioned the noise floor of my
5370B in frequency counter mode; blame my temporary mono-vision after
having had some eye surgery!
If you look at http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/5370B/index.html
*properly*, you'll see that the actual noise floor is abo
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Didier Juges said the following on 09/24/2007 09:40 PM:
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> I guess it depends on signal to noise ratio. With reciprocal counters, you
> only need one pe
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Tom Van Baak said the following on 09/24/2007 08:57 PM:
> I would think this is especially true for non-local frequencies,
> such as one received over the air. I'll leave it to you FMT
> guys to comment on the magnitude of degr
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The Midwest VHF/UHF Society (located in Southwest Ohio) is pleased to
announce that the first annual MVUS Frequency Measuring Test will be
held on Saturday, October 13, 2007. There will be two transmission
periods: the first at
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Scott Mace said the following on 09/21/2007 06:14 PM:
> Has anyone measured the delay through a symmetricom 090-58537-01 4-port
> splitter?
> The spec sheet says ~40ns, which seems kind of high.
Last spring we measured a two-
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Richard (Rick) Karlquist said the following on 08/28/2007 12:27 AM:
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> E1938A phase noise should be similar to 10811,
> possibly even a little better fa
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Jared Morrisen wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I am having a debate with our CIO. He wrote in a memo about timing:
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> *Local hardware is to be considered Stratum
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Sorry for the intrusion; testing some mail system upgrades that I'm
hoping might solve the spurious-header problem.
John
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John Ackermann N8UR said the following on 07/28/2007 09:58 AM:
> I don't know that I've ever seen any crimp connectors that don't have a
> sleeve between the coax and the dielectric. Maybe I've just been l
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Didier Juges said the following on 07/28/2007 09:39 AM:
> One problem with crimping coax cables is that crimping the braid is usually
> done against the plastic (term used generically) insulation between the
> center conductor and th
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I'm surprised that no one has come forth with the apposite quote from
the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime,
doubly so."
John
Didier Juges said the following on 07/28/2007 09:29 AM:
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