Re: [time-nuts] Racal 1992 drift after standby

2009-08-27 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Thanks, Harry, I already had got this info from this list, but had trouble locating the jumper. The manuals seemed ambiguous, and I didn't find anyone who actually made the change. May you help? Anyway, now my programs are MATE/CIIL ... Antonio I8IOV > You can switch the mode to standard langu

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 1992 drift after standby

2009-08-27 Thread iov...@inwind.it
In my experience limited to two units, the 04E works very well, and I've been prudent claiming an aging of one part in 10E10 per day. I suggest to check your unit. My reference was Rb (LPRO). They are both 02M. The 02M has a tag on the left side looking from the front. If the tag was lost, there

Re: [time-nuts] Couple of questions for Racal 1992 owners

2009-08-27 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I have two 1992, and actually one has to terminate the output to see the real waveform. They have both the 04E option, that I believe is a nice one. In long term measurements, I've found that mine have an aging rate in the range of 1x10E-10 per day, or better (compared to Rb). The crystal is cut

Re: [time-nuts] How do time-nuts measure phase noise?

2009-08-17 Thread iov...@inwind.it
In order to simplify the project, and given that I wouldn't need to distinguish what source the noise comes from, I could use only S1 and X sources. And here is my last question. If I don't lock the sources to one another (say two HP 10811), what is the unconvenience? An additional signal in t

Re: [time-nuts] How do you communicate with your Racal Dana 1992?

2009-08-17 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I use since several years a NI rs-232 to GPIB converter (RS-232CT), and old laptops running DOS and my own QBasic programs. I'm happy with this, as usually I read also temperature and atmospheric pressure along with frequency/period, and store all the data in a single file. If your 1992 is a 02M

Re: [time-nuts] How do time-nuts measure phase noise?

2009-08-17 Thread iov...@inwind.it
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:18:58 +1200 Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Steve Rooke wrote: > > 2009/8/17 Bruce Griffiths : > > > >> iov...@inwind.it wrote: > >> > >>> Please, how do time-nuts measure phase noise? What may be a minimal setup

[time-nuts] How do time-nuts measure phase noise?

2009-08-16 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Please, how do time-nuts measure phase noise? What may be a minimal setup whit recording capability? Thanks, Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts an

Re: [time-nuts] Ten minutes past ten

2009-08-04 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Surrounded by a "ledge (?)", or maybe better said, surrounded by a cornice (or frame). Sorry for my limited English. Bye, Antonio I8IOV > Sorry, don't get "ledged". What do you mean? > > Jim > > 2009/8/4 iov...@inwind.it > > > The

Re: [time-nuts] Ten minutes past ten

2009-08-03 Thread iov...@inwind.it
The reason that was known to me is that at 10:10 the manufacturer's logo looks like "ledged". Antonio I8IOV > Excuse me for asking a non-hardware question, but I'd like to know > the origins of the time 10:10 being shown on clocks and watches in > advertisements for same. > > The one that tipped

Re: [time-nuts] Multiple Voltage monitoring

2009-07-31 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I would add to this scenario the solution I've used for many years, the AD12 card shown at about mid page at: http://www.micromed.it/Elettronica/schede.html It is a 12 bit + sign, 8 single ended or 4 differential channels, AD converter with RS232 interface. Resolution is 1 mV, conversion time 8

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO-101 Status

2009-07-28 Thread iov...@inwind.it
On July 25, 2009 don.key at ntlworld.com wrote >The second one would not lock within 15 minutes, so I returned it (to China) >for a replacement. As I didn\'t have a heatsink, I didn\'t want to leave it >any longer. Besides, if it doesn\'t lock within 5 minutes, then I assume it >is faulty. Inst

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

2009-07-14 Thread iov...@inwind.it
on July 10 2009 tvb wrote: > Hi Said & Tom, > > The below url links some "low-g"-osc papers. > >http://www.freqelec.com/tech_lit.html > > Antonio, you may want to read them - for additional insights into your eclipse project. /tvb Tanks Tom and all for the discussion a

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

2009-07-09 Thread iov...@inwind.it
You are right, Tom, there are two mixed topics. On the on-topic subject, instead of making tests to measure the frequency dependence on orientation, It would be much more interesting looking at possible ADEV dependences on orientation, particularily for small tau (the bottom of the curve). I can

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

2009-07-09 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I have another reading key. When the manufacturer publishes the specs of its crystals, it alrady took into account all of the possible known variables, some of them very tiny such as dependences on orientation (which do exist), so freeing the assembler (and the end-user) from caring of. (Anyway,

Re: [time-nuts] Glitches in data

2009-07-09 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I had the same problem with a Racal 1992 and a NI GPIB to RS232. Syncerely I'm now pleased that the problem was not only of mine :-). In my case sometimes the glitches took two adjacent readings (even if with different values), but I was sampling every 10 seconds, so my probality to get ones was

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

2009-07-08 Thread iov...@inwind.it
difference for the > -60111. > > - Chad. > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:27 AM, iov...@inwind.it wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > does anybody out there know the orientation of the crystal faces relative > > to the outer case in a 10811-6011

[time-nuts] LPRO-locked 10811?

2009-07-08 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Has anybody locked to an LPRO a 10811-60111 in place of the LPRO internal crystal? Any advices? Thanks, Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and fo

[time-nuts] 10811 crystal orientation

2009-07-08 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Dear all, does anybody out there know the orientation of the crystal faces relative to the outer case in a 10811-60111? (The sense of the question is that we are considering building a 3-axis apparatus for gravity-related tests. Note, based on our tentative modelization, crystals are not reque

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting jump in my Z3805

2009-07-08 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Hi Steve, for the meaning of jump we are accepting here I would have seen a more ripid rising slope, butwho knows? I would ask you a favour. I would be very pleased to see your Z3805 traces for the week centered approx on July 22 02:30 UT. There will be a total solar eclipse on the Pacific

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread iov...@inwind.it
James Lux wrote: > Ah.. That's easy.. Pretty much every satellite in orbit derives its transmit > frequency from a crystal oscillator, either a TCXO or a OCXO. So all you > have to do is pick a LEO satellite that is easy to receive and measure the > transmitted frequency, and that is at a frequen

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Magnus Danielson wrote: > Do read the article I referred to on aging. I think that any > gravitational issues during the eclipse event is far less than the > effect of sudden cooling, loss of sunlight. Does the ionspheric TEC > change drastically? You need a good L1/L2 GPS receiver for that. >

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Thanks all. Let's explain why I would like to look at orbiting crystals. In brief, along with some friends of mine, I am carrying some experimental work in the field of gravitational anomalies, and tests with vibrating matter are part of this work. This field of research has a background also in

[time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-26 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Time-nuts, this post wouldn't be merely speculative, I have an actual interest in knowing if what I'm going to ask is possible. As it has already been discussed here, crystals may jump in frequency. If I recall, about 20% of good quality crystals are prone to jumping, but a crystal that used to

Re: [time-nuts] Another LPRO-101 Rb Osc question...

2009-01-01 Thread iov...@inwind.it
These pictures could suggest an idea: http://fotoalbum.alice.it/iovane/LPRO Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Colima GPSDO stopped working?

2009-01-01 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Perfect since I discovered it two months back, the online plot is no longer updated since this morning. http://resco.ucol.mx/Fury/gpsstat.htm Does anybody know what's happening? Thanks, Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] PC run FFT

2008-12-20 Thread iov...@inwind.it
I've been using the Xcel built in FFT, and even under WinXP it should be intentionally installed. The path for doing so is (translating from Italian): tools>additional components>analysis tools then follow the instructions. The function will be available as "data analysis", I don't remember if und

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