Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Stewart Bryant
... and running it to a sound card (oscillator gps disciplined) How did you achieve this? Thanks Stewart ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, I'm also interested in how-to. At the moment I think it is a hack: there is no sound card AFAIK that accepts a reference input. I have recently bought an Acqiris/Agilent DP105/U1067A 150MHz 500Ms/s digitizer PCI card that accepts an external 10MHz as a reference for the sampling process. On

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I think a number of higher-end sound cards accept a word clock or world clock (I've seen it both ways) that's intended to allow syncing to an external source. The challenge I've seen is that the frequency (either in the 12 or 24 MHz range) is one that's not simple to synthesize precisely

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/6/12 7:51 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, I'm also interested in how-to. At the moment I think it is a hack: there is no sound card AFAIK that accepts a reference input. I have recently bought an Acqiris/Agilent DP105/U1067A 150MHz 500Ms/s digitizer PCI card that accepts an external 10MHz as

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/6/12 7:51 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, I'm also interested in how-to. At the moment I think it is a hack: there is no sound card AFAIK that accepts a reference input. I have recently bought an Acqiris/Agilent DP105/U1067A 150MHz 500Ms/s digitizer PCI card that accepts an external 10MHz as

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, found it: the RME HDSPe RayDAT PCIe audio card has this reference but with the optional extension card (of course). It is $950 for the card + the expansion card for the world clock... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 7/6/12 7:51 AM, Azelio Boriani

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Mark Spencer
Word clock generators appear to exist that will accept standard external reference frequencies. One of the vendors also sells a stand alone 10 MHz rubidium reference for driving their word clock generator. Sent from my iPod On 2012-07-06, at 8:09 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Hal Murray
I think a number of higher-end sound cards accept a word clock or world clock (I've seen it both ways) that's intended to allow syncing to an external source. The challenge I've seen is that the frequency (either in the 12 or 24 MHz range) is one that's not simple to synthesize precisely

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't know if they've been discontinued, but a number of the M-Audio cards had word clock inputs as well. They are/were pretty widely available on eBay. John On 7/6/2012 11:24 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: OK, found it: the RME HDSPe RayDAT PCIe audio card has this reference but with the

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Heinzmann, Stefan (ALC NetworX GmbH)
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von John Ackermann N8UR Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2012 16:58 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question I think a number of higher-end sound cards accept a word clock

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Bill Dailey
Removed the oscillator and send it the required freq (24.576MHz) that is disciplined to 10MHz. Put an sma connector next to the card in the little cover on the pci slot. Currently using my ds345 but am getting a Valon Synthesizer board with a divider. Tried ve1alq but the dividers aren't

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, I'll take a look at my cheap audio cards searching for the oscillator. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote: Removed the oscillator and send it the required freq (24.576MHz) that is disciplined to 10MHz. Put an sma connector next to the card in the little

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/06/2012 04:58 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: I think a number of higher-end sound cards accept a word clock or world clock (I've seen it both ways) that's intended to allow syncing to an external source. The challenge I've seen is that the frequency (either in the 12 or 24 MHz range) is

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/06/2012 05:09 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 7/6/12 7:51 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, I'm also interested in how-to. At the moment I think it is a hack: there is no sound card AFAIK that accepts a reference input. I have recently bought an Acqiris/Agilent DP105/U1067A 150MHz 500Ms/s digitizer

[time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-04 Thread Bill Dailey
I am measuring a 10MHz OCXO. I am wondering about my methods and their effect of Allan Deviation. SETUP: I am running the signal into my radio (gps disciplined) and taking the resulting audio and running it to a sound card (oscillator gps disciplined) then looking at the result in Spectrum

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-04 Thread Azelio Boriani
I think that no one can say anything on that setup. Anyway, try this: run the GPSDO 10MHz into the radio and take the measurements. Then run your signal and let us know the difference. Usually running the reference against itself (if possible) gives the noise floor of the measurement setup... if

Re: [time-nuts] Allan Deviation question

2012-07-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bill, On 07/04/2012 10:23 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: I am measuring a 10MHz OCXO. I am wondering about my methods and their effect of Allan Deviation. SETUP: I am running the signal into my radio (gps disciplined) and taking the resulting audio and running it to a sound card (oscillator gps