Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:14:55 +0200 Magnus Danielson wrote: > Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Yes, you can find them at http://time.kinali.ch/phase_data/luciano/ Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, All I have seen so far is an ADEV plot, and that is not a good tool to estimate such systematics in. I would like to see the phase & frequency data, it would probably be better for this type of diagnostics. Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Cheers, Magnus On 06/14/2018 0

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I’d say both have a “something” with a period of roughly 18 to 20 hours in their data runs. Bob > On Jun 14, 2018, at 4:54 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 > wrote: > >> Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each >> other! > > I h

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 wrote: > Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each > other! I had a look at Luciano's data and it's probably safe to say, that the instability of the super-5065 would be the limit. The unmodified 5065 is incredibly stable (once you re

[time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-13 Thread cdelect
Saw the plot in the June 12 post. Pretty much limited by the 3816 up to 10K Seconds. Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each other! Cheers, Corby ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Attila Kinali writes: > Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. > Can you send it as something more standard? Okular opens the file without problems. MuPDF should do the same, but I can't test it at the moment. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neur

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
Ciao Luciano, On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:05:24 +0200 "tim...@timeok.it" wrote: >Here a ten days simultaneously run of the A and B version compared with my > HP Z3816A GPSDO. Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. Can you send it as something more

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
1 to 100 sec that I > had never had the chance to see for lack of an instrument as your A7. > ciao, > Luciano > > > Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > A time-nuts@febo.com > Cc > Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:46:50 +0200 > Oggetto Re: [ti

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread tim...@timeok.it
100 sec that I had never had the chance to see for lack of an instrument as your A7. ciao, Luciano Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com A time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:46:50 +0200 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 This is a

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
rify that these measures have the objective of verifying the > > medium / long term stability and not the short term stability of the Super > > version I agree it is improved.. > > Luciano > > > > > > Da "Bob kb8tq" kb...@n1k.org > > A "Lucian

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread tim...@timeok.it
c Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:02:34 -0400 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Hi Ok, so this question should not come as a great surprise: Does one of the 5065’s have about 3X the temperature sensitivity of the other? ( or pressure or humidity ). Bob > O

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
the A and B version compared with my > HP Z3816A GPSDO. > Luciano > > > Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > A kb...@n1k.org > Cc "time-nuts" time-nuts@febo.com > Data Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:18:27 +0200 > Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] R

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-06 Thread Bob kb8tq
le can compare your setting to there’s does need to be part of the process. Bob > > > > Da "Bob kb8tq" kb...@n1k.org > A "Luciano Paramithiotti" tim...@timeok.it,"Discussion of precise time and > frequency measurement" time-nuts@feb

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:05:34 -0400 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Hi It is pretty well known that without “help” ( beyond the filter stuff on the super) the 5065 has fairly poor temperature stability and somewhat variable response to pressure and humidity. Taking two samples

[time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread cdelect
Attila, I will send you some raw data. Attached is a combined plot of a recent successful filter installation. Only 20 to 25% of units will be improved with the filter mod. Two things to look for. 1- The short term stability at 1 Sec (Allan Deviation) should drop from the 2X10-12th range down

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
have everyone's opinion. > Regards, > Luciano > > > Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com > Cc > Data Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:11:50 +0200 > Oggetto [t

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread tim...@timeok.it
x27;s opinion. Regards, Luciano Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:11:50 +0200 Oggetto [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Hoi zäme! Would one (

[time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-04 Thread Attila Kinali
Hoi zäme! Would one (preferably multiple) of the owners of a super-5065 be so kind and share the raw phase data of an super-5065 against a stable reference with me? The longer the data trace, the better. Thanks in advance! Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities tha