Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bob Camp wrote: Hi Good point, pretty much everything I worry about is timing to or from an external pin. Once it's inside it's all clocked to the global clock(s). If you look at the modern families, you no longer have only clocking on both edges... but even higher rates. The I/O-block

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi David, Thanks for the detailed comments. I understand better how the two boards differ now. You did a fine job. And thanks for making it available to the group, with good documentation and all. One comment in the use of microcontrollers -- a reason I (and many others)

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Can we all come live at your house and play with your toys? Bob On Mar 20, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi David, Thanks for the detailed comments. I understand better how the two boards differ now. You did a fine job. And thanks for making it

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bob Camp wrote: Hi Can we all come live at your house and play with your toys? That would cause some troubles with logistics, like places to sleep. ;) Tom has far more toys than me. I might have a few things he doesn't have, but other than that he outperforms me in most fields. So far,

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I have a tent Somehow I suspect that commuting to work on a daily basis just might be a little difficult. Bob On Mar 20, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Bob Camp wrote: Hi Can we all come live at your house and play with your toys? That would cause some troubles

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Hal Murray
When you run a design on a CPLD (or a FPGA) the design tool optimizes cute things like fanout and timing. You can also have it optimize delay to circuit nodes. That allows you to come up with outputs that have a specific delay relationship. From my experience, specific delay relationship

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I've had pretty good luck with Quartus setting up delay relationships and optimizing for them. You are correct that you do get speed variations from the slow model to the fast model. Getting it all to work out is usually a two step process. Find the delay clusters and then shove the

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bob Camp wrote: Hi I've had pretty good luck with Quartus setting up delay relationships and optimizing for them. You are correct that you do get speed variations from the slow model to the fast model. Getting it all to work out is usually a two step process. Find the delay clusters and then

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Good point, pretty much everything I worry about is timing to or from an external pin. Once it's inside it's all clocked to the global clock(s). Bob On Mar 20, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Bob Camp wrote: Hi I've had pretty good luck with Quartus setting up delay

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
David, Did you see the TAPR TADD board(s) before you started your divider project? I'm curious what features (or missing features) led you to your board design. Thanks, /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-19 Thread David C. Partridge
Partridge Email:david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: 19 March 2010 21:33 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM Tom, I designed the original version of the board in 2008. I think the TADD2 came along a few months after I did the first batch of boards. If I remember

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Camp
, March 19, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM Tom, I designed the original version of the board in 2008. I think the TADD2 came along a few months after I did the first batch of boards. If I remember correctly, John Ackermann expressed some interest at the time

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic and BOM

2010-03-18 Thread David C. Partridge
Bill, just re-join the end of the names that have been split to the next line of the post. Again sent to the list 'cos your ISP still refuses email from me. Apologies to the list Regards, David Partridge Email:david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk -Original Message- From: mason...@wcc.net