Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kirkby writes: >Brooke Clarke wrote: >> Hi David: >> >> It's so easy to feed the PRS10 a 1 PPS from GPS so I don't understand >> your comment "I don't have anything locked to GPS yet, but even when I >> do, it is not always going to be that convenient for me

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Van Baak wrote: A PRS10, for example, may have 100x or better accuracy than a typical 10811. Yet a 10811 can easily have 2x to 10x better short-term stability than a PRS10. You can indirectly measure this by seeing which reference, internal or external, gives the smallest standard deviation for

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Hi Tom, > I was aware of the accuracy of the timebase for TI measurements is not > that critical, and TI measurements were my reason for buying the 5370B > rather than a normal frequency counter. > > However, the fact remains the 5370B is a better *frequency* counter than > any others I have,

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread David Kirkby
Tom Van Baak wrote: That's what I was intending doing, although the adjustment as far courser than ideal on a counter with 11 digits. Many of us use HP 5370A/B's as *time interval* counters; typically to precisely compare two 1 PPS sources. In this case the 25 ps rms single-shot resolution of the

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread David Kirkby
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi David: It's so easy to feed the PRS10 a 1 PPS from GPS so I don't understand your comment "I don't have anything locked to GPS yet, but even when I do, it is not always going to be that convenient for me" Hi Brooke, I will not be able to get a GPS signal where the test-equ

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread Tom Van Baak
> That's what I was intending doing, although the adjustment as far > courser than ideal on a counter with 11 digits. Many of us use HP 5370A/B's as *time interval* counters; typically to precisely compare two 1 PPS sources. In this case the 25 ps rms single-shot resolution of the counter is the

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi David: It's so easy to feed the PRS10 a 1 PPS from GPS so I don't understand your comment "I don't have anything locked to GPS yet, but even when I do, it is not always going to be that convenient for me" Have Fun, Brooke -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~br

Re: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread David Kirkby
John Miles wrote: Correct, the only adjustment on the 5370B is on the 10811 itself. Cheers. I thought that was the case, but confirmation is never a bad thing. The best way to set it is to note the deviation after a long warmup with the counter covers in place, then take everything apart and adjus

RE: [time-nuts] Fine frequency adjustment in 5370B

2005-05-15 Thread John Miles
Correct, the only adjustment on the 5370B is on the 10811 itself. The best way to set it is to note the deviation after a long warmup with the counter covers in place, then take everything apart and adjust the 10811 to remove the same amount of deviation. (If you set it to 10.0 MHz with t