Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-29 Thread Mike Millen
Paul Flinders wrote: On 29/07/12 07:21, Mike Millen wrote: Fluxclene is also excellent for removing glue residue left by labels, etc. Yes, I saw your previous message and certainly plan to try it (might try some lighter fluid first). In fact was going to order it from link you posted until I

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Flinders
On 29/07/12 07:21, Mike Millen wrote: Fluxclene is also excellent for removing glue residue left by labels, etc. Yes, I saw your previous message and certainly plan to try it (might try some lighter fluid first). In fact was going to order it from link you posted until I hit the £12 postage

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Mike Millen
Paul Flinders wrote: On 28/07/2012 22:38, John Miles wrote: I can't guarantee anything, but I'd be surprised if Fluxclene didn't do the trick: http://www.electrolube.com/docs/cleaningmain.asp?id=13 Thanks I'll give it a try. Also try some naptha (sold as lighter fluid, or as a product called

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Flinders
On 28/07/2012 22:38, John Miles wrote: I can't guarantee anything, but I'd be surprised if Fluxclene didn't do the trick: http://www.electrolube.com/docs/cleaningmain.asp?id=13 Thanks I'll give it a try. Also try some naptha (sold as lighter fluid, or as a product called "Goof-Off.") goof-of

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread John Miles
> > I can't guarantee anything, but I'd be surprised if Fluxclene didn't > > do the trick: > > > > http://www.electrolube.com/docs/cleaningmain.asp?id=13 > > > Thanks I'll give it a try. Also try some naptha (sold as lighter fluid, or as a product called "Goof-Off.") -- john, KE5FX Miles Design L

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Flinders
On 28/07/12 21:13, Mike Millen wrote: Paul Flinders wrote: On 27/07/12 03:17, Tom Miller wrote: I agree with Ron. Clean the board up real good then do an inspection. Talking of which does anyone have any suggestions as to with what? I've tried IPA, ethanol, acetone and even some of the tiny a

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Mike Millen
Paul Flinders wrote: On 27/07/12 03:17, Tom Miller wrote: I agree with Ron. Clean the board up real good then do an inspection. Talking of which does anyone have any suggestions as to with what? I've tried IPA, ethanol, acetone and even some of the tiny amount of 1,1,1 trichloroethane I have l

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Paul Flinders
On 27/07/12 03:17, Tom Miller wrote: I agree with Ron. Clean the board up real good then do an inspection. Talking of which does anyone have any suggestions as to with what? I've tried IPA, ethanol, acetone and even some of the tiny amount of 1,1,1 trichloroethane I have left (yes, I know it'

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-28 Thread Didier Juges
nd frequency measurement >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans > >On 26/07/12 20:49, Tom Miller wrote: >> Pick up a few sticks of ChipQuik and mix it in with a good iron. >Then, > >> you may do just what you say. It should melt below abou

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-27 Thread Paul Flinders
Ron Ward sayeth: Hi: I have been looking at the poor quality solder joints on the oscillator. If you have a steady hand and a small tipped soldering with silver baring (about 2% silver) solder, I would re-solder the connections. Many of them do not look properly "wetted" and cold. Some of the hea

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-27 Thread Paul Flinders
On 27/07/12 03:17, Tom Miller wrote: I agree with Ron. Clean the board up real good then do an inspection. With a microscope if you can get your hands on one. Look for cracked SMT parts. The high heat from the oven could very well stress the parts causing a failure. Flux the board up and hit al

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Miller
me and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans On 26/07/12 20:49, Tom Miller wrote: Pick up a few sticks of ChipQuik and mix it in with a good iron. Then, you may do just what you say. It should melt below about 95°C. A good hot air heat gun would

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Ron Ward
[time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans On 26/07/12 20:49, Tom Miller wrote: > Pick up a few sticks of ChipQuik and mix it in with a good iron. Then, > you may do just what you say. It should melt below about 95°C. > A good hot air heat gun would most likely do the trick. Maybe use

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread paul swed
OK I get to add 10 cents here. Yes indeed various foam stuff goes to heck after many years and can indeed become this strange goo-ie stuff. Or it gets all flakey. Well the good news is stuff seems to work and that can be frustrating. So I would suggest the very deep dive and look at all of the sold

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Flinders
On 26/07/12 20:49, Tom Miller wrote: Pick up a few sticks of ChipQuik and mix it in with a good iron. Then, you may do just what you say. It should melt below about 95°C. A good hot air heat gun would most likely do the trick. Maybe use some solder wick first to lower the amount of tin/lead sold

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Miller
t: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans On 26/07/12 17:49, Tom Miller wrote: Hi Bob, Did you look at his pictures of the oscillator? I think the base will need to be secured and the top pulled off. This is different from most of the OCX

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Flinders
On 26/07/12 17:49, Tom Miller wrote: Hi Bob, Did you look at his pictures of the oscillator? I think the base will need to be secured and the top pulled off. This is different from most of the OCXOs I have seen. I'm somewhat tempted to try putting the bottom in the vice, heating the whole sea

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Bob Camp
Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Miller Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:49 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans Hi Bob, Did you

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Miller
e time and frequency measurement'" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans Hi Standard approach: 1) Secure the "top" of the part (the cover) in a vise. You need something between the cover and metal jaws to keep it fro

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-26 Thread Bob Camp
sage- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Demian Martin Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:47 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans Bob: Perhaps you can describe how to do this. I can't see a way t

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Miller
; Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans How about using a commercial type Hot Plate. I have one that can be set to temp. I use it for cleaning SMD devices off PC boards. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Demian

Re: [time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Richard W. Solomon
How about using a commercial type Hot Plate. I have one that can be set to temp. I use it for cleaning SMD devices off PC boards. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: Demian Martin >Sent: Jul 25, 2012 3:47 PM >To: time-nuts@febo.com >Subject: [time-nuts] 5MHz o

[time-nuts] 5MHz ocxo- Opening Solder sealed cans

2012-07-25 Thread Demian Martin
Bob: Perhaps you can describe how to do this. I can't see a way that would not make a huge mess (big torch) or not ever get there (big soldering iron). I would really like to be able to get inside of some of these without making them all into trash. Demian