[time-nuts] Re: DIY Low offset Phase Noise Analyzer (Erik, Kaashoek)

2022-07-11 Thread Alex Pummer via time-nuts
yes there are much better signal generators out there, that frequency doubler tuning circuit is for religious people only -- you need to be able to believe, that it could work 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 7/11/2022 12:24 PM, Dave B via time-nuts wrote: On 11/07/2022 08:30, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.co

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Alex Pummer via time-nuts
Yes, we did, and learned, that the device -- the ublox6 --  forgets the the program very fast, thus we added one arduino, which loads the program into the ublox at every new turn on. By using low output frequency -- 10kHz -- the jitter is low, at higher output frequency the jitter is getting

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors

2022-04-09 Thread Alex Pummer
Noise in Physical Systems Including 1,f Noise, Biological Systems and Membranes : 10th International Conference, August 21-25, 1989, Budapest, Hungary 1990 https://www.google.com/books/edition/Noise_in_Physical_Systems/WyVbzgEACAAJ?hl=en On 4/9/2022 11:35 AM, Lux, Jim wrote: On 4/9/22 10:03 A

[time-nuts] Re: Looking for a new GNSS-receiver for a diciplined oscillator - Which one to buy?

2022-03-12 Thread Alex Pummer
Hi Ulf, do not give up so simple, often it could be repaired, what kind of GPS receiver do you have? 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 3/11/2022 4:56 AM, Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts wrote: Greetings forum, Since my GPS-receiver ceased operation recently, I need to purchasea new one. Please suggest a suitable

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Alex Pummer
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ? Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:57:49 -0800 From: Alex Pummer To: Attila Kinali Hi Attila, actually there are some repeaters, which do not generate their own carrier, but just receive and amplifying re

[time-nuts] Re: Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2021-03-14 Thread Alex Pummer
it is relative problem-less to rebroadcast withe orthogonal polarization relative to the original vertical polarized signal and using a loop, not higher than one meter above ground -- magnetic coupling only...'  -- around your house, -- don't forget to  change the polarization of the antenna th

Re: [time-nuts] Old Crystal.

2021-03-01 Thread Alex Pummer
Using the DG8SAQ Vector Network Analyzer to identify an unknown component https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao653tz1kVE actually it has a special program made for analyzing crystals Greetings and 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 3/1/2021 12:32 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi, On 2021-03-01 01:23, Attila K

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Alex Pummer
at the time I grew up in Eastern Europe -- "communist time" -- they kept he clocks using the line frequency as reference -- by counting the periods during the day and week and for longer time for equal time interval the "provided" equal number of line frequency periods, as longer the time inter

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse Clocks -

2020-12-26 Thread Alex Pummer
actually you could transmit and receive on the same frequency if you take care that they have different polarization. A small transmit loop around -- vertical axis -- the building and very low power  and receive the wwvb normally with the ferrite roads  with horizontal axis, the transmission ou

Re: [time-nuts] PDIP package 100 MHz decade dividers

2020-07-11 Thread Alex Pummer
Hi Perrier https://www.y-ic.es/datasheet/3b/74F569SC.pdf   will work 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 7/11/2020 3:00 PM, Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote: Learned List, On previous posts I was looking for a PDIP package 100 MHz decade divider. Reading just the front of the data sheet I thought that the 74LS1

Re: [time-nuts] low power divide by 5

2020-07-01 Thread Alex Pummer
There was once upon the time a very good data/application-book from Fairchild for TTL logic, they published many different modulo frequency dividers with 50% duty-cycle for the "9316" which is the functional equivalent grandfather  for 74161 and therefore for the AC161 to. For frequency division

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment

2020-04-11 Thread Alex Pummer
Taka, it was possible, to do without computer, although the computer is a very big help particularly for routine works, but it is possible not just trouble shoot but design, very complicated circuits to, and there are out there areas where computers still do not help today, Bob Peasa even cach

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisation of crystal oscillators

2020-03-01 Thread Alex Pummer
don't forget the  oscillator is one amplifier with infinite gain on his own frequency 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 3/1/2020 2:46 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 3/1/2020 2:28 PM, John Moran, Scawby Design wrote: My apologies if this is slightly off-topic, but it does concern crystal oscillators

Re: [time-nuts] Quartz crystall and beyond

2020-02-29 Thread Alex Pummer
IMPROVING THE FREQUENCY STABILITY OF MICROWAVE OSCILLATORS BY UTILIZING THE TEMPERATURE COMPENSATED DIFFERENCE FREQUENCY OF A DUAL-MODE SAPPHIRE LOADED CAVITY RESONATOR https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUiqr58Fpe2kYAigIPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQD

Re: [time-nuts] decimation versus decimation

2020-02-25 Thread Alex Pummer via time-nuts
in original -- Latin -- it means;  take every tenth 73 KJ6UHN  Alex On 2/25/2020 7:15 AM, Bob kb8tq via time-nuts wrote: Hi In the common vernacular “decimation” does indeed mean “just throw the rest away”. You can find papers where that *is* what’s being done with samples and that term is us

Re: [time-nuts] Odd-order multiplication of CMOS-output OCXO

2020-01-19 Thread Alex Pummer
I got my  German edition of T+S [16] for $120.- shipped to California, but don't be surprised some of the medicament's made in Europe costing 50 times more here. 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 1/19/2020 5:30 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Gerhard wrote: The idea was just to measure 1/f noise on my AF and R

Re: [time-nuts] Odd-order multiplication of CMOS-output OCXO

2020-01-19 Thread Alex Pummer
the only problem with that CMOS  freq. multiplying circuit's that the threshold of the inputs  has a thermal noise component = jitter [phase noise] 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 1/19/2020 11:31 AM, Mark Haun wrote: Hi Jim, On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:35:42 -0800 jimlux wrote: On 1/19/20 9:29 AM, Mark Haun w

Re: [time-nuts] Norton amplifiers

2020-01-13 Thread Alex Pummer
there was one "zwischen basis-Schaltung" which has good noise properties basically the basis and the emitter of a bipolar transistor is connected to the two ends of a transformer's secondary winding , a tap on said winding is grounded. Ulrich Rohde may could tell more about it, I have seen arti

Re: [time-nuts] 15 to 10 MHz

2019-10-19 Thread Alex Pummer
Hi Perrier, I would like to see that circuit -- divide by 1.5 -- also, thank you in advance Alex 73 KJ6UHN On 9/19/2019 5:03 AM, B Riches via time-nuts wrote: Hi Perrier, I would appreciate the circuit.  Thank you. 73, Bill, WA2DVUCape May On Wednesday, September 18, 2019, 10:11:02

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Alex Pummer
well, you have a point, the coax cable if it is ideal it will work as somebody described earlier in that treed, but unfortunately life is real, and therefore despite that the E and H field is mostly "inside of the cable", but due to the cables loss particularly because braid has resistance ther

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801 Power Supply Schematic

2019-04-24 Thread Alex Pummer
Hi Richard, may I ask you to send to me that Schematic? thank you in advance 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 4/24/2019 7:46 AM, RICHARD GOLDING via time-nuts wrote: Many thanks to those who took the trouble to send me schematics of the Z3801a PSU. I'm pleased to report that, using, the schematic, I was a

Re: [time-nuts] multimeter

2019-03-23 Thread Alex Pummer
yes he is wright, particularly your bird will grew out before the reading settles to zero at zero DC current measurement condition, I contacted Fluke they promised to send a special box for sending the instrument to them, it was in 2017, but the box did not arrived yet, One would expect a bit b

Re: [time-nuts] Synthesized Signal Generator query

2019-03-07 Thread Alex Pummer
that is a relative low noise synthesizer Programmed Test Sources PTS 160 Frequency Synthesizer 73 Alex On 3/7/2019 11:04 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 3/7/2019 8:56 AM, Didier Juges wrote: The king of low close-in noise are the HP8662 (990MHz) and HP8663 (2GHz?) by about 20d

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-25 Thread Alex Pummer
I do not know, if the brake down voltage decreases if the electrolyte capacitor is used well bellow the original rated voltage, but I know from experience, that if you cautiously and slowly increase the voltage across the capacitor it will work at higher than the rated voltage, but with reduced

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO PLL gains?

2019-02-01 Thread Alex Pummer
Hi Anders look that https://www.analog.com/media/ru/training-seminars/tutorials/MT-086.pdf 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 2/1/2019 10:11 AM, Anders Wallin wrote: Hi all, is there are rule-of-thumb or simple paper/presentation of how to choose PLL-gains? I have a phase-detector that gives out a slope of

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-05 Thread Alex Pummer
There is a problem with most pre-amplifiers and also particularly with anything up font of the sampling; to get  good data the amplitude of the sampled signal has to have relative high levels, comparable to microphone output level -- up to 50mV -- if one wanted to use the sound cart input. Addi

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-03 Thread Alex Pummer
that address is incorrect:  Website: www.EversetClocks.com Alex On 12/3/2018 6:20 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote: Hi All There is a 60 Khz frequency standard operating in the UK So do the two signals interfere with each other? Paul -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun.

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz

2018-09-30 Thread Alex Pummer
and what wold happen if you divide the 10MHz by 10 -- with any simple counter chip -- and injection lock a 16MHz crystal oscillator with that 1MHz, since the jitter is not critical of course it does not hurt if you make the 1MHz pulses narrow, you could use the micro-controller's own oscil

Re: [time-nuts] wwvb antenna transmission Well harder then I might think.

2018-09-06 Thread Alex Pummer
by making a loop around the territory, on which you would like to receive the signal, inside of that loop you will have a very decent reception without using to high transmit power  a 100' x 200' area could be covered with 100mW,  since the wave length of the used low frequencies is multiple of