Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-09 Thread ew via time-nuts
Having followed the conversation and having looked at the p[possibility using a FRK with laser diode, it is low on our list because of all the ongoing projects but please if you want to spend time and money use any thing but a FE5680. I was one of the first using it and noticed and posted a 4 Hz

[time-nuts] Ann other Microwave Journal Paper

2018-05-31 Thread ew via time-nuts
Ann other Microwave Journal Paper an invited paper but by Morion Inc. Precise Frequency Sources Meeting the 5G Holdover Time Interval Error Requirement Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.

Re: [time-nuts] NEO-M8N vs. NEO-M8T

2018-05-21 Thread ew via time-nuts
Richard McCorkle  on his own GPSDO design had a separate PIC keep track of the saw tooth information from a M12 ad and subtract during the filter time constant and transferd the sum to the filter for processing.  Bert Kehren   In a message dated 5/21/2018 2:55:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, ch...@

Re: [time-nuts] ✘NEO-M8N vs. NEO-M8T

2018-05-21 Thread ew via time-nuts
Should say 1.7 nsec we also plan to use the GCLK output for what I call a GPS PLL we have done it successfully with low cost u-blox with  E-11 frequency results. Bert Kehren   In a message dated 5/21/2018 7:49:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, time-nuts@febo.com writes:     Our answer was real time

Re: [time-nuts] Sub 5e-13 ADEV GPSDO

2018-05-15 Thread ew via time-nuts
Thank you Ole Juerg and I spend most our time on frequency,control and measuring. We also see 2 E-12 frequency using GPS and blame the Ionosphere. Which brings up the Question does the way you use the OEMV-3 in your experiment use L1 L2 compensation and where can I buy one? Looked for hours last

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread ew via time-nuts
contact me off list I have a couple   Bert Kehren   In a message dated 5/5/2018 9:17:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, time-nuts@febo.com writes:     I am trying to use the 60 KHz for synchronization of a Rb receiver. The local NJ noise and the signal in dBuV are about the same with an active antenn

[time-nuts] Low noise Oscillator

2018-04-25 Thread ew via time-nuts
In the April Microwave Journal is an extensive article on a "Ultra-Low Phase Noise Oscillators with Attosecond Jitter"and measuring techniques. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-

Re: [time-nuts] Nice Dual mixer and 2 channel counter for DMTD work

2018-04-19 Thread ew via time-nuts
Attached is a picture of the D/M as we use it. Corby has added things making it difficult to see. Only thing missing is Offset OCXO. We have worked off list with some members and have run out of boards. Juerg is working with a German time nut on fine tuning Riley, just very minor. Boards will be

Re: [time-nuts] Nice Dual mixer and 2 channel counter for DMTD work

2018-04-19 Thread ew via time-nuts
Attached is a picture of the D/M as we use it. Corby has added things making it difficult to see. Only thing missing is Offset OCXO. We have worked off list with some members and have run out of boards. Juerg is working with a German time nut on fine tuning Riley, just very minor. Boards will be

Re: [time-nuts] Environmental sensor recommendations

2018-04-06 Thread ew via time-nuts
How did you measure temperature sensitivity Bert Kehren   In a message dated 4/6/2018 3:40:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, hol...@hotmail.com writes:   I replaced the OCXO on one of my Thunderbolts with an Oscilloquartz 8663 and the temperature sensitivity went down by about 2/3, so I always assum

Re: [time-nuts] -- Re: Environmental sensor recommendations

2018-04-06 Thread ew via time-nuts
YSI has been my choice for decades. Had to modify because the batteries are no longer available. How ever I like to point to a GTH 175/MO very handy 0.1 C resolution good specs have had it for many years and I Googled it still available, bought it at Conrad but that was 15 years ago. My partner

Re: [time-nuts] Environmental sensor recommendations

2018-04-05 Thread ew via time-nuts
I respectfully disagree. The OCXO is not the temperature problem with the Tbolt. It is the DAC. Again this is not a product developed for time nuts it did an excellent job for its intended purpose. Over a year we worked on the Tbolt using HP 10811, OSA 8600, FRK Rb, M100 Rb with excellent Warren

Re: [time-nuts] TS2100: List of root commands?

2018-04-05 Thread ew via time-nuts
No control voltage change of an OCXO in a year  is amazing. What is the OCXO Bert Kehren   In a message dated 4/5/2018 10:52:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, gerh...@wittreich.org writes:   Bruce, The link Azelio Boriani shared is the source I used when doing the same project. Please, post your res

[time-nuts] Tracor 527 CRT

2018-04-04 Thread ew via time-nuts
Lat year some one from the UK asked me about a 1 inch CRT for the Tracor 527. I did respond that I thought I had one but out in one of the 45 Aple crates in the Garage. After 3 years from my move from Miami today I started serious downsizing and found a Telefunken DGP-12A do not know if it will

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap jitter measurements

2018-04-03 Thread ew via time-nuts
Gary There is a Blast from the past the PIC TIC. Richard McCorkle did it and in its time was widely popular. He helped me on many projects so I included his boards with my board orders. Not being a time nut I never took a closer look at his board. Having recently revisited the subject for simple

Re: [time-nuts] GPS ANTENNA

2018-04-02 Thread ew via time-nuts
Question Using L/H  what is too much signal  Bert Kehren   In a message dated 4/1/2018 10:54:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk writes:   just use a bias tee to feed in the antenna volts :) -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On

Re: [time-nuts] New GNSS chipsets

2018-04-02 Thread ew via time-nuts
I think Bob is right and knows what he is talking about.  Example Furuno GT-87, how many years have I known about it and tried to buy some, just recently became available. Bert Kehren   In a message dated 4/1/2018 10:52:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, jg...@zianet.com writes:   Bob, If it was a

Re: [time-nuts] What does determine the short term stability of an Rb vapor cell standard?

2018-03-26 Thread ew via time-nuts
In the PRS 10 The OCXO is controlled by a DAC not directly by the optical package. With Corby's work on the Super where he also used in one case a good and an other case  not so good 10811 it is the S/N  at the detector output in a 0.05 sec loop that makes the difference. Results where the same.

Re: [time-nuts] Qualcomm 1152 Synthesizer Boards

2018-03-20 Thread ew via time-nuts
Richard is that the BCDl   DDS sounds familiar, if so there  are Cs out there that need them and can not be found. Bert   In a message dated 3/20/2018 2:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, w1...@outlook.com writes:   In rooting through my stash, I found a couple of these boards that I picked up s

Re: [time-nuts] Assorted replies, and request for info

2018-02-27 Thread ew via time-nuts
Allow me to make some follow on comments on John’s post. Much of the equipment we use was never intended for what we use it for and developed at a time that certain parameters where not tested, and equipment now available for our efforts is getting rare. We are working on 1 E-13 frequency at one

Re: [time-nuts] FRK

2018-02-27 Thread ew via time-nuts
Thank you Tom,  for the record the pictures where taken by Juerg Koegel my partner in crime Bert Kehren   In a message dated 2/26/2018 11:05:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, t...@leapsecond.com writes:   Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here: http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm /tvb -

[time-nuts] FRK

2018-02-25 Thread ew via time-nuts
attached a picture of the open FRK Bert Kehren___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A super

2018-02-24 Thread ew via time-nuts
FRK is possible candidate we are looking at it add filter, reduce time constant Corby did but forgot to reduce filter  time constant. 5065A is 0.05 seconds.  We have to many projects low on the list Juerg is right now doing the new A9 for Corby If any body wants to seriously get involved contact

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A super

2018-02-22 Thread ew via time-nuts
/2018 8:55:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, att...@kinali.ch writes:   On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:00:54 -0500 ew via time-nuts wrote: > Now a step by step work over, including HP mods for later  units like > replacing the 74196’s in the synthesizer module with 74LS196. May have been > end of li

[time-nuts] HP 5065A super

2018-02-22 Thread ew via time-nuts
In December I lucked out buying a HP5065A for a very reasonable price, as is not tested. Turns out it was not working and I was not able to fix it. Corby to the rescue. Corby and I have shared many projects over the past, go back over 15 years, as a matter of fact he introduced me to time-nuts.

Re: [time-nuts] Furuno GT-8031 breakout board

2018-02-15 Thread ew via time-nuts
Talking about Furuno has any one looked at the GT-87. I have known about it for years but found no way to buy some now DigiKey has them for $ 100, Buerklin in Germany for half that price. Saw tooth is +- 1.7 nsec we are not going to bother with correction. We are in the process to lay out a boar

Re: [time-nuts] Suggestion for a timing GPS receiver (Trimble / Ublox / other?)

2018-01-22 Thread ew via time-nuts
Paride The LEA-5T differs from other devices only that it has saw tooth information that can be used for correction or in a loop' I did a board and have one with variable delay using the 5T. Looking at the picture I do not even see an output for that information. Any later standard $10 module wi

[time-nuts] SI5328

2018-01-22 Thread ew via time-nuts
In my opinion the SI 5328 is worth looking at for time nut application, like offset frequency. My problem is solder ability. Does any one know a source for an evaluation board or as an alternative a source that would do a small volume assembly? Bert Kehren __

[time-nuts] Tbolt 1pps

2018-01-17 Thread ew via time-nuts
Has any one done a 24 hour plot of the Tbolt 1pps. Bert Kehren Palm City F. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Recently acquired 53132A

2017-12-20 Thread ew via time-nuts
Thank you Tom. Very informative, sadly no simple answer to overcome the shortcoming. After move, downsizing and age I imposed on my self a buy stop that I keep braking. I did buy this year two 53132A's mainly because of the RS232 interface. Before I had excellent results with a combination Trac

Re: [time-nuts] Simple open source microcontroller solution to tune DDS needed

2017-12-14 Thread ew via time-nuts
Rick Please contact me off list we did a board for Corby to be used with the HP Rb using a PIC but I would have to better understand your needs to figure out what board to use. Bert Kehren   In a message dated 12/13/2017 4:06:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, artgod...@gmail.com writes:   It's a bi